that definitely needs clarifying...
if he offers 40% and the offer is accepted.. the bet is won?...
i am under the assumption.. all obligations must be paid in full
Topic: I'm giving 100% ROI away to anyone who thinks pirate is a fraud - page 30. (Read 102982 times)
August 22, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
August 22, 2012, 12:39:59 PM
Post in this thread how much you're committing and I will double that amount you commit (maximum of 10,000BTC in bets allowed in this thread total) if Pirate does not pay out in 3 weeks as he described in his thread.
You need to make an important clarification:
Who wins In the event that 10%, 50% or 90% of the full amount owed by BS&T is refunded?
Bump. I want in, but this NEEDS to be clarified.
This is difficult to clarify, but I'll do my best in good faith:
If he owes 100% and only pays back 90% without agreement to investors, -that- is fraud and a failure to pay back. I would obviously lose the bet.
If he owes 100% and only pays back 90% but the investors agreed to it, -that- is the agreement and therefor he has paid it back. I would win the bet.
If he owes 100% and pays back 100%, I would win the bet.
If he owes 100% and does not pay anything anything back, I would lose the bet.
I'm trying my best to be smart about my clarifications, but if you need any more clarification, please ask and give examples so I can better explain. This is all on good faith of course, I don't want to get into legal arguments "But you said if he paid back on 12oclock and that was EST not KST" and other bullshit. This is about whether he is a scammer/ponzi or not, not about whether you can cheat the system for a cheap profit.
August 22, 2012, 12:38:48 PM
As per my OP, I reserve the right to lock my thread temporarily at anytime and reopen as conditions change. I will be locking the thread from additional bets within the hour.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I understand the absolute necessity of locking the thread from additional bets; however, it would be nice if there were some thread to officially follow the default or lack thereof by Pirate. I realize that that type of thread would likely quickly devolve into the same baseless accusations that this bet seeks to punish. That said, where should we turn for official news on this bet once this thread is locked?
Check the van/pirate bet thread, the terms are a bit different though(either he repays everything due or he defaults, no % nonsense). Also the announcement board in my sig will be updated with any important information.
August 22, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
can i make
wager on what little reputation i have?
wager on what little reputation i have?
August 22, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
1BoXaDDqwJMCPP3B4dbVeJNPwD3XV16233
5btc
I am completely confused about all of this, but hell, I want to be in on the action. Thanks for making the forums that much more exciting Matthew.
5btc
I am completely confused about all of this, but hell, I want to be in on the action. Thanks for making the forums that much more exciting Matthew.
August 22, 2012, 12:30:47 PM
As per my OP, I reserve the right to lock my thread temporarily at anytime and reopen as conditions change. I will be locking the thread from additional bets within the hour.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I understand the absolute necessity of locking the thread from additional bets; however, it would be nice if there were some thread to officially follow the default or lack thereof by Pirate. I realize that that type of thread would likely quickly devolve into the same baseless accusations that this bet seeks to punish. That said, where should we turn for official news on this bet once this thread is locked?
Check the van/pirate bet thread, the terms are a bit different though(either he repays everything due or he defaults, no % nonsense). Also the announcement board in my sig will be updated with any important information.
August 22, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
13gXf8aMSyd1NPBXK2oR7CJk3j8w8xmzVc
250 BTC
Upping my bet from earlier from 100 BTC to 250BTC total
250 BTC
Upping my bet from earlier from 100 BTC to 250BTC total
August 22, 2012, 12:26:56 PM
As per my OP, I reserve the right to lock my thread temporarily at anytime and reopen as conditions change. I will be locking the thread from additional bets within the hour.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I understand the absolute necessity of locking the thread from additional bets; however, it would be nice if there were some thread to officially follow the default or lack thereof by Pirate. I realize that that type of thread would likely quickly devolve into the same baseless accusations that this bet seeks to punish. That said, where should we turn for official news on this bet once this thread is locked?
August 22, 2012, 12:22:42 PM
Increasing to 65 BTC, if I may do so. 137kcYJSmoEzhVoMMXZs6SdDLw8Q6wRudp (same address)
That's all of the coins I have that are not loaned out at the moment, plus some unspent USD I have at gox. Every last drop.
I've never been a betting man until now. But this is free money.
Matthew, if you would like, I am willing to put these coins in escrow. I believe I have not done a forum transaction of this size before. Team Ponzi, here we go.
That's all of the coins I have that are not loaned out at the moment, plus some unspent USD I have at gox. Every last drop.
I've never been a betting man until now. But this is free money.
Matthew, if you would like, I am willing to put these coins in escrow. I believe I have not done a forum transaction of this size before. Team Ponzi, here we go.
Accepted.
OK. Here is my bet:
50 BTC
1MFjaqcbxNnkoih7QhM8DG2aQPKFWMd8sm
50 BTC
1MFjaqcbxNnkoih7QhM8DG2aQPKFWMd8sm
Accepted.
Just want to cement that my bet was accepted before this thread is locked.
I trust you; I'm just playing it safe here. Hope you don't mind.
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August 22, 2012, 12:02:37 PM
As per my OP, I reserve the right to lock my thread temporarily at anytime and reopen as conditions change. I will be locking the thread from additional bets within the hour.
Thank you.
Thank you.
August 22, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
I think he should have limited at 5 BTC/user and 500 BTC in total for this bet. My RL experience is that most people are fags. If they claim for "impossible","science prove you wrong", e.t.c. they never accepts a bet and "suddenly" have 1000 excuses. The very few who are engaging a bet usually wants very high bets and are on the wrong side. I guess Op belongs to the second group.
I hope OP will become sober soon.
I hope OP will become sober soon.
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August 22, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
Let me hedge some of my risk:
10 BTC 1Kc7q8YvgMuaMJZ2p9arkSsHUVXJP83dU7
10 BTC 1Kc7q8YvgMuaMJZ2p9arkSsHUVXJP83dU7
Accepted.
bet 800 BTC
19JGANpkz3iZ7Q1KiNTutEVqSpzALwBTGw
best of luck everyone
19JGANpkz3iZ7Q1KiNTutEVqSpzALwBTGw
best of luck everyone
Denied.
August 22, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
Let me hedge some of my risk:
10 BTC 1Kc7q8YvgMuaMJZ2p9arkSsHUVXJP83dU7
10 BTC 1Kc7q8YvgMuaMJZ2p9arkSsHUVXJP83dU7
August 22, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
sorry.. thought this was settled
August 22, 2012, 11:17:13 AM
What is the end date on this wager?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
If you're thinking about putting money on a bet, you should probably at least read the terms of the bet in the OP that answers that very question.
August 22, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
What is the end date on this wager?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
Settled in 3 weeks since Monday. End date could be any time, Matthew can lock the thread.
August 22, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
What is the end date on this wager?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
When will the outcome positive or negative be considered settled?
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August 22, 2012, 10:51:08 AM
Hi Matthew,
as it seams your brain disorder is now at a stage where you take a 13 post user good for 250$... (on the evil INTERNET, haha),
please let me up my bet and put in another additional
25btc
1FWMPAwHkqeTh9jdEo9YBoFztYbobZUPFS
as it seams your brain disorder is now at a stage where you take a 13 post user good for 250$... (on the evil INTERNET, haha),
please let me up my bet and put in another additional
25btc
1FWMPAwHkqeTh9jdEo9YBoFztYbobZUPFS
Acknowledged.
August 22, 2012, 10:23:52 AM
I'm with you yochdog... which is why I only bet 5 BTC. 
August 22, 2012, 10:20:56 AM
Hi Matthew,
as it seams your brain disorder is now at a stage where you take a 13 post user good for 250$... (on the evil INTERNET, haha),
please let me up my bet and put in another additional
25btc
1FWMPAwHkqeTh9jdEo9YBoFztYbobZUPFS
as it seams your brain disorder is now at a stage where you take a 13 post user good for 250$... (on the evil INTERNET, haha),
please let me up my bet and put in another additional
25btc
1FWMPAwHkqeTh9jdEo9YBoFztYbobZUPFS
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