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Topic: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums? - page 2. (Read 5718 times)

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I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Well you sure do come across that way.

I was smart not investing.

I am ethical.

I suspect you are ethical and smart.

Why is there a disconnect with your OPINION of Josh's behaviour? Seems to me your assessment skews one way not both. I find that distressing given the actual evidence that exists about Josh minus the vitriol the guy has acted unethically and is a douche bag pretty much for trying to slander me as an example.


he slandered you? can you back that up with a quote? or you just slandering him?

Umm read above dude... I have posted 2x about this and you seem to ignore each time.

I don't have time to point out what I have already posted. Check MY TRUST RATING as I have stated already or read a few posts above. I hope you are not being purposefully obtuse I really don't have the time for people taking the piss. If you are not going to read what I write and post why should I bother in this dialogue with you?

hero member
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I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Well you sure do come across that way.

I was smart not investing.

I am ethical.

I suspect you are ethical and smart.

Why is there a disconnect with your OPINION of Josh's behaviour? Seems to me your assessment skews one way not both. I find that distressing given the actual evidence that exists about Josh, minus the vitriol of course, acting unethically and is a douche bag pretty much for trying to slander me as a single example there are countless more in these forums.
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I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Again you avoid the point.

What is your opinion of his slandering others?
What is your opinion about his stand on say refunds given the FTC rules for shipping products?

You may want to cheer his past what about now?
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Oh? I just said he seems like a nice guy when not dealing with retards who slander him. You have to admit most of the claims people said about him in this thread were not exactly true.



You have it the wrong way around... the chicken came first not the egg.


He has at every chance, devolved every thread, that has pointed out clearly what he has done to injure his customers into name calling. Sorry but how about we look at his behavior with regards to slander first. Concurrently you can also look at his lack of ethical business practices.

At what point does this synergy make you want to admit he lacks integrity that you or I have?
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i doubt it to be worth 1 btc.

Actually, it is.
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Inaba is a business man.

That should say it all.
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Oh? I just said he seems like a nice guy when not dealing with retards who slander him. You have to admit most of the claims people said about him in this thread were not exactly true.



ill pay u a bitcoin to throat my honker, bitch
legendary
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I say innocent until proven guilty, and i dont mean by a jury that is biased.
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At some point this guy will be dragged into a court and have to defend himself for his actions. I am surprised that the FBI is not investigating his pool and mining operations for money laundering yet.

lol, you crack me up.

I am suprised...

no need to fact check my opinion is there?

Given the dirt bag did this to me I feel it is fair to speculate wildly about what the FBI might find when they look into his operations. Unlike Josh I have been bonded and can be bonded in Canada, and is likely a matter of public record but I will leave that up to you check out from the OPP database in Toronto.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3012552

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Talk about frightening.  He couldn't get approved in Canada (I suspect because of his legal problems) and decided to move somewhere with less stringent laws governing people such as himself coming in contact with children.  I believe his wife is listed as the "owner" of the school, which is probably why he was able to pass a background check to get the place started.  For bonus points, check out his video's on Youtube.  Dude is classic coiled spring waiting to go off.

I suspect I am not the only one he has slandered in the forums. Might want to have a longer look at your hero there Goat.
legendary
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I never got his business card. And anyway is that a "fact" or a fact? Hard to tell with all these false claims flying around.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/management-view/josh-zerlan-3/
legendary
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The title of the thread says "Inaba", Josh_BFL is the account that works for BFL.

Inaba operates a pool.

You guys need to target BFL or at least Josh_BFL

Josh doesn't use the BFL_Josh account. He uses his Inaba account for all his BFL-related activities.

Anyway what else did he do as a person, like personally other than call a few of you some names? Being wrong about shipping dates I highly doubt was his call to make. Again PR just deals with the public and says what he is told to say.

Josh is not just "PR". He is a senior-level executive at BFL. Read up on what a COO is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_operating_officer
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To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?

The case was DirecTV v. Puccinelli et al.  It was not a criminal case, but a civil case.  I do not know how it was resolved.  So far as I am aware, there were never any criminal charges involved, and so far as I know, Josh Zerlan has no criminal record.  If someone knows differently, I'd be glad to see it.

I had a read through the court documents some time ago and as far as I remember, Zerlan was originally involved in the proceedings as an Accused (along dozens of others), but was dropped from the case very early.
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At some point this guy will be dragged into a court and have to defend himself for his actions. I am surprised that the FBI is not investigating his pool and mining operations for money laundering yet.
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Haha this thread is great.  Grin
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Yeah im not happy about the shipping but you did slander him.

I dont know too much about the rest.

He runs a good pool and is a cool guy in person.

Being pr for bfl must suck and really i think you should be attacking them not josh.

That or gox... talk about scum...

No he has slandered me and the people that I worked with at Big Picture Mining Cooperative. Let us get that straight, unlike Inaba I corrected my errors. He continues to promote his slanderous activity even when they are demonstratively proved to be incorrect.

Guys a Grade A scum bag based on the facts presented I suspect you would agree regardless of his pool operations.
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Thanks Obama Inaba
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Redacted the term "criminal".  http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-ksd-2_03-cv-02287/pdf/USCOURTS-ksd-2_03-cv-02287-4.pdf

Either way his threat to inform my boss (me) that I was a danger to children was a douchebag move and so was LYING about me and the Big Picture Mining Cooperative not refunding people for the K1 Nanos we were going to be build and cancelled given Avalon didn't ship the chips. REFUNDED everyone in short time and we did that proactively.

Those facts alone should give you pause.

The facts about the shipping have given you pause.

The facts about the delays on productions and shipping based on Inaba's promises must give you pause.

The allegations about back door shipping and mining of BFL rigs should give you pause.

The manner and tone of Inaba in the forums to his customers should give you pause.

The failure to refund and then to defend policies, like Inaba has and counter to FTC regulations, should also give you pause.

Add all that up and I suspect you would also come to the same conclusion. The guy is a scumbag.
legendary
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To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?

The case was DirecTV v. Puccinelli et al.  It was not a criminal case, but a civil case.  I do not know how it was resolved.  So far as I am aware, there were never any criminal charges involved, and so far as I know, Josh Zerlan has no criminal record.  If someone knows differently, I'd be glad to see it.

I'm no fan of the guy, but there's no need to make stuff up about him.
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Sure the theft conviction is related. I guess by context it was bfl related? Can you link me to the court documents or something?

Thanks


How about you do the leg work, there are plenty of pissed off customers posting all the evidence you need right here in the forums and one opinion doesn't matter whether it is your simple statement he ran an ok pool or my comments he lied in the trust rating about me and Big Picture Mining Cooperative and his attempt to threaten me saying he was going to report me as a danger to children to my employers a pure scumbag move. He definitely has little ethical or moral base given those 2 examples of his actions in this forum you don't need more evidence do you?

Let us not play semantics with regards to the BFL = Josh comment just be honest about his behaviour. Guys a full on douche bag. He lies and has a criminal record. You and I on the other hand I would safely say have integrity have never been convicted of a criminal offense and would be respected as ethical entities in this forum. Josh / Inaba is not.

To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?
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