Whether the government is happy or not, I believe this is the right decision because most of them are Muslims, and we know very well that they do not support such things according to their beliefs. And I think that's one reason why gambling is not promoted in their area, also out of respect for their beliefs. If you don't like or agree with the situation, there are many countries that welcome gambling.
Surely we know that not all countries support such things, and they also have the right to block attempts that violate their beliefs. That is why I'd never see any regrets about that decision, and I know that most people want what is happening as well.
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September 27, 2024, 01:44:42 AM
September 27, 2024, 12:16:23 AM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.
Not only some people can still access it, but there are many people who do and the ban in fact does not really eradicate gambling in their country. Because after all, basically the country is also part of the most corrupt countries so that the ban on gambling seems to have no real impact. So yes, it is not surprising when there are still many users from Indonesia from many online gambling platforms, because they still easily access them. With a reality like that, then I personally am not sure they really do the blocking, because maybe it's just an announcement because they only block only a few related sites, so they don't really eradicate and or block all of them.If we can trace many things about gambling in Indonesia, we can find various names of local fiat gambling sites and various types of gambling site advertising, isn't this very funny where Indonesia is country that has ban on gambling but there are many gambling sites and advertising there.
I had time to think about crypto gambling sites that could operate and be accessed in Indonesia, if there was money that was deposited for some kind of security and given to high-ranking people who had positions, then crypto-based gambling could be disguised to operate there because Indonesia has many residents who like to gamble, this is just kind of my perception and thinking because everything will be easier with money for the current era.
September 24, 2024, 12:26:07 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.
In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.
People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail.
But that doesn't stop some citizens to keep gambling because they know how to find the casino and the dealer. It is not easy to eradicate and explain to citizens to stay away from gambling because people are familiar with gambling from a long time ago.
That is why some underground casino still running their business because I heard that some high officials back up their operation. If the government really wants to eradicate gambling, it is not easy work to do because many sides will involve in that business.
related problems. Yes, its normal for us to think off that when it comes revenue then gambling could really give out that kind of possibility but it would really be that still according into them whether they would be focusing out on economic related things or they would really be that focusing for the sake of their citizens condition.
September 24, 2024, 11:26:26 AM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.
Not only some people can still access it, but there are many people who do and the ban in fact does not really eradicate gambling in their country. Because after all, basically the country is also part of the most corrupt countries so that the ban on gambling seems to have no real impact. So yes, it is not surprising when there are still many users from Indonesia from many online gambling platforms, because they still easily access them. With a reality like that, then I personally am not sure they really do the blocking, because maybe it's just an announcement because they only block only a few related sites, so they don't really eradicate and or block all of them.
September 24, 2024, 11:12:03 AM
Anything can be loyal and then not anymore one day. We will only get shocked about it especially if we are talking about gambling. It can be that they will now not gamble anymore because they realize that it was wrong or they will now be involved in it for some reasons. I just noticed that there is a word porn written there in the URL. So that means that porn is also included in the blockings?
It is both surprising and unsurprising. Surprising because porn must be normal now and not really being given an attention. Unsurprising because there are still people who are fully against it as they know what its effects to the person that are engaged on it. Why say that this news has dropped a bomb on you when at the same time you also said that you haven't been on this country yet?
If you aren't really from here then you should only calm down there. Though I see that you are trying to visit here. There must still be a lot of hot spots in this country if not casinos and you better check them out instead and if you are really into local gambling, then there are better places than that. We have the popular Las Vegas. Anyways, the news only said search engine. So maybe online gambling is only banned there and not the offline ones? Hmm...
It is both surprising and unsurprising. Surprising because porn must be normal now and not really being given an attention. Unsurprising because there are still people who are fully against it as they know what its effects to the person that are engaged on it. Why say that this news has dropped a bomb on you when at the same time you also said that you haven't been on this country yet?
If you aren't really from here then you should only calm down there. Though I see that you are trying to visit here. There must still be a lot of hot spots in this country if not casinos and you better check them out instead and if you are really into local gambling, then there are better places than that. We have the popular Las Vegas. Anyways, the news only said search engine. So maybe online gambling is only banned there and not the offline ones? Hmm...
September 22, 2024, 09:42:51 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.
In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.
People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail.
But that doesn't stop some citizens to keep gambling because they know how to find the casino and the dealer. It is not easy to eradicate and explain to citizens to stay away from gambling because people are familiar with gambling from a long time ago.
That is why some underground casino still running their business because I heard that some high officials back up their operation. If the government really wants to eradicate gambling, it is not easy work to do because many sides will involve in that business.
September 22, 2024, 09:23:50 PM
To be honest if you look at the past in our country, it was legalized gambling, but only in certain areas such as Batam and Jakarta, only that did not last long because the replacement of presidents and regional heads issued a decision that gambling should be abolished in my country, and yes in our country now gambling is prohibited very hard.
There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.
2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.
If I understood correctly Indonesia has blocked/banned gambling as they have not got the correct tax that they deserve. If yes I do not think they had taken perfect steps. If for tax then they should take necessary steps to take tax properly instead of banning/blocking the gambling site. There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.
2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.
September 22, 2024, 05:54:22 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.
In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.
People will always find a way how to go around the protocol of the government. And once the government realized that their law is already useless, that's when they will change their protocol and see if they can strict their citizens in another level. Also, if the government won't alter their decisions, we will see that its people will traverse a path that is not regulated by its government, and so black market will only prevail. And remember, there is premium VPN service these days. More than likely, some of its people who can afford are already enjoying such service and doing their gambling activities online without interruption.
Just look at the fact that their badminton team is popular over there, and it says, that this sports is a popular betting sports in their country. It means, they allowing some bookies to do their business. They may be strict because of Islamic laws but they are also allowing some form of gambling.
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September 22, 2024, 05:54:06 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time I commonly show myself round the local casinos.
“Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo has been blocked in Indonesia by its government after citizens reportedly complained about pornographic and online gambling content in its search results.”Not really that surprising considering that search results include not only gambling content. It is a lot easier, and makes sense even, to block the platform if it is full of content the government would not want generally. Plus, it’s not unprovoked either many have complained.
I don’t know where you got the impression that Indonesia is “loyal” to gambling. Regardless of religious beliefs of a country, I think any country would take extra precautions over a platform that shows pornography and others.
September 22, 2024, 05:50:54 PM
It is done because gambling is illegal in their country although some people may still operate gambling underground and the search engine may also be used to access online gambling sites and also pornography sites that's why they blocked the duckduckgo search engine. I am sure many people will bypass it or find a solution to access the sites that they wanted to access like gambling sites for example and other platforms.
September 22, 2024, 05:45:13 PM
In my opinion, the idea of visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.
A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.
In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).
Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
To be honest if you look at the past in our country, it was legalized gambling, but only in certain areas such as Batam and Jakarta, only that did not last long because the replacement of presidents and regional heads issued a decision that gambling should be abolished in my country, and yes in our country now gambling is prohibited very hard.A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.
In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).
Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
There were many attempts to block online casinos in my country but there were thousands of them and the ministries in my country were quite overwhelmed or maybe I want to say that they were not able to solve it and until now there are still many local gambling operations that can be accessed without using a VPN.
2022-2024 will be a bad year for this country, a large amount of money is spinning in gambling without providing tax revenue to the state, of course this cannot be tolerated, besides that gambling reaches children and has the potential to damage the nation's generation, that's why the blocking still continues even though it is slow.
September 22, 2024, 05:38:04 PM
Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup. They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.
Keeping in mind Indonesia in a muslin majority country and their government seems to follow the sharia law to sole extent, then I would not be surprised if they started to prosecute those who are found to be using tools like VPNs to avoid the blockage the country has on casinos and other gambling services.
Anyways, I have always thought if someone really wants to gamble from a country where it is forbiden, then thanks to the internet they will find a way. All it takes is to be informed enough on the tools which offer anonymity and how to be used properly.
Also, needless to say those Indonesians who manage to hit some jackpot while gambling on some casino (which still welcomes them) won't have to pay taxes to the government, but st the same time they will have a hard time explaining the source of the money to police.
September 22, 2024, 04:56:41 PM
I don't think Indonesia was ever a gambling-friendly country based on their religion, as they are among the Muslim countries that I have read of that take their religious beliefs very seriously, so if you check the reason for the search engine access blockage, it was not just because of gambling, but pornography ads were also part of the reason.
Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.
Indonesia is known as a populous Muslim country in the world so gambling cannot be legalized according to Indonesian religion. Moreover, gambling cannot take place in Muslim-majority countries. According to the prevailing laws of our country, gambling is completely prohibited and no one can set up a gambling establishment outside the government's order. Gambling and pornography are illegal in most Muslim areas; it will be better if some of the citizens here can shed more light on how seriously they take this, and in such a country, I doubt if you can ever find a legal land-based casino there that you can visit.
September 22, 2024, 04:52:49 PM
In my opinion, the idea of visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.
Do not visit Indonesia to play gambling as it is strictly prohibited here, no tourist visits Indonesia to play gambling.If you want to be safer to play gambling then you have to go to Singapore or Las Vegas in the west.
A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.
There are no land-based casinos in Indonesia... But for online casinos many citizens can still access because they use VPN services but if caught then it will obviously face legal problems.In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).
That's right, any form of gambling without exception is totally prohibited.Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.
Honestly until now I to access gambling sites must use a VPN otherwise it cannot be accessed, some WIFI services with their ISPs have blocked any gambling sites. September 22, 2024, 04:18:49 PM
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens.
I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.
In any Islamic country, the government of that country does not allow gambling as ell as pornographic. As a Muslim country same happened for Indonesia. And to check the sites/posts about pornographic govt can know easily and they do not need to check manually. I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.
September 22, 2024, 04:09:16 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO.
Probably they are happy.And you're right, citizens will continue to violate and escape that rule. It's easy for them to continue gambling and this is just a search engine.
In actuality, it should be gambling websites if they want to fight it on.
September 22, 2024, 03:49:02 PM
Are they really happy with this decision because sooner or later restricting gambling activity in some countries will be so rare because if citizens keep violating the rules why not restructure the rule IMO. Indonesian Still love to participate in different gambling activities making people go extra miles gambling etc, the issue with DuckDuckGo is surprising because people actually made those search so what’s the point blocking their service. Citizens will always make those search either from another source or are they going to always block and block, I also don’t know Indonesia are this strict with gambling law but after my research it’s difficult seeing gambling activity friendly free.
September 22, 2024, 12:47:54 PM
Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time I commonly show myself round the local casinos.
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens. I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.
September 22, 2024, 12:40:45 PM
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They just force one mans belief on everyone in their country. Imagine the foreigners who decided to stay there for some time, they will also bt affected by these little decisions made to govern their own people.. sometimes it's just best to let Everyman chose fro him self. Religion is mean to be a choice and my own personal view not something imposed on me by someone who thinks his own life style is what is closest to the maker.. gambling is fun and anyone can gamble if they want placing banned on too many economic needs will only withdraw population from their country..You are free to choose any religion in Indonesia, but you must comply with the applicable rules which regulate many things. This applies to any country you visit, not just gambling, Indonesia also regulates that Bitcoin and foreign currencies are prohibited from being legal means of payment. You must convert any currency to Indonesian fiat before you use it as a means of payment.
September 22, 2024, 12:20:38 PM
The Indonesian government banned free Vpn services to encourage paid vpn services. In as much as they didn't ban VPN entirely in the country they'll have a means of monetizing VPN providers, which could be the reason behind allowing citizens to pay for subscription, before gambling. Moreover, their rules wouldn't eradicate gambling, but it will reduce online gambling activities in the country.
I could not agree with you that free VPNs should be banned to promote paid VPNs. Hence the free VPN has been banned to reduce online gambling. As paid VPN might be traceable by the government through the payment gateway or any other source but for a free VPN there is nothing like that. Jump to: