In The Span Of six months what will make you trust a new casino - page 2.

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Quote from: maydna on December 28, 2023, 05:56:04 AM

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Quote from: maydna on December 27, 2023, 06:19:10 AM

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I would say A/B test is the way to go, not asking people what they would want. I mean it is logical that you could ask people, but that doesn't mean that what they say will be the same as what people will do, it could be different.

We could all be here and say X, and then when Y happens at a casino people rush there, it is not that easy. Sure signature campaigns mean a lot, it means you are going to get in front of a ton of people, many of them are rich, and that means something, and sure if there are no scam accusations that's good, how could having many scam accusations could be any good?

And sure, having a very active representative would help, well if they are a good representative of course, if they hire a bad one, it is not good, and sure good reviews on good review sites should be good too. I do not think that a casino should pick just one, they should aim for all four, why would you want to limit yourself, they are all important things.

What people say will be different because each person has their own opinion. But asking people is to see what they have to say about the test so the owner can think about what to add.

If there are indeed allegations of fraud, the casino must immediately take care of it and resolve all cases to restore its reputation. A casino that really cares about its business will continue this because it is concerned about its reputation. If they can clear up and resolve the issue properly, the fraud charges will surely go away, and the casino will regain its reputation.

Casino representatives who interact actively with people must provide maximum service to their members. They can also get good reviews because they provide maximum service.

yes, I also chose this, because that's what I think you need to pay attention to when getting to know a new casino, also actually with the reviews, what's important is not important, in my opinion that's also what you have to pay attention to in the same case, because with a new casino we really have to pay attention to it first. just so that undesirable things don't happen, because with many casinos there are also those that duplicate other casinos but with the aim of cheating, and I have experienced this where the winnings I got were not paid. This is what makes me more careful in choosing a new casino. one of them is by looking at the "No complaints or allegations of fraud" option.

and also people's different choices make it a consideration for me personally because with different thoughts I can see the reasons they choose other options and with that I have enough knowledge to get to know new casinos.

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I think all four is important but I chose the no complaint or scam accusation as the top one in priority

1. No complaint or scam accusation - If players aren't griping about the casino, it's likely doing something right. It can be through word of mouth or in socials.
2. Good reviews from casino review sites - When the pros say it's good, it usually is. Good reviews mean the casino's got the green light but sometimes there are fake reviews right?
3. Very responsive representative here - If the casino folks are quick to reply, that's a win. Nobody likes to wait around.
4. Launching a review and signature campaign - It's cool that they're making noise, but actions speak louder than campaigns. Let the real player experiences and reviews be the main show.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

If a new casino launches an announcement here in Bitcointalk what are the requirements or criteria that will make you trust them?
Within six months after they launched their announcement here

Very responsive representative here?

I will go for "Very responsive representative here" because the casino as a Bitcoin casino sites must had been examined, trusted with good reputations before it could had been authorized to be associated with the Bitcoin and Bitcoin is a reputable digital currency that has keep to maintain its potentials so it is termed that Bitcoin of this platform can not afford to indulge with any form of activities from other sectors of Organisations or institutes that may compromise their integrities so.... As long the casino is linked with the Bitcoin operations then I will accept that it is reliable and trusted.

So therefore, this platform is operations as to circulate the the existence and the potentials of Bitcoins is not only based to be spreaded by its positive potentials alone but also discusses about the biases such as the markets volatilities of depreciations and appreciations. So, it should be assumed that the casino would also the flexible to discuss about its both negative and positive potnetials here so that they don't only stream to again the attentions of the masses on the base of stricken to offer success winnings on the gamblers so, it is sure that they would also enhance to breed responsible gambling amongst the gamblers.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

If a new casino launches an announcement here in Bitcointalk what are the requirements or criteria that will make you trust them?
Within six months after they launched their announcement here

No complaints or scam accusations?
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I went with the "No complaints or scam accusations" option because that's one of the primary things I lookout for before trying out a nee service or product irrespective of whether or not it is a casino or sports bookie. The overall feedbacks from the others that have used such product or service is a key indicator of the kind of experience I stand to get as one of their newest users.

But that is for an aged casino. If it's a new one with little to no feedbacks from users, then a review and signature campaign is a metric that I would look at. If they're willing to have users review their service with the goal of perfecting their service, then I'm in. 100%.

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 27, 2023, 10:54:23 PM

Quote from: maydna on December 27, 2023, 06:19:10 AM

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I would say A/B test is the way to go, not asking people what they would want. I mean it is logical that you could ask people, but that doesn't mean that what they say will be the same as what people will do, it could be different.

We could all be here and say X, and then when Y happens at a casino people rush there, it is not that easy. Sure signature campaigns mean a lot, it means you are going to get in front of a ton of people, many of them are rich, and that means something, and sure if there are no scam accusations that's good, how could having many scam accusations could be any good?

And sure, having a very active representative would help, well if they are a good representative of course, if they hire a bad one, it is not good, and sure good reviews on good review sites should be good too. I do not think that a casino should pick just one, they should aim for all four, why would you want to limit yourself, they are all important things.

What people say will be different because each person has their own opinion. But asking people is to see what they have to say about the test so the owner can think about what to add.

If there are indeed allegations of fraud, the casino must immediately take care of it and resolve all cases to restore its reputation. A casino that really cares about its business will continue this because it is concerned about its reputation. If they can clear up and resolve the issue properly, the fraud charges will surely go away, and the casino will regain its reputation.

Casino representatives who interact actively with people must provide maximum service to their members. They can also get good reviews because they provide maximum service.

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Quote from: maydna on December 27, 2023, 06:19:10 AM

Perhaps they try to promote for 6 months to see the results. If the results are in accordance with what they want, they will continue to carry out other promotions. It is natural for casinos to conduct tests on their casinos to see how attentive gamblers are.

Marketing plays an important role in a business, so business owners will consider many things when promoting. Business owners may want to try a few promotions first to see how they develop over a few months. Business owners will try other promotions if they feel the casino needs to get the desired results.

I would say A/B test is the way to go, not asking people what they would want. I mean it is logical that you could ask people, but that doesn't mean that what they say will be the same as what people will do, it could be different.

We could all be here and say X, and then when Y happens at a casino people rush there, it is not that easy. Sure signature campaigns mean a lot, it means you are going to get in front of a ton of people, many of them are rich, and that means something, and sure if there are no scam accusations that's good, how could having many scam accusations could be any good?

And sure, having a very active representative would help, well if they are a good representative of course, if they hire a bad one, it is not good, and sure good reviews on good review sites should be good too. I do not think that a casino should pick just one, they should aim for all four, why would you want to limit yourself, they are all important things.

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Quote from: acroman08 on December 25, 2023, 12:48:14 PM

I chose a responsive representative, getting complaints and scam accusations is inevitable at some point and having a responsive representative will be a great way to address those issues. I want to see a representative who properly handles and acknowledges issues that might be presented to them.

good reviews from casino review sites and launching a review and signature campaign is not really a great way to base someone's trust in a casino.

Complaints and scam accusations can be made up, but they can also be common. Meanwhile, issues that came from the casino itself is more natural, therefore we need a responsive support in order to address our issues quickly. And like you said, a responsive support can also clarify things if the complaints that they are getting is legit or not. If more and more people are complaining, the owner will also do their best in order to solve the issue and ensure that the issue will not re-occur again after some time.

Good reviews can be honest. But what is questionable is if the review is too good, that is close to being too good to be true. It's also a good thing if the casino has a review campaign, as it allows user in the forum to give their honest review. While the signature campaign can give the users an added confidence, especially if the casino has no known bad records.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

No complaints or scam accusations?

This. One of an indication that the casino is not shady. It takes time to build a reputation. So if within 6 months they can prove their platform is not scam, it's the start of slowly gaining the trust. However we know it's not just the basis and anything can still happen in the future. Thus, it's a must that we always read the reviews of the gamblers playing on the particular site to see if there's a new issue and for us to become updated.

Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

Very responsive representative here?

Well, some reputable casinos don't have an active rep here. But it's a plus point for new casinos if their representative is responsive to address the questions and problems of the gamblers.

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Quote from: cabron on December 26, 2023, 10:55:53 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2023, 10:32:45 AM

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It would appear the casino only haave a few funds for the marketing that's why they are limiting their promotion time to six months. Are they able to ascertain whether the casino will be successful or not after 6 months?

The decline i business is faster than the growth. Due to the competition in online casinos, the marketing of the casino actually shouldn't stop because once they do, the rest of the casinos who are keeping their visibility to the public are the ones going to keep gaining clients. Once Stake halts its campaigns, they will see the effect in less than 3 months.

Perhaps they try to promote for 6 months to see the results. If the results are in accordance with what they want, they will continue to carry out other promotions. It is natural for casinos to conduct tests on their casinos to see how attentive gamblers are.

Marketing plays an important role in a business, so business owners will consider many things when promoting. Business owners may want to try a few promotions first to see how they develop over a few months. Business owners will try other promotions if they feel the casino needs to get the desired results.

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All the points OP mentioned have a weight. After thinking for a while about voting for a "Very responsive representative here" or "Good reviews from casino review sites".

It's good to have a casino representative here on the forum, many times we saw how helpful that can be. But since BTCGosu I will not register and play if it's not Gosu-approved. It's different when professionals test the casino and when we amateurs try it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on December 26, 2023, 07:21:45 PM

Having no scam accusations

But it isnt fair just to value casino by having or not any scam accusations. Some people are just stupid and blame casino for everything possible. A guy has lost - not his fault or unluck, its is because casino is scam. Guy registered with ip from restricted country and cant withdraw - casino is a scam. A guy sent btc to ethereum address and now casino cant help him - of course this is due to casino being a scam.

We must be very selective of what we consider as scam accusation. Just having a topic or post is not enough to blame.

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It makes sense to vote for no complaints or scam accusations, some new casinos easily misbehave with their customers and that's why I always feel skeptic when it comes to brand new online casinos, new casinos are known to be the most fraudulent ones as they don't always tend to run the business for long, they are most times ready to go down with customers funds.

I honestly get attracted to new online casinos after a long period of months, I will like to see what they can do after some time in operation, but still I can't avoid one fact that almost all casinos are the same, it's only the customers services and presentations that are different, this is why I don't bother looking for new casinos.

When a problem occurs, how sooner the team solve the problem adds a better layer of trust on such casino, this is one of the most effective ways to build reputation, I will go with how fast problems are handled and also how strong the casino rep is.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

Please vote and tell us why this is your choice all reasons are valid points but if you're going to pick one that will be the best answer what will it be?

Many people voted for No complaints or scam accusations. I think this makes sense because complaints could prove that the launch of their casino was carried out with incomplete preparation so many things were carried out which were disappointing and could be detrimental to players, but I have a different answer, there is number one, namely Launching a review and signature campaign because in my opinion by conducting a review and also a signature campaign they really care about all suggestions and criticisms on their casino which they can immediately develop if there is still something missing and also by promoting on this forum it proves that they have a budget and that It's quite important because we often see new casinos that turn out to have very limited funds and end up becoming scam casinos because they can't pay out the winnings their players get.

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Quote from: alegotardo on December 26, 2023, 07:44:41 PM

Obviously, the constant presence of a representative here on the forum is also very important, mainly to resolve any problems and also to answer bettors' questions.

Yes, it is true that the presence of casino representatives in this forum is really necessary to solve every user problem. The sooner the problem is resolved, the faster the casino's reputation will grow among the people in this forum, not only in this forum, at least also on their site there is also service support. very responsive to every problem, sometimes the casino always ignores it which makes it difficult for its reputation to rise on this forum.

If only casinos knew that they would definitely struggle to serve their customers well. Any complaints from the public on this forum can be resolved immediately by communicating with each other through their representatives on the forum. New casinos must learn how to improve their reputation on this forum. Sometimes there are also many gamblers who being on this forum always reminds new casinos that the interaction of casino representatives on this forum is very important and needed.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

No complaints or scam accusations?

Not every accusation is supposed to be true, most of the accusations against casinos are violation of terms by users and claiming casinos cheated them but the priority should be there should be no unsolved accusation if there is an actual one that is posted with all the evidence. Every site may have bugs or issues but their dedication towards fixing it shows they want to keep their brand clean and which is what I will look into over reviews, signatures, advertisements, giveaways.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

If a new casino launches an announcement here in Bitcointalk what are the requirements or criteria that will make you trust them?
Within six months after they launched their announcement here

Launching a review and signature campaign?

No complaints or scam accusations?

Very responsive representative here?

Good reviews from casino review sites?

Please vote and tell us why this is your choice all reasons are valid points but if you're going to pick one that will be the best answer what will it be?

If a casino launched a review campaign you should know that its all about money, people will give the casino a good review to get paid and that has no single truth in it, signature campaigns are still cleaner and better, it's a form of advertisement to members of the forum, anyone who seem interested can check the casinos out.

Complains and scam accusations can be found online even about big online casinos, like stake or Fortune jack, if care is not taken you can easily believe them, the little that I really went deep on are from people who broke the rules of the casino or try to cheat the casino and they get banned for it, out of their freak out they tend to tarnish the image of the casino, do not always believe every complains you see online, do your own research.

The longer a online casino have been operating the more reviews you will find online but most times you won't get to know a casino until you try it out yourself, the most favourite casino you use can be what someone hated the most, experience are not going to be the same.

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So far this is what the community wants for a casino to establish if they want the community to trust them, reputation ranks high a casino with no valid complaints or scam accusations will have the support of the community, although there are scam accusations that won't hold coming from false accusers, so the casino representative should be quick to address all issues, especially for a new casino, if the accusation is not true it will be expose.

Launching a review and signature campaign   - 5 (17.2%)
No complaints or scam accusations   - 17 (58.6%)
Very responsive representative here   - 6 (20.7%)
Good reviews from casino review sites   - 1 (3.4%)

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Quote from: dothebeats on December 26, 2023, 07:21:45 PM

Having no scam accusations and a responsive representative here in bitcointalk would certainly gain my respect to these casinos but certainly not trust. Trust is something that I will never really give to any platform at all. And that means I will not leave any money in the platform when it's not really needed. I'd just deposit something when I want to play and get it when I'm done. I'll entrust these guys to run the casino business smoothly, but not 100% with other people's money. There are some established casinos that just went down without any explanation with people's funds, and if that isn't something that one should be wary about, then I don't know what will.

We can grow to become useful or struggling with modern world because there's completely no such actions of helping or trusting a casino whose main objective is providing and serves as a medium for gamblers to be able place wager on games. Trust is the core basis for any human being to give to any casino, definitely not a casino because they're full of volatile results. Remember it's gambling and we can never trust a casino, I can overheard some group of gamblers planning on saving their money on casino, to me I personally wonder what such of irrelevant and unwise choice that's been carried out in that manner?

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

If a new casino launches an announcement here in Bitcointalk what are the requirements or criteria that will make you trust them?
Within six months after they launched their announcement here

Certainly reputation is the most important thing.
Even a casino with several years of presence here on the bitcointalk forum but with a bad reputation will not have my trust.
The absence of serious complaints or always refuting complaints with concrete evidence or consistent reasons is the main reason for me to trust a betting site. Although, in the case of a new casino (the OP said 6 months) then it is expected that there will not even be a serious complaint involving money that has gone up, account banning or withdrawal problems.

Obviously, the constant presence of a representative here on the forum is also very important, mainly to resolve any problems and also to answer bettors' questions.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 25, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

All are essential in building a reputation but for the first thing is when they are introduced or their marketing activities is managed by the reputable member of this forum. If a reputable member of this forum manages their campaign, it means there is a slim chance of the casino scamming their player unless, they had this plan ahead like some casinos that turn rogue after some months they are managed by the campaign manger.

There is no casino that does not have scam accusations, the thing is how they handle these accusations. If they have proved that these accusations is false than that would be a big plus for them.

Most of the review sites are plagued by shills except for some reputable review sites we know in this forum.

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