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Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.
You are right that Indonesia is a Muslim country and the majority of the people of Indonesia are Muslim. But before blocking gambling by the government why and how the gove allowed gambling in the country? Do they never allowed gambling in Indonesia?
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The problem today is that so many gambling sites and applications are being created almost every day. They mostly use the JILI provider slot games and they keep on creating new sites like it's different from the first one. I even bumped to one of them which came from Indonesia itself, I don't know if it's real or they are just trying to confuse the players and the authorities on where the true origin of the platform is.

Anyway, it's illegal in Indonesia but we have seen how new internet applications can bypass this and I don't think that their government has the best technology to stop it all. It's not like they have control over the whole internet. What they can only do is minimize the damage.
Yeah there are tons of gambling sites and applications created every day. It's surprising they want to trust these random sites with suspicious domain name let's say toto874.vip betgogo93249.org, win777slot.link etc.

I will never trust to these kind random domain name except the official sites make sure it's a mirror link.

It's dangerous because if the gamblers get scammed by the casino, they will not able to report to the casinos because it's just like admitting themselves to be jailed.
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
By the time of this post, I believe you've already had the Indonesian experience, don't forget to send my Indonesian gift. Smiley

Jokes aside, Indonesia is not gambling-friendly, it's Muslim majority, but banning a certain establishment, network, domain etc. without banning all of them in the industry must surely have a reason. The DuckDuckGo is no search engine compared to the bigger ones like Google, so I'm sure that nothing will come out of DuckDuckGo that Google would not also bring out, except that there might be some kind of misinformation or misrepresentation or lack of filtered gambling results or worse, just as porn was included. As you know the DuckDuckGo search engine is always preferred by some privacy and anonymous browsers/networks, which could lead to the issue. What Google will not honour from an IP from the country, DuckDuckGo would display it.
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Indo people are known from their religious beliefs and considering their beliefs, gambling is rampant and so is porn and all the others. I dont think any of them is bad as long moderation is done, but I guess governments have to do something instead of doing nothing to show that they are serious about controlling the bad habits when clearly religious indoctrination is not enough.

However this does sound like a lot of people are going to learn how to bypass government banning tactics, which are futile at best.
The problem today is that so many gambling sites and applications are being created almost every day. They mostly use the JILI provider slot games and they keep on creating new sites like it's different from the first one. I even bumped to one of them which came from Indonesia itself, I don't know if it's real or they are just trying to confuse the players and the authorities on where the true origin of the platform is.

Anyway, it's illegal in Indonesia but we have seen how new internet applications can bypass this and I don't think that their government has the best technology to stop it all. It's not like they have control over the whole internet. What they can only do is minimize the damage.
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Indo people are known from their religious beliefs and considering their beliefs, gambling is rampant and so is porn and all the others. I dont think any of them is bad as long moderation is done, but I guess governments have to do something instead of doing nothing to show that they are serious about controlling the bad habits when clearly religious indoctrination is not enough.

However this does sound like a lot of people are going to learn how to bypass government banning tactics, which are futile at best.
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I knew about them being strongly against porn, but I had no idea they were so strict against gambling too.
And from the link you posted, it's doesn't look good at all because a whole lot of other things are restricted
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The government has previously blocked numerous pornography sites, Reddit, and Vimeo, and imposed temporary or partial restrictions on Tumblr, Telegram, TikTok, Netflix, and Badoo.
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Reddit, Telegram and Tiktok are also restricted. I understand the banning of porn because they said there was so much child porn and sex trafficking going on in the country, but banning other things like this is extreme.
And since it's majorly a Muslim country, I doubt you'll find any legal casino houses in Indonesia.

This is problem with restrictions. Once it's allowed, it can easily be extreme. Banning pornography seemed okay because there was a reasonable reason, but since that is allowed, other restrictions will begin to take place.
Restricting one search engine might just open a way for more search engines to be banned.
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Some disclosures have been made... the casino servers are located outside and the casinos are instead operated in their own country.... But this is not clear because there has been no definitive disclosure.

Now anyone who promotes gambling on their social media will be arrested including some artists and influencers they have been arrested.

If gambling is illegal by law then being in the authority doesn't change the fact it's illegal and I understand in reality they can operate them under the radar but still if the get caught they are going to be facing whatever the punishment for operating casino illegally. And about online casinos it's the responsibility of the government to monitor those kind of things like casino have office somewhere but still manages to operate inside the restricted country and I guess as banning them from search engine is just a part of doing their job too.
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The gambling industry in Indonesia is quite large, and most of these gambling providers are directly backed by police/army generals, so their subordinates cannot take firm action against these gambling providers because they have paid security money to their generals. So it is no wonder that the gambling industry is thriving in Indonesia behind the scenes, because they are directly backed by high-ranking officials here and no one has been able to take action against them until now.
This conspiracy has existed for a long time, that some online gambling in Indonesia is controlled by several generals or high-ranking officials in the government.

Some disclosures have been made... the casino servers are located outside and the casinos are instead operated in their own country.... But this is not clear because there has been no definitive disclosure.

Now anyone who promotes gambling on their social media will be arrested including some artists and influencers they have been arrested.
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I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.

Lol, and so it seems that gambling as well is everywhere in Indonesia? And most likely this is the reasons why the government at least wanted to block the popular engine because many Indonesians are really into gambling. But wait, if the policeman can play slots in his cellphone, then most likely there could be some local 3rd party that facilitate gambling itself?

I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.

The gambling industry in Indonesia is quite large, and most of these gambling providers are directly backed by police/army generals, so their subordinates cannot take firm action against these gambling providers because they have paid security money to their generals. So it is no wonder that the gambling industry is thriving in Indonesia behind the scenes, because they are directly backed by high-ranking officials here and no one has been able to take action against them until now.
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Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.
You are correct that those where most of the people of a c country are Muslims they can't allow their pupils to engage in gambling. And that's why the Indonesian Govt blocked gambling I think as there are almost all the people are Muslim. However, they recited something about tax.
Yes this country is a country that has the most Muslims, and that is indeed the strongest reference why Indonesia has a ban on gambling, although we have a history in some areas gambling was legalized in the past but did not last long and gambling was later banned completely from operating in Indonesia, but even so there is always gambling that continues to operate in the country of Indonesia because it cannot be completely blocked, the performance of the ministry in this country is not so good in managing negativity and some gamblers can still access gambling without VPN at the same time to break in.
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Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.
For sure this would really be pertaining about into their muslim religion on which we know that gambling is really that prohibited but we do know that not all those muslims will really be abiding on what are those religion rules or whatever the scriptures would be saying on which there would really be still those individuals who would really be that continuing up to play despite of prohibition or totally not allowed.
If there would really be tons of complaints in regarding to this then it will really be hooking up into their governments ears and could impose ban.Banning out completely isnt something that could be possible
on which we know that when it comes into this aspect then this will really be that still could be accessed or really having those bypass when it comes to this manner. This is why there would really be
platforms which do block out a certain list of countries because of some regulation issues, on the moment that a certain player resided into that particular place then they would be having the full rights
on banning or blocking a certain user and there's nothing we can do about it since we had violated something. There's no way that we could be able to stop those people who do likes to gamble no matter what.
We do have TOR browser or using up some VPN for you to do so.
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Indonesia is a Muslim majority country and has a large Muslim population which is why they do not gamble according to their religious rules. Since it is illegal to play due to their religion, they do not place bets on gambling. However, even after the illegal declaration by the government, many gamble secretly and those who run the gambling sites are powerful people. When the police find there and try to take action, they get away with bribes. But directly you will not find gambling court in Indonesia. As such you will not get a license to operate a casino.
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Yes, that's right, any country if the majority is Muslim then gambling is prohibited because it is against the law based on its religion. It is only natural that Indonesia blocks gambling sites because the majority of Indonesian people have become heavy addicts, also with the many cases that have occurred with them experiencing misery even to the point of suicide cases caused by stress because of gambling, it proves that gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
So if OP wants to go to Indonesia, please go ahead, but there will be no gambling that can be done, maybe you can do it online because even though it is prohibited, there are still many people who do it online, for offline gambling there may be but the place is hidden, and no one knows when the unlucky time will arrive so it could be that when we visit offline gambling there are problems such as arrests or others, so it is better to consider it again first.
You are correct that those where most of the people of a c country are Muslims they can't allow their pupils to engage in gambling. And that's why the Indonesian Govt blocked gambling I think as there are almost all the people are Muslim. However, they recited something about tax.
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There's ton of ways and even just simply making use of a free VPN on which you could be able to make use on OPERA browser on which you could directly be able to visit sites that it is really that prohibited into your country. This is why there's no way that it would really be that completely be isolated into this case and there would really be those people who would really be that trying out to access things despite of such ban
or block. The cons on  here is that whenever you do get caught then for sure you would be suffering some penalties or even worst. The main question is, on how they would really be able to detect it out?
This is why there's no way that we would really be that getting rid into those people who would be tending out to access, on which this isnt really that something that isnt that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well.

There's no way for it to be completely blocked. Somehow on what the government had done on here does really shows that they do really care about into their citizens specially into gambling addiction.
Usually government wont really be minding about their citizen but rather they would really be preferring on having that getting huge revenue and taxation towards these business
rather than on minding about their citizens condition on which its really that something rare for government to do so.
People have much knowledge about breaking the block from the government and as you say, they can even use free VPN that is integrated in the browser. That is why they are difficult to stop their gambling activity because they can back to their smartphone while they are not doing anything and visit the casino. I see a man who sit down in a public area alone and use his smartphone and because I set nearly to him, I can see what is he doing.

I am shock that man playing slot game but I guess that is from local site and I don't know the name of the site. I don't know if he use VPN or use his provider but he is playing slot in a place where many people can see his activity with his smartphone.

I am sure the government can detect those who playing gambling. They have many ways to find that and with ISP provider help, they will get the data. But yes, the government will not too minding with their citizen because they can get what they want and as long as they still get that, they will not do something strictly because that will effect to their revenue.
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I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.

Many people still want access to gambling even if it's illegal in their country.

For Indonesia, gambling is illegal, and the law enforces fines and imprisonment, probably a fine for first-time offenders, and if they repeat, then imprisonment. But the real question is, how many have been jailed for violating this law? If very few or none, then people won’t be scared to gamble.

I believe the search engine you’re referring to is DuckDice. But it’s not just about the search engines; anyone can use a VPN to bypass ISP restrictions, making it difficult to monitor. It's important to be aware of the laws to be cautious while gambling and, at the same time, recognize the risks of gambling on casinos outside Indonesian jurisdiction, as the chance of getting scammed is high, and you won't be able to fight for your rights legally.
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.

Lol, and so it seems that gambling as well is everywhere in Indonesia? And most likely this is the reasons why the government at least wanted to block the popular engine because many Indonesians are really into gambling. But wait, if the policeman can play slots in his cellphone, then most likely there could be some local 3rd party that facilitate gambling itself?

I do not think that they could jail them though, perhaps what they wanted is to stop the access of any gambling sites that the Indonesian are using. But as per gamblers experience, whether the government try to block it or not, they are very resourceful and can find a way to still continue to gamble.
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.
Yes, it is funny to see that thing as police needs to avoids gambling and tell the people to stay away too. But police is human and they have curiosity so they can get attract to feel how if they are playing gambling. But what they did is wrong if they playing gambling in public area because many people will see what they do and they will critic that police.

Maybe the law is strict but people can find a way out to trick the law so they can still playing gambling without afraid if they are caught by the police. I guess those who caught will be punished but I am not sure if they catch an officers who have a high rank than them and punished them in to jail.
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.
Gambling is prohibited in Indonesia but gambling transaction in Indonesia is very huge even it can reach to hundreds of billions of IDR for each week and this is proven that although the government was attempts to block the gambling sites but it cannot stopped the people in this country to gambling and not only the police because i heard some of government officials also likes gambling and according to the statistics Indonesia is one of the countries with the highest gambling activity in Southeast Asia and mostly Indonesian people gambling using online casinos and the people at this country also very likes to playing slots so that's why if you asking to Indonesian people about what is their favourite gambling games and mostly they will answers slot game
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So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

I once saw a policeman here playing slots from their cellphone, and he seemed to enjoy it, very funny right? that's the picture of gambling law in Indonesia, even though there is a law that states that anyone who gambles will be punished, but in reality there are still people who gamble and are not punished, because the rules are not too strict. And more if the police really enforce the rules strictly, maybe the prison will be full of gamblers and that will be a new problem for the country.
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Blocking a search Engine because of gambling results is one of the worst things that the government of any country will do as there are allot of pressing matters that if the government turns it attention to will go a long way to solve and secondly it's also against the right of the citizens to restrict them of certain privilege

Lol, it could be that the government of Indonesia doesn't want gambling to their over the lives of the population, again as I have said before there are countries in their neighboring region has been gripping with gambling and most likely they don't want to be the next nation.

So how can you say that it's one of the worst thing that they do when it will stop or at least minimized gambling in their country? Besides, it's illegal and so they have every right to condemn gambling. Not sure though what will happen to those who are going to be caught playing or if there are individuals already who have been jailed in Indonesia because of illegal gambling.

The fact that a country minimizes gambling in their subjects and is dominated is normal for them to do that because they also do not want their subjects to become gamblers and turn their time to gambling because gambling is not really the focus of the people's attention.

Because we know what happens when gambling is not managed properly or correctly in every person's life, in fact, in the reality of life. And many have been damaged by gambling because of addiction to it.
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