Topic: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" - page 5. (Read 6316 times)

Haha, you cant do shit. Did you succeed in breaking Monero?

yeah, have you ever managed to sustain a meaningful relationship with another human being? your overall attitude conveys otherwise.

i'd refute you're obvious trolling but it'd just devolve into mindless FUD, which is probably your only real goal here. the final point here is that the DGC network itself was never rigged, block rewards have always been fair and by public consensus. say what you want about Baritus but DGC is clean.

Ahmed Bodi?

No, coins that lose their communities and have nobody running the network die. Right now DGC is very much alive, quiet, but alive. We still have plenty of people mining, and we've always kept a higher position on Cryptsy and BTC38, which is saying something for a coin that hasn't been as 'successfully manipulated' as coins like DRK.

I got the 70 nodes figure from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/#!network (click on 'Geo-location'), according to this there are more people running DGC than prominent pump-n-dump coins. As of right now:

130 DGC clients
36 DRK/DASH
54 Viacoin
51 Paycoin
83 BitBay
203 Blackcoin

Now if I'm misinterpreting this data someone please let me know, but looks to me like we're doing just fine.


I don't want to base arguments on emotion alone but there's is a ton of negativity oozing from that post; I have no problem with DGC where it is, an honest, reliable market does not skyrocket, it is stable and predictable. DGC at a 100k market cap is absolutely fine, it allows anyone to buy in at an honest price point, which increases distribution and strengthens the economy. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if we went lower, seeing as only 'little guys' make up the market currently. I'd imagine the coffers of the community run up to a market cap of about 30-40k or so. The rest of the market cap is probably coming from china.

If you want to pump the coin, we'd need to consolidate all our holdings, keep them in a trusted escrow address, then contact a whale. I've actually considered this before but the distribution has just been too good over time, so oh shit, i guess we're stuck being honest. fuck us, right?? I'll repeat, there's nothing wrong with where we are now so long as people don't actually abandon the coin. If you're not happy with it, dump your 200k, I guarantee you someone will be there to buy it. Look at coins like WhiteCoin and LitecoinDark. They're languishing around at 100 satoshi levels. That's where DGC would have to go for any whales interested in accumulating a majority of the supply. (XWC is actually looking kinda frothy after having spent about a year sitting at 100 sats, might be time to buy in)

Frankly I'd prefer it if we'd increase the mint rate along with user adoption, to inhibit manipulation attempts. Seeing as we're already a very friendly coin, might as well go the extra mile.. just my opinion.

I will say that our market cap probably isn't going to swell anytime soon, but if we do dip below 50k there will be buyers waiting. Saying DGC is dead is just hasty and somewhat ignorant. We're young and there's plenty of time for things to move.

Also, as far as I'm concerned about baritus, *assuming* he did maliciously dump his PERSONAL holdings of 560k on the market in an effort to exit (march 8th on cryptsy if you want to look yourself), DGC was already on a strong downward trend, and every other coin similar to our stature has followed the same fate. I just get the feeling people attack him for their own lack of understanding of how these markets work. I lost out on DGC to, I also lost out on BTC buying too early. Blaming baritus for DGC's 'death' is short-sighted and overly dramatic, network integrity and coin price are separate matters. Then again I shouldn't really expect anything else out of Bitcointalk. If you'll do me the favor, I really don't want to talk about or defend the guy, only on the potential behind DGC which I feel still exists.

who took to ddos? I'm not aware of anyone myself?

Ahmed

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest

I think cosmo thought that we don't want to be the #1 altcoin with hundreds of tricks, market manipulations,etc. but I think we should be in top10 with clean conscience.
Yeah, Baritus screwed lot of things, but he wasn't the main reason. Look at the continually developed coins from 2013...everyone is "dying".

Sorry, but "we don't want to go DRK way" is absolute bullshit

You, me and everyone else involved with DGC in any way, and specially by holding it, would kill for going DRK way. Going DRK way is all that matters in this industry and it's the single way for coin to prospect and be in people's minds with 1000+ other coins around. Volume, pumps, volume, more pumps, volume, price rise is the only way for coins to get any following, do you think so many mainstream companies would adapt Bitcoin if it was still 5$ a piece? It would my ass, nobody but oldtimers from that pweiod would know about it and there would be no marketing purposes of adapting it.

"We're doing it our own way silently in the background" is just a nothing marketing line translating to we're where we are and don't have idea what to do to go up from here. I understand that, I don't have idea too. DGC had it's chance being in first group of alt revolution but unfortunately Baritus screwed it a lot when it mattered most and some significant stuff is required to bring it back to the spotlight. It's shame, really shame, it's name only should make it to top 10 alts out there.

That not even an achievement. What i have seen in all my time is that coins with no active development and advancement die. coins without purpose die. Coins without direction die.

DGC is dying because it has 70 nodes. When i mined it along with worldcoin and the rest from that period, they had THOUSANDS of nodes. Interest is fading and once interest in an existing coin fades beyond a point....it dies.

Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

cosmoo....starting from page 10 of the altcoin section.....i give you reality. And unless something happens sonn, DGc will average page 32 of the alt section

Thanks for clearing that up. "Eat us alive" didn't make sense to me

no credible institution is going to take a coin such as DRK seriously, since it's already been pumped and hyped, having the credibility squeezed out of it again and agian. By keeping DGC purely a grassroots crypto it is left open to interpretation. We can effectively go wherever we want.


That's what people always say, yet here we are, two years later with over 70 active nodes across the globe. If by aggressive development you mean tacking on gimmick after gimmick in hopes of attracting dumb money.. that's stupid. The less you screw with a sound system the less you're likely to break it.

Not saying we should ignore DGC entirely, but real innovation occurs on its own, since this is an open source environment I think we're fine as we are. Whenever a real advancement in crypto is found (not gimmicks like InstantX or whateverthehell) then we can integrate that into DGC. All we need to worry about is keeping our network healthy and clean of fraud.

Now, aggressive PR, that's something else entirely. DGC needs wayyyy more PR than it currently has. Ya'll can yell at me for being lazy about that, cuz I am.

lack of aggressive development in this environment is suicide

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "eat us alive over time" ?

We do contact those devs, when we switched to multi-algo hashing Ahmed received insight from 8bitcoder, who was the original developer of multiple algorithm hashing through his creation Myraidcoin. Most devs want to run their own coin, DGC just tries to be fair and friendly so that they'll be inclined to help us should we want to implement their technology. There's no need to have a team of devs (though it would be nice to have more names associated with DGC), you can't really 'force' innovation. This is all open-source, so we just try to remain updated with the best practices developed in crypto.

I'd never want DarkCoin level 'development' happening on DGC, that kind of hype and attention-grabbing will just eat us alive over time. I enjoy DGC as it is, cool and quiet, reliably minding its own business in the background. You attract better people that way.

I understand what you're saying though. It would build credibility and trust (of which DGC is deserving) the more trusted dev's names are 'branded' on the coin. But that being said, a 'team' is kind of misleading, all devs who work open source are already a team

In my opinion the whole team make excellent work except the communication.
Somebody wrote about adopt services. We made a list from that, it's much longer than 90% of coins. It's okay but who knows about this list?
The devs working on lots of things, but nobody knows about it. Make some announcements!
Another problem is the time of the projects. We haven't years for some progress in this cryptoworld.

Kenel, You as personally could make contact with reasonable guys(owner of services, exchanges, developers of other coins for cooperate). The fact we are here now is a positive feedback, so You musn't quit.



And at last time to BitcoinEXpress: Forget the past, we haven't any contact with baritus, we don't care what he did with his personal stash. The CryptoAve project was his too. After he leaved and our foundation started to work the price was stabilized and we cleared up his mess.
"Where are all the Baritus fanboys now?" - We don't know, I didn't see a single one for a year. 

There are about 1000 "devs" , 150 "developers" and 20 "innovative developers". DGC is based on pretty recent code. I'd encourage you to contact some of the guys in the "20" group and join forces.

Appreciate the input.

DGC, price wise, may not being doing as good as it should, but the community and our developers are doing better than ever.

Not sure what you should do but it's shame to see DGC not doing as good as it should. For me, it still has, and always will have, the best name of all cryptos out there, including Bitcoin. I thought changing algorithm would help but it looks it wasn't caught by people too.

It's hard to compete in the crazy world off all these coins and in the middle of this brutal bear market, guess Baritus actions did some harm too. Anyway, I still have 200k of DGC from many moons ago that nobody will get cheap from me, and hope it will get it's place under the sun of successful coins at some time.

Anyway, I think you should emphasize the coin's top name bit more, it's the biggest selling point for DGC. Than, it needs to come back to people's minds again and for that you'd need some good news and lot of BTC to pump and support it's price. Pump is not some perfect fundamental stuff but it does bring coin to the spotlight, there is nothing really DOGE is better than DGC in except having a volume on exchange and price level supported by lot of bids. DGC unfortunately lost that momo long time ago and doesn't have any big guys supporting it.

I asked for it!

Want it all out in the open.

Why all the hating on Kenel?

I haven't been following DGC very closely but from what I've seen he's done his best.

Whatever hate people have for baritus shouldn't reflect on the current president of DGCfoundation.

Cheers!