Topic: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums? - page 3. (Read 5691 times)

How about you do the leg work, there are plenty of pissed off customers posting all the evidence you need right here in the forums and one opinion doesn't matter whether it is your simple statement he ran an ok pool or my comments he lied in the trust rating about me and Big Picture Mining Cooperative and his attempt to threaten me saying he was going to report me as a danger to children to my employers a pure scumbag move. He definitely has little ethical or moral base given those 2 examples of his actions in this forum you don't need more evidence do you?

Let us not play semantics with regards to the BFL = Josh comment just be honest about his behaviour. Guys a full on douche bag. He lies and has a  been brought before a court for stealing cable criminal record. You and I on the other hand I would safely say have integrity have never been convicted of any criminal offense in a court of law and would be respected as ethical entities in this forum. Josh / Inaba is not.

Careful, it's a trap! 

Inaba and BFL are gods of BTC. Yifu and Avalon come in second.  BFL presold thousands of miners and got people to drink their kool aid. They mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got very high then  started to trickle hardware/sell hardware out the back door/front door. You have to admire companies that can screw you that hard and then make you want to come back for more.

Yifu and Avalon come in second to BFL. They started out like they were angels but that was just a fake out. Their true nature came out with the chip fiasco. Avalon sold chips to another company while they made the group buys wait for their chips. Difficulty and chip delivery delays caused many group buys and builders to cancel orders. Avalon also mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got high then delivered hardware with almost no possibility of ROI. They are now attempting a second fake out. They sell some cheap outdate hardware thru auction to build some goodwill. People are still drinking Yifu's Kool aid.  

Well, if they're claiming that, so far as I know, anyone claiming that is wrong.  We can agree on that.

That hasn't happened yet, though we can hope.

When you combine the fact that Josh comes off as being an arrogant self-centered condescending ass with the fact that he is the 'face' of a company that constantly has issues with extreme shipping delays/engineering/management/ad nauseam... it opens all kind of angles for attacks, it almost seems intentional sometimes.

Maybe Josh is just the patsy for BFL... he will end up being the one thrown under the bus or silently removed from BFL and flown off to Mexico where he will enjoy his days sipping Pina Coladas & mining with everyone's hardware, and BFL will apologize for all of the heartache Josh caused and offer a cookie to those who are still upset.  *Cookie to be delivered in the next 2 weeks and may or may not be half eaten.

Throwing out all of the 'unverified' or 'unproven' comments, I still think he's an ass - as a person.    
... and BFL seems to be a poorly run company or a well thought out scheme.

So far as I know, Josh has never responded to anything I've said, but I don't know, since I put him on ignore pretty quickly.  I don't like thieves.  Apparently, you do, or at least, you have been remarkably generous with your money to them.

If you don't understand why people wouldn't like thieves, I'm afraid I can't explain it.  It's just one of those things some people don't like.  It's not like the guy or his company has personally ripped me off, because pre-ordering from companies founded by convicted criminals and manned by vermin like Josh is not my cup of tea.

Just don't like the guy, the company he works for, the guy who founded it, or the company itself.

Pfft right. Guy lies on trust ratings and threatens people with false accusations to get them fired. Guys a scumbag full stop and that includes his actions on behalf of BFL here in these forums.

Not enough. At this point you are being purposefully obtuse? Maybe you need to make full disclosure on your dealings with Inaba. There are plenty more examples available we will simply leave that up to you to ignore but don't expect everyone else here to simply nod in agreement that he is reputable. He isn't. He has lied in his capacity as an officer in the company he represents both as JOSH and INABA for BFL. He has been brought to court and sentenced for theft not something we should take into consideration when determining the ethical make up of this individual? Finally he has refused to offer refunds to paying customers based on FTC regulations in so far that members of this community have had to call their banks, credit card companies and paypal to get force refunds. At what point are you going to admit the guy is a douchebag as well as criminal is the evidence not sufficient? I suspect you are being purposefully obtuse and one wonders why you would do that?

Check out how Inaba / Josh described why $300 for EXPEDITED shipping was necessary... then tell me he isn't a scum bag for cheating people on shipping.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-charges-about-300-for-shipping-actual-cost-is-5395-313218


Guy is a scumbag... and a liar.

Are you being serious or am I being trolled?  "Chief Operating Officer" is not the title of an employee.  It is a corporate OFFICER, hence the word OFFICER in the name.  Do you think that maybe a Chief OPERATING Officer has something to do, maybe, with OPERATING the company?

I mean fucking seriously.  Get real.

I'll also revise my post.  It wouldn't be simple respondeat superior liability that applies to any action of an employee on the job.  Josh actually speaks as a corporate officer.  That is, yes, he IS speaking for BFL when in his official capacity, just as the CEO or any other corporate officer would.

Like respondeat superior, NOT a difficult concept to understand unless you're going out of your way not to understand it, for whatever incomprehensible reason.

When I refer to his nick, I mean the human being whose legal name is Josh Zerlan and who is Chief Operating Officer of BFL, by which I mean the entity incorporated in Wyoming and doing business in Kansas.  Do I really have to be this excruciatingly precise not to be deliberately misunderstood?

Please read before responding.

He is just employee or coowner ? If employee, he just get his small salary, and it is just his normal personality

hate that cunt! who is he?

If you don't like what your PR is doing, you fire him. If you keep him, you bear all the consequences. It is simple.

Crooks will stay together as long as there are stupid money available.

No, I never said BFL=Josh.  However, when Josh appears publicly as a representative for BFL, it is BFL acting vicariously through him.  It's not a very difficult concept.

Josh is the "face" of BFL. The "face" did his dirty job to deceive, lie, and mislead BFL sponsors (aka customers). Without Josh's polished skills of a professional fraudster BFL certainly won't have such a "success" robbing so many people. He is the master crook in BFL & Co and deserves the lion share of all the stolen money.

Do you know what having a job means?  It means when you are on the job, which Inaba is when he's here, you're acting as an agent of the company.  The company is legally on the hook for it.  So yes, when he's doing his monkey dance here, he effectively is BFL for all legal purposes, at least from the BFL_Josh account.  Considering that he continues to do the same shit from his Inaba account, despite that allegedly being his "personal" account, BFL is probably on the hook for that, too.  It's called respondeat superior.[/quote]

You are certainly not looking hard enough. Just check my trust rating to see the type of thing he is willing to do to discredit honest people. Basically he is a lying scum bag and further proof of that are the attempts in threads to threaten people's jobs by misrepresenting them to their employers. He sent a clearly unveiled threat he would inform my "boss" that I was a danger to children. I welcomed him to email me his concerns as I am my own boss with 18+ years in education with nothing but GLOWING recommendations from parents, peers and students but I guess you would say you have never seen him behave like a scumbag. So you might want to check into his actions a bit more and as far as I can tell, he is pretty much built to lie, cheat and everyone already knows he has already been sentenced for stealing so if that ain't a one way ticket to scumbagville I don't know what is. All one has to do is read to find out what kind of person he really is.

Being anti-zionist is not being racist
kthxbai

BitCoin =/= BFL. I provide information about BitCoin, not BFL or ASIC companies. There is a difference. Also, I have never seen him behave like a scumbag, if I did saw something like that, I would have said something else. I only share my personal opinion about Inaba (not BFL) and it seems that you clearly disagree with that. Nothing I can do about it.

BFL are scumbags for doing what they do.
Inaba as a voice for BFL has behaved as a scumbag.

The fact that BFL didn't fire him for his behavior means what exactly?

I put that to you to describe... that when an agent of a company acts in that manner and is not sanctioned it might mean that BFL condones that activity and that the Inaba as agent of BFL never apologizes for his company is also a clear indication that he is by default ok with BFL's scummy behavior.

How can one reasonably not equate both parties? Where has BFL and Inaba differed in their communication? Sounds more like the Tea Party or Republicans rather than Obama and Congress.

Obama as the American President works with the Congress, House and Judiciary there is no parliamentary system in the USA. Your analogy is no where near equitable with the actions of Inaba and BFL. When people sue BFL they are going to use the statements and promises of Inaba as evidence... let us see what happens. It is more like the Tea Party they are assholes and act like scumbags and are bringing the whole US system to it's knees for no other purpose than what? Hatred? Ineptitude? False pride? Take your pick that is where the analogy should be pointed.

If you haven't seen the 6+ month backlog post I can't help but think you lack the ability to find the "information" let alone BITCOIN INFORMATION.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3344815



STILL TAKING ORDERS on the 5Gh/s Jalapeno... ya that is ethical.