Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 77. (Read 186805 times)

 It's a little bit telling that Yifu is able to shmooze it up with Bitcoin luminaries such as Josh Zerlan of Butterfly Labs and Sam of KNC at a recent conference... Because surely if there were people after Yifu, they wouldn't think to look for him at a public event in NYC.

lol, just succumbing to the reality of it all,,,maybe this way i can keep my stress level down and blood pressure

Okay, Yifu2, whatever you say...

MinermanNC is going soft on us... what is the world coming to?

Avalon Guys are Straight,

They won't cheat on you like BFL....
We were within the first guys who ordered 1 Batch of ASICS and it was shipped almost 2 weeks ago ( it was 5 days in customs- since monday) ....So it all depends on when you made your order...
You should better worry about other things and have the PCBs and parts ready for the arrival of the chips.

Gosh with all these theories and speculations about what is happening with yifu and the chips and avalon,,its almost easier for me just except what he told us yesterday at face value. How ever bizarre things may seem, they may really be held up in customs and he really may have another chip route and supply in the works? And they really may be in development of Gen 2 chips and 3 and 4..lol. The way I see it is, yifu didnt have to come into the thread and say anything if he was on the take or getting ready to blow us all off, he could have simply just never came back. I certainly don't think all the chatter in here of law suits and all that mumbo jumbo caused him to appear for us,,then tell us some lies and then vanish again. I think there may be some merit to what he has stated to us. I feel, he really didn't know what to tell us for a month,,cause he probably didn't know himself? So now he has something to tell us and he did come back in with a report. Not what we wanted to hear of course, but he did come back. So slam and threatened all we want but its not going to change things at the present time. Perhaps he will come back in today or tomorrow with a better update or maybe news and ETA's of the chips?...ok, my 2 cents for now. Next week at this time it may be another story!!  

This is one of the things that surprises me about the deal that is supposedly taking place, surely the investor would have done some digging, seen a lot of these sorts of threads and realised that all is not as rosey as the bank balance is suggesting.

It's hardly like there are loads of BTC forums, simply Googling his Yifu's name brings up a few "alarming" ones.

Admit it that you are afraid, community would provide you all needed funds to hire best lawyers and stuff.
Who cares about the chips, there is many more mirrions to be won at court
https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
Remember it? the "I don't control that" address.
There are some serious money to be taken, and if this thing would go public we would possibly achieve a deal breaker for Ex-banker (Phoenix) and chinese liar (Yifu).
The investor wouldn't trust such a scumbag if it goes public and he would be aware who he is going to take care of his investment.
Yifu deserves it, so the whole bitcoin community to stop this preorder madness.

Mafia after us. Yelp. Better not answer any email, calls, tickets and all. Oh I better hide somewhere also. A bitcoin conference is pretty big one so they won't be find to me. I'm so scared that I've created gen2 chips while in hiding. But alas, the mafia are now gone for some strange reason and I can now resume communication.

Did Bitsyncom's split as stated by Gridchip last month?
Yes.

Were Batch 2's arriving late with evidence of excessive use and pre configured for mining?
Yes.

Were Bitsyncom in possession of 2+ million chips as of the end of June, with photographic proof including that of the Airway Bill and Tracking number  to substantiate such a claim?
Yes.

Were as claimed by Gridchip, Bitcoin actively sourcing investment from Private Equity to create a 40nm chip?
Yes.

Did the WSJ claim that an ex-Lehman bankster had hooked up a meeting with TSMC for Tuesday?
Yes.

Did Yifu attend a meeting with TSMC in Amsterdam last Tuesday?
Yes.

Has hashrate been going ballistic of late?
Yes.

Did Yifu only after weeks of ignoring any and every form of contact create a thread within hours of suggestions to contact Interpol after disappearing with millions in advance customer funds without any delivery at an agreed date despite having proof he was in possession of those chips two weeks earlier?
Yes.

Has Yifu ignored addressing any of the above, clearing up the speculation which is proving to be accurate?
Yes.

Have your returns been squandered without reasonable evidence to support Bitsyncom's claims?
Yes.

Is Bitcoin now for all intents and purposes in the US now potentially legally considered a currency?
Yes.

Has any manipulation with respect to the currency's supply, and it's network coverage been wilfully manipulated and syphoned for personal gain?


These are serious questions and allegations that have been claimed from former members of Bitsyncom, leaked to the mainstream press and have for the most part been prove to be on the mark. Yifu cannot avoid explaining what's been happening behind the scenes at Bitsyncom whilst your investment and trust in him has been tarnished.

Certainly SebJu, Burnin, Terrahash, BKKCoins etc. have done nothing wrong. In fact their administration, ingenuity and communication has been exceptional. If anything I originally anticipated those guys to be the weak link in the chain!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but to add to the shit pile, the price of BTC is falling.

Thanks guys, i know its only some voices but i think its best to clear things up before rumours spread that dont have a reason.


I cant understand Yifu since a long time. He didnt want to do support, it would have taken a minute to solve a ticket, instead he piled the tickets until it looked like real work. I cant understand this behaviour. After i pressured him like "You think i can let this lay down and risk..." too much he answered me in a ticket about a chip batch problem:
In other words this means to me he will not hire a support person. And no, i dont understand this. Maybe he is workaholic and cant give work away?

And then he claimed that all batch 3 miners left, next is the batch 3 refund. But nothing happened till now. What did he do the last hours?

And regarding the chips... until he doesnt explain us why the 135 chip boxes werent distributed to us i dont know what to think about. So many chips he didnt order alone so it has to be chip batches. And since the chip sale started at one time for all buyers and zefir was one of the first buyers with his first batches im puzzled how he will explain this. But i fear we wont get an answer.

All pre-orders especially in BTC should be escrowed with a sliding scale price depending on confirmed delivery time.  Problem solved.

You are right, you are not being paid enough to handle that kind of stress.

People need someone to blame... yelling and screaming about Yifu isn't working, so they need a new target. Small customers like myself feel pretty powerless now in what we can do (outside of flaming these boards). You have probably been the most vocal that I have seen from the other group buy leaders. Steamboat hasn't been as aggressive when it comes to Avalon, but he has been updating customers by basically saying 'we are still waiting for chips', I just think a more aggressive approach is necessary now after this update. I am hoping all of the group buy leaders post something in their threads regarding the Avalon news and state their opinions of it and any possible steps they are taking to protect their investments or progress towards some type of financial retribution from Avalon.

Meanwhile, here's Yifu... fearing his life from the mobsters trying to get him and his team:


If I had mobsters knocking on my team members doors, I wouldn't be showing up at any public bitcoin conference and surely wouldn't be seeking comfort in the arms of Sonny.

Yes, and it wouldn't hurt you to read back a few pages.  I've posted this multiple times in the last few hours:

"The news": 

They're working on generation 2 of the chips and won't be selling the gen-1 chips once they're out of stock.  Also, they won't be doing pre-orders from this point on, only shipping from stock.  Also, the mafia is after them, which is why no response for 5 weeks.  And the chips should be shipping again by "the end of next week".

As was any knowledge of the supposed "Phoenix Fund".

No, Joe Lewis's interest was publicly denied.

SO DID HE UPDATED SINCE YESTERDAY???