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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 30, 2024, 09:08:00 AM

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Binny is a puppet of Jay Shah, that is the reason we don't see him actively being part of the decision as we have seen through the PR agencies of Jay Shah. I agree with you but look how much media this nepo kid is still getting and most probably he will get more after he shifts the CT to some neutral ground.

IMO when nepo kids start producing good results, we should move on and judge them by their intentions and the hard work they put in.

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I do not think he will agree with the hybrid model after becoming the ICC chairperson. I feel he will use his powers to get all boards to move the venue. That is what he has been doing after becoming the BCCI secretary. Currently the situation in Pakistan is not that friendly for the tournament to happen without any issue.

I am confident that the upcoming ICC tournament will be shifted to a new venue.

I highly doubt that because it would be unethical and overall look ugly on his part. From time to time, ICC does bend its knee in front of BCCI, but these actions will further damage its reputation. Recently, ICC also allocated $50-$70 Million to PCB for CT and it won't make sense to relocate the complete tournament.

If by any chance there is some terrorist attack then it's another ball game and can happen due to security reasons, otherwise, I don't see alternate option to the "Hybrid Model"

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 29, 2024, 08:24:48 AM

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Binny is a puppet of Jay Shah, that is the reason we don't see him actively being part of the decision as we have seen through the PR agencies of Jay Shah. I agree with you but look how much media this nepo kid is still getting and most probably he will get more after he shifts the CT to some neutral ground.

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-On CT, from the start, it was clear that India wouldn't travel to Pakistan and push for a Hybrid model. It happened during the Asia Cup as well. Pakistan was supposed to host but SL hosted Indian fixtures. It would be a huge surprise for everyone, including PCB if BCCI agrees to travel to Pakistan.

I do not think he will agree with the hybrid model after becoming the ICC chairperson. I feel he will use his powers to get all boards to move the venue. That is what he has been doing after becoming the BCCI secretary. Currently the situation in Pakistan is not that friendly for the tournament to happen without any issue.

I am confident that the upcoming ICC tournament will be shifted to a new venue.

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Came across a post today on a social media platform wherein the discussion was on nepotism in BCCI. Recently Jay Shah became the President of ICC, with this development I can assure you and everyone wondering whether CT will be shifted from Pakistan to a different venue.

That it is going to happen for sure, if not the venue then the Indian matches will be played in a neutral venue. Coming back to the nepo topic again, Jay Shah son of Amit Shah was the head of BCCI after his departure the new BCCI honcho will be Arun Jaitley's son. These politicians kid might understand the game but they do not know how cricket works on the field as they might have not played it.

Why are the players of the past not holding key positions like the position these guys have been in? Her last known name was Sourav Ganguly after him again political-influenced individuals are in key positions.

What do you think?

Regarding the whole nepo kid debate or former players holding a high post.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 22, 2024, 11:46:14 AM

No issue on giving him the name of Nepo product etc because it's true.

Having said that these tactics and name calling take a back seat when such individuals work hard in their respective fields and manage to implement successful policies. He did a fairly good job for Indian cricketer as an administrator (He's not BCCI chief but it's clear that he gives the green light to almost everything), the bar was low because his predecessor underperformed or refused to work positively but we should give credit where it's due.

- Successfully ran WPL and proved to everyone that women's cricket can be profitable as well.
- Raised the salary cap for the domestic player, it wasn't his original plan but he played a big role and resolved the pending program as soon as he got power.

-Apart from that. He's not head of BCCI but Secretary. Roger Binny became BCCI chief after Ganguly (had a high hope and he did nothing but got into dick measuring contest with Kohli).
-On CT, from the start, it was clear that India wouldn't travel to Pakistan and push for a Hybrid model. It happened during the Asia Cup as well. Pakistan was supposed to host but SL hosted Indian fixtures. It would be a huge surprise for everyone, including PCB if BCCI agrees to travel to Pakistan.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 28, 2024, 10:15:25 AM

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Came across a post today on a social media platform wherein the discussion was on nepotism in BCCI. Recently Jay Shah became the President of ICC, with this development I can assure you and everyone wondering whether CT will be shifted from Pakistan to a different venue.

That it is going to happen for sure, if not the venue then the Indian matches will be played in a neutral venue. Coming back to the nepo topic again, Jay Shah son of Amit Shah was the head of BCCI after his departure the new BCCI honcho will be Arun Jaitley's son. These politicians kid might understand the game but they do not know how cricket works on the field as they might have not played it.

Why are the players of the past not holding key positions like the position these guys have been in? Her last known name was Sourav Ganguly after him again political-influenced individuals are in key positions.

What do you think?

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 28, 2024, 08:21:36 AM

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Regarding KL Rahul, he did post some cryptic msz regarding some "Announcement" and then surfaced a fake tweet of retirement on the internet.

I knew that when I came across different articles related to his retirement. It was only a spam, as far as I understand, why would anyone at his age come up with the idea of retirement? I sometimes think that these guys are trying their level best to get attention.
They do have PR agencies that are continuously preaching that they are the ones who should be selected. Look at how a flamboyant Casanova like Pandya is getting attention after he was caught cheating by his then wife.

PR can be brutal, and if you ask me about his last over, then I would say SKY was the reason why India won, not because of his bowling.

Recently KL Rahul gave an interview to Nikhil Kamath on YouTube. I haven't watched it yet but from the reports I came across it seems like he talked about all the issues regarding his career, coffee with Karan's controversy (Hardik +KL interview) etc. The kind of competition is going on for the Indian team and young players are moving up on the pecking order, his age will be a big factor because he's 32 now.

He's already out of the T-20 team, The Test spot is safe for now but one bad season could finish his test career because he's now competing for the middle order and competition is very tight (Pant, Paddikal, Sarfraz and throw Iyer-Jurel-Kishan in the mix as well). In ODI his spot is fixed for a couple of years, for the right reasons and he has a lot of offer with bat and gloves.

Lol i wasn't aware of this incident "Pandaya cheating on his wife".

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 28, 2024, 07:31:04 AM

Regarding KL Rahul, he did post some cryptic msz regarding some "Announcement" and then surfaced a fake tweet of retirement on the internet.

I knew that when I came across different articles related to his retirement. It was only a spam, as far as I understand, why would anyone at his age come up with the idea of retirement? I sometimes think that these guys are trying their level best to get attention.
They do have PR agencies that are continuously preaching that they are the ones who should be selected. Look at how a flamboyant Casanova like Pandya is getting attention after he was caught cheating by his then wife.

PR can be brutal, and if you ask me about his last over, then I would say SKY was the reason why India won, not because of his bowling.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 25, 2024, 07:14:31 AM

Gabbar retired, he had nothing else to do which is why I guess he took the decision. I also wondered why would KL take an early retirement when he was part of the ODI series. Unfortunately, his performance has gone down but he can make a comeback. Yeah the strict decision by BCCI made these guys realise that they need to play in domestic cricket otherwise they will lose a good amount of money from BCCI.

Gabbar is such a gem, in an ideal world he deserved a farewell because he served India well and without any ego. A couple of years back or maybe during the last ODI WC, journalist asked him about the possibility of his comeback and he replied something like" Arey naye bache bahut tagde hai, unhe mauka milna chahiye". You don't hear such a thing from any Indian cricketer. I am still bumped up about his injury in the 2019 ODI WC. He was in good touch but his injury ruined the party for him and ofc India as well.

Regarding KL Rahul, he did post some cryptic msz regarding some "Announcement" and then surfaced a fake tweet of retirement on the internet.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 23, 2024, 09:26:30 AM

Lol fake hi hogi. Launda full taiyari kar raha hai jab se uske stock neeche gaye hai. Waise bhi Indian cricketers kahan retirement lete hai apne aap se.

Tbh messaging (removal from central contracts) has been quite clear from the management and it seems to be working, that's why you don't piss off the management unless you are a big dog. Duleep Trophy is more connected to the upcoming 5 tests match series (BAN and NZ), so everyone made themselves available. I'd be more interested in the Ranji Trophy participation as some offenders like Bishnoi, Krunal, etc didn't feature here because of the pecking order.

Gabbar retired, he had nothing else to do which is why I guess he took the decision. I also wondered why would KL take an early retirement when he was part of the ODI series. Unfortunately, his performance has gone down but he can make a comeback. Yeah the strict decision by BCCI made these guys realise that they need to play in domestic cricket otherwise they will lose a good amount of money from BCCI.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 23, 2024, 05:24:04 AM

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This time everyone is playing even Ishan Kishan Grin

What's this news about KL Rahul announcing his retirement on Instagram? Is that a fake news or genuine one? I hope it is fake as it is too early for him to take retirement.

Lol fake hi hogi. Launda full taiyari kar raha hai jab se uske stock neeche gaye hai. Waise bhi Indian cricketers kahan retirement lete hai apne aap se.

Tbh messaging (removal from central contracts) has been quite clear from the management and it seems to be working, that's why you don't piss off the management unless you are a big dog. Duleep Trophy is more connected to the upcoming 5 tests match series (BAN and NZ), so everyone made themselves available. I'd be more interested in the Ranji Trophy participation as some offenders like Bishnoi, Krunal, etc didn't feature here because of the pecking order.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 21, 2024, 03:16:56 AM

Speaking of the Gauti effect, Look at the squad announcement of Duleep Trophy.

I don't remember when the last time was when almost every national team player made themselves available for domestic cricket. Only Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Ashwin and Shami (recovering) are missing.

Unofficial retirement moment for Pujara and Rahane as both of them are missing out. My biggest disappointment is Prithvi Shaw, he fell out of everybody's radar.

This time everyone is playing even Ishan Kishan Grin

What's this news about KL Rahul announcing his retirement on Instagram? Is that a fake news or genuine one? I hope it is fake as it is too early for him to take retirement.

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Speaking of the Gauti effect, Look at the squad announcement of Duleep Trophy.

I don't remember when the last time was when almost every national team player made themselves available for domestic cricket. Only Virat, Rohit, Bumrah, Ashwin and Shami (recovering) are missing.

Unofficial retirement moment for Pujara and Rahane as both of them are missing out. My biggest disappointment is Prithvi Shaw, he fell out of everybody's radar.

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One series loss against a weak team doesn't mean that Indian players are not good in ODI. GG is in the phase where he will try and test different players in different situations. This will help the team to develop themselves into a squad that cannot be defeated. We saw a similar kind of tactics by Rahul Dravid for few years before the T20WC. Before that spectacular win the T20WC they tried new kind of arrangements in ODIWC. Unfortunately we lost the finals but now with GG in as head coach he will try something different. The key is to win CT and that all matters. Let him do whatever he wants to get us the trophy as he has more pressure than we could imagine.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on August 11, 2024, 10:00:52 AM

India claims that they were the better players of spin than anyone else but this series really proved that they will fumble on decent spinning tracks too so India should discuss more about approaching in terms of techniques in their batting because all those LBW and Bowled are point of concerns.

I still don't know why Gill is so much special. Roll Eyes

If we take Bumrah and Shami their own seam attack is obsolete and they could have tried guy like Haristh Rana instead of giving game time for Siraj.

2000s outfit had legendary batters against spin. Even the early 2010s and mid-2015s teams had incredible spin batters but post 2016-17 Indian batting showed a drastic decline against any spin (Tests). The main reason was that many national players stopped featuring in the Ranji. In test cricket, a new lot is good against spin for ex; Gill (yes he's good), Jaiswal, Jurel, Sarfraz etc.

Gill has more than enough tools to find success In ODI and Test cricket so I'd say he's not overhyped by any means. He might fail in swinging conditions like England but he had shown enough in his debut away series in Australia. I still remember how he spanked Starc at the Gabba.

For the next 12-15 months, T-20 is not important. So all focus should be on the Test series (Home season and BGT) and CT.

Rana could be a good option but in limited overs only, Siraj is a workhorse in test cricket and it's hard to replace him.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 10, 2024, 01:28:29 PM

Having said that, our batters do have a problem against spin in the test but It didn't come out in the open much in the white ball cricket and this series changed that so clearly need to work on that. Gill is blue eyed boy so he'll get a long rope, at the same time window is slightly open for Jaiswal in the next 3 matches (before CT).

Bumrah and Shami will make a comeback in the ICC tournament so not worried about the bowling department much.

India claims that they were the better players of spin than anyone else but this series really proved that they will fumble on decent spinning tracks too so India should discuss more about approaching in terms of techniques in their batting because all those LBW and Bowled are point of concerns.

I still don't know why Gill is so much special. Roll Eyes

If we take Bumrah and Shami their own seam attack is obsolete and they could have tried guy like Haristh Rana instead of giving game time for Siraj.

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It's been a while and no one discussed about the humiliating defeat by SL after 27 years. GG era began with bang in T20I but in ODI we got completely destroyed by a team that has only 3 batters, what a pathetic batting display by Indians except Rohit who always been an exception in any condition.

Will they drop Gill after this? Clearly there are better contenders for that position in ODI.

Your thoughts?

It is too early to comment on GG and what he is trying to achieve. Do remember RD lost the 50 overs WC but thankfully won the 20 overs WC. It is too early to think about the outcome from GG. We cannot forget that he coached the team to win in the T20 bilateral series against Srilanka. Net 41 days we don't the Indian team will rest and then they will be playing another series.

I am not complaining though, I just pointed how media turns things quickly after one bad series. GG is definitely one of the best and he would approach in more aggresive way so the players should be also in the same kind to get better outcomes.

Also, I read the current supporting staff doesn't include any batting coach which means head coach is gonna oversee everything?

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on August 10, 2024, 03:56:01 AM

It's been a while and no one discussed about the humiliating defeat by SL after 27 years. GG era began with bang in T20I but in ODI we got completely destroyed by a team that has only 3 batters, what a pathetic batting display by Indians except Rohit who always been an exception in any condition.

Will they drop Gill after this? Clearly there are better contenders for that position in ODI.

Your thoughts?

It is too early to comment on GG and what he is trying to achieve. Do remember RD lost the 50 overs WC but thankfully won the 20 overs WC. It is too early to think about the outcome from GG. We cannot forget that he coached the team to win in the T20 bilateral series against Srilanka. Net 41 days we don't the Indian team will rest and then they will be playing another series.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on August 10, 2024, 03:56:01 AM

It's been a while and no one discussed about the humiliating defeat by SL after 27 years. GG era began with bang in T20I but in ODI we got completely destroyed by a team that has only 3 batters, what a pathetic batting display by Indians except Rohit who always been an exception in any condition.

Will they drop Gill after this? Clearly there are better contenders for that position in ODI.

Your thoughts?

India is a bilateral bully so it won't hurt much if they lose a few here and there. In recent times, they've lost only 3 white ball series, each against AUS, BAN, and now SL.

There are 2 types of narratives, one is when India wins any bilateral then these series are called useless but when they lose, everyone seems to upset with the team.

Having said that, our batters do have a problem against spin in the test but It didn't come out in the open much in the white ball cricket and this series changed that so clearly need to work on that. Gill is blue eyed boy so he'll get a long rope, at the same time window is slightly open for Jaiswal in the next 3 matches (before CT).

Bumrah and Shami will make a comeback in the ICC tournament so not worried about the bowling department much.

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It's been a while and no one discussed about the humiliating defeat by SL after 27 years. GG era began with bang in T20I but in ODI we got completely destroyed by a team that has only 3 batters, what a pathetic batting display by Indians except Rohit who always been an exception in any condition.

Will they drop Gill after this? Clearly there are better contenders for that position in ODI.

Your thoughts?

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Quote from: Bureau on July 13, 2024, 09:37:32 PM

Did anyone watched the WCL final between India and Pakistan? India won the finals by defeating Pakistan again comfortably. Yusuf Pathan phenomenal batting down the order made the win look simple. Another cup for India after the T20 Cup. The Indian team under the captaincy of Shubman Gill has also won the T20 series against Zimbabwe. They made a good comeback after a shaky start.

I missed it dear, I never expected a team unfit to win the trophy! Another achievement accomplished and now it makes me believe that Pakistan matches are a waste against India. We now need to focus on only Australia & England, if we want to win all the ICC tournaments. Pakistan as their economy is now out of everything that we thought was a challenge. I guess these guys who are active on Pakistan news media will again come up with a stupid explanation as to why they lost the Legends cricket trophy. That is what they have been doing for years after being repeatedly defeated by the Indian cricket teams, and it continues with another humiliating defeat.

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Did anyone watched the WCL final between India and Pakistan? India won the finals by defeating Pakistan again comfortably. Yusuf Pathan phenomenal batting down the order made the win look simple. Another cup for India after the T20 Cup. The Indian team under the captaincy of Shubman Gill has also won the T20 series against Zimbabwe. They made a good comeback after a shaky start.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 11, 2024, 09:19:35 PM

^^ It was a pipe dream for PCB and it'll remain the same.

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Met with an accident while I was on my two wheeler. That bastard cab driver hit my scooty from behind. Thanks to lord almighty I was wearing a helmet the accident could have been fatal. This incident happened before the finals and in the day time. I have wounds that are not serious and that is the reason I am not active on the local board.

Oh Boy! Just glad that you are fine and recovering well. One needs to be extra careful when driving on Indian roads be it intercity or highways and most importantly leave ego at home at least in Delhi-NCR.

Thanks for your concern and advise, highly appreciated. PCB dream again getting shattered. They will again complain about BCCI's bulky behaviour to ICC and will get nothing. Pakistan dream of making good money from Indian games again going into the drains. I wonder why Australia has not come up with security concern?

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