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Quote from: BADecker on December 27, 2016, 08:25:09 PM

Jerry Pournelle talks about China's orbital tests of the EMDrive as a bigger than Sputnik moment

Quote from: http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/jerry-pournelle-talks-about-chinas.html

Jerry Eugene Pournelle (born August 7, 1933) is an American science fiction writer, essayist and journalist who contributed for many years to the computer magazine Byte. Pournelle was an intellectual protégé of Russell Kirk and Stefan T. Possony. Pournelle wrote numerous publications with Possony, including The Strategy of Technology (1970). The Strategy has been used as a textbook at the United States Military Academy (West Point), the United States Air Force Academy (Colorado Springs), the Air War College, and the National War College.

Pournelle worked in the aerospace industry includes time he worked at Boeing in the late-1950s. While there, he worked on Project Thor, conceiving of "hypervelocity rod bundles", also known as "rods from God". He edited Project 75, a 1964 study of 1975 defense requirements. He worked in operations research at The Aerospace Corporation, and North American Rockwell Space Division, and was founding President of the Pepperdine Research Institute. In 1989, Pournelle, Max Hunter, and retired Army Lieutenant General Daniel O. Graham made a presentation to then Vice President Dan Quayle promoting development of the DC-X rocket.

Read more at http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/jerry-pournelle-talks-about-chinas.html.

[Note that properly designed, the EMdrive can propel things on earth, as well.]

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At this rate, the Chinese are ahead of the rest will master the very first space and distant planets. It is their task they perform.

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Quote from: CryptoCypherCoin on December 27, 2016, 08:27:07 PM

good work dude

To work and to think that we live like guinea pigs, this is too much.

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Quote from: talkinonnbtc on December 28, 2016, 04:11:02 AM

well i still dont think that earth is flat

So many followers of the ideas or thoughts on flat ground, making it a community of people in a large sect that is not clear why the idea promoted in society. But these people are incredibly actively defend the flat ground.

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Quote from: notbatman on October 22, 2015, 06:53:32 AM

OK not really but I've read the "rocket scientists" have been lying about how rockets work; I've learned that rocket engines don't actually work in a vacuum.

Of course you ask "but why would they lie, I don't understand". They lie because they're hiding the fact the Earth is flat and there is no space to travel to or in. We're inside a giant underwater terrarium and atmospheric life is an artificially created novelty.

Need proof? Differently shaped rocket nozzles produce varying degrees of thrust depending on atmospheric pressure.

And what will be the real proof of this plan? If you take balesticheskie missiles, they are designed for omelets in the atmosphere, and space rockets to the two types, one for the main vacuum and a carrier who brings into orbit. So they have a different purpose.

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well i still dont think that earth is flat

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Jerry Pournelle talks about China's orbital tests of the EMDrive as a bigger than Sputnik moment

Quote from: http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/jerry-pournelle-talks-about-chinas.html

Jerry Eugene Pournelle (born August 7, 1933) is an American science fiction writer, essayist and journalist who contributed for many years to the computer magazine Byte. Pournelle was an intellectual protégé of Russell Kirk and Stefan T. Possony. Pournelle wrote numerous publications with Possony, including The Strategy of Technology (1970). The Strategy has been used as a textbook at the United States Military Academy (West Point), the United States Air Force Academy (Colorado Springs), the Air War College, and the National War College.

Pournelle worked in the aerospace industry includes time he worked at Boeing in the late-1950s. While there, he worked on Project Thor, conceiving of "hypervelocity rod bundles", also known as "rods from God". He edited Project 75, a 1964 study of 1975 defense requirements. He worked in operations research at The Aerospace Corporation, and North American Rockwell Space Division, and was founding President of the Pepperdine Research Institute. In 1989, Pournelle, Max Hunter, and retired Army Lieutenant General Daniel O. Graham made a presentation to then Vice President Dan Quayle promoting development of the DC-X rocket.

Read more at http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/jerry-pournelle-talks-about-chinas.html.

[Note that properly designed, the EMdrive can propel things on earth, as well.]

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Quote from: eminem90 on December 26, 2016, 01:01:35 PM

From the point of view of economic expediency of the program "Space Shuttle" can hardly be called successful. Spaceships disposable proved to be much more economical than their seemingly more technologically advanced reusable counterparts. Yes, and flight safety to the "shuttles" in doubt.

Environmental disasters, overpopulation, wars and other crises have forced humanity with caution and be wary of experimentation and limit yourself to the home planet. Many now believe that the study and settlement of space can be by addressing some of the pressing problems in the world. As a result of space flights is significantly moved forward in comparison with the beginning of the century. Therefore, the price does not matter.

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From the point of view of economic expediency of the program "Space Shuttle" can hardly be called successful. Spaceships disposable proved to be much more economical than their seemingly more technologically advanced reusable counterparts. Yes, and flight safety to the "shuttles" in doubt.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 26, 2016, 03:27:50 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 04:04:17 PM

Private moon rovers may visit the Apollo 17 landing site

Quote from: http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site

The Apollo 17 landing site has been abandoned since the last lunar astronauts went home in 1972. Now the site could get its first visitor in 44 years, as private companies race to the moon in the Google Lunar Xprize competition. A German team known as the PartTimeScientists plans to send its rovers to the Apollo 17 landing site and examine the moon buggy left behind by astronauts Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt.

PartTimeScientists is the fourth team to book a flight to the moon. A rocket rideshare company called Spaceflight Inc. is handling the launch contract. Exactly which rocket it will ride on (and when) is still up in the air.

Read more at http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site.

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It seems to me that people do not knowingly repeat trips to the moon after the first glad. After all, there is even commercial interests, but all that it takes. And nobody says anything public. What is the problem.

The problem might be that we never went there. It seems there is a lot of evidence that the moon shots were faked.

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It is believed that the moon at all and that the artificial body may be that it is generally alien base. That's what people are frightened and flew there.

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During the Cold War, space was one of the arenas for the struggle between the Soviet Union and the United States. Geopolitical confrontation between the superpowers - the main stimulus in those years for the development of the space industry. On the implementation of the space program has been thrown a huge amount of resources. In particular, on the implementation of the "Apollo" project, whose main objective was landing a man on the moon, the US government has spent about twenty-five billion dollars. What will be the continuation of this confrontation will be offended if the huge opening.

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Quote from: ZlaiaZaia on December 25, 2016, 11:59:48 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 04:04:17 PM

Private moon rovers may visit the Apollo 17 landing site

Quote from: http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site

The Apollo 17 landing site has been abandoned since the last lunar astronauts went home in 1972. Now the site could get its first visitor in 44 years, as private companies race to the moon in the Google Lunar Xprize competition. A German team known as the PartTimeScientists plans to send its rovers to the Apollo 17 landing site and examine the moon buggy left behind by astronauts Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt.

PartTimeScientists is the fourth team to book a flight to the moon. A rocket rideshare company called Spaceflight Inc. is handling the launch contract. Exactly which rocket it will ride on (and when) is still up in the air.

Read more at http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site.

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It seems to me that people do not knowingly repeat trips to the moon after the first glad. After all, there is even commercial interests, but all that it takes. And nobody says anything public. What is the problem.

The problem might be that we never went there. It seems there is a lot of evidence that the moon shots were faked.

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Helium-3 mining might be a reason to keep going there is much more of it on the moon then on earth.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 04:04:17 PM

Private moon rovers may visit the Apollo 17 landing site

Quote from: http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site

The Apollo 17 landing site has been abandoned since the last lunar astronauts went home in 1972. Now the site could get its first visitor in 44 years, as private companies race to the moon in the Google Lunar Xprize competition. A German team known as the PartTimeScientists plans to send its rovers to the Apollo 17 landing site and examine the moon buggy left behind by astronauts Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt.

PartTimeScientists is the fourth team to book a flight to the moon. A rocket rideshare company called Spaceflight Inc. is handling the launch contract. Exactly which rocket it will ride on (and when) is still up in the air.

Read more at http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site.

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It seems to me that people do not knowingly repeat trips to the moon after the first glad. After all, there is even commercial interests, but all that it takes. And nobody says anything public. What is the problem.

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Private moon rovers may visit the Apollo 17 landing site

Quote from: http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site

The Apollo 17 landing site has been abandoned since the last lunar astronauts went home in 1972. Now the site could get its first visitor in 44 years, as private companies race to the moon in the Google Lunar Xprize competition. A German team known as the PartTimeScientists plans to send its rovers to the Apollo 17 landing site and examine the moon buggy left behind by astronauts Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt.

PartTimeScientists is the fourth team to book a flight to the moon. A rocket rideshare company called Spaceflight Inc. is handling the launch contract. Exactly which rocket it will ride on (and when) is still up in the air.

Read more at http://www.popsci.com/private-moon-rovers-may-visit-apollo-17-landing-site.

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Quote from: Jessica136 on December 22, 2016, 03:54:30 PM

Quote from: notbatman on October 22, 2015, 06:53:32 AM

OK not really but I've read the "rocket scientists" have been lying about how rockets work; I've learned that rocket engines don't actually work in a vacuum.

Of course you ask "but why would they lie, I don't understand". They lie because they're hiding the fact the Earth is flat and there is no space to travel to or in. We're inside a giant underwater terrarium and atmospheric life is an artificially created novelty.

Need proof? Differently shaped rocket nozzles produce varying degrees of thrust depending on atmospheric pressure.

To answer your question, I need to deeply research on rockets or else I should meet a scientist.

No, you don't need to do any deep research. You just need to do the experiment I proposed earlier in the thread (which has not yet been refuted):

Quote from: protokol on February 13, 2016, 06:56:16 PM

Quote from: notbatman on February 13, 2016, 06:33:12 PM

There seems to be an issue with rockets exploding or falling into the ocean.

Rockets sometimes do that, turns out it's not as easy as you might think to shoot a rocket into orbit. It would be far more suspicious if rockets bound for orbit had a 100% success rate.

Back to your original assertion, which was that rockets don't work in a vacuum. You're wrong.
You don't even need a vacuum chamber to test this, here's a simple experiment that you can do at home to prove conservation of momentum.

Put yourself in a state of low friction, for example sit in a chair with wheels or stand on a skateboard. Now, pick up a heavy object, and throw it away from you. You will move in the opposite way to the object. This is primary school level physics.

In this analogy, you are the rocket and the object you threw is the rocket fuel. Now, you might think that this only works because the object is pushing off the air or some such bullshit. Well then, why not try it with a much lighter object of the same volume, such as a balloon. You will see that if you throw an gas filled balloon in the same way, you will barely move at all.

Congratulations, you just proved a fundamental law of physics, and subsequently that rockets certainly can work in a vacuum!

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Quote from: notbatman on October 22, 2015, 06:53:32 AM

OK not really but I've read the "rocket scientists" have been lying about how rockets work; I've learned that rocket engines don't actually work in a vacuum.

Of course you ask "but why would they lie, I don't understand". They lie because they're hiding the fact the Earth is flat and there is no space to travel to or in. We're inside a giant underwater terrarium and atmospheric life is an artificially created novelty.

Need proof? Differently shaped rocket nozzles produce varying degrees of thrust depending on atmospheric pressure.

To answer your question, I need to deeply research on rockets or else I should meet a scientist.

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Quote from: crwth on December 22, 2016, 01:02:59 PM

Not everyone tells a lie but i think the government lie to protect the citizens from panic. Not everyone can handle something like am extra terrestrial beings or just plain old flat Earth.

I can understand them lying about aliens but a flat earth? I think we would all know its flat now for 5000 years if it indeed was flat.

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Not everyone tells a lie but i think the government lie to protect the citizens from panic. Not everyone can handle something like am extra terrestrial beings or just plain old flat Earth.

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China says tests of Propellentless EMDrive on Tiangong 2 space station were successful

Quote from: http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/china-says-tests-of-propellentless.html

Scientists with the China Academy of Space Technology claim NASA's results 're-confirm' what they'd already achieved, and have plans to implement it in satellites 'as quickly as possible.'

'The establishment of an experimental verification platform to complete the milli-level micro thrust measurement test, as well as several years of repeated experiments and investigations into corresponding interference factors, confirm that in this type of thruster, thrust exists.'

Cast is a subsidiary of the Chinese Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) and the manufacturer of Dong Fang Hong satellites.

According to Li Feng, chief designer of Cast's communication satellite division, the team has built a prototype that so far generates just a few millinewtons of thrust, IBTimes UK reports.

A chinese language paper posted the successful chinese tests of the Emdrive

Successful propellentless Emdrive is tests in microgravity in space would be conclusive and definitive.

Read more and click the links at http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/china-says-tests-of-propellentless.html.

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