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Cheesy Well it's official, I just saw the email from PSA that I've been waiting for (took forever to PoP)....my Cryptocurrency Brooklyn Back just got a  Big Fat 10 Grade!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I wish everyone good fortune with the PSA grading process  Cheesy

So very thrilled right now.

Pop the bubbly. that is great news for sure.  Haven't seen any around for a month or so.  With only 25, i guess it is no surprise.
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 Cheesy Well it's official, I just saw the email from PSA that I've been waiting for (took forever to PoP)....my Cryptocurrency Brooklyn Back just got a  Big Fat 10 Grade!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I wish everyone good fortune with the PSA grading process  Cheesy

So very thrilled right now.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-and-Ginter-X-black-mini-parallel-Cryptocurrency-SP/132901033153?hash=item1ef184d4c1:g:J5wAAOSw8W1bhVME:rk:2:pf:0

My opinion only is that this is the Michael Jordan of non sportscards and like all cards the more rare and higher the grade the higher the value.  Looking forward to 2019 releases Shocked
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If anyone that has gone back through their sportscards while looking at their crypto cards I am a definate buyer for a Kings of the city Michael Jordan/Gale Sayers KC06.  Here was the rare print run.  Total of 15 produced plus 4 printing plates.  Will post a photo later
https://www.beckett.com/search/?term=kings+of+the+city+michael+jordan

Thanks all

legendary
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Thanks Chris, appreciate it! That's quite a few 10's! Tongue
legendary
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I am not familar with the population reports. How are the large black X #83 cards grading? I have a 8 and a 9 already. Any 10's out there yet? Tongue

Thanks!

As of today, PSA has graded a total of 48 full-sized Ginter X cards.

The grades are as follows:

PSA8 — 8
PSA8.5 — 1
PSA9 — 26
PSA10 — 13

Regards,
Chris
legendary
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I am not familar with the population reports. How are the large black X #83 cards grading? I have a 8 and a 9 already. Any 10's out there yet? Tongue

Thanks!

sr. member
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If I get lucky enough to get that silver....I promise we will find out how much it goes for!  Grin

 Smiley
legendary
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The high grades that are achieved on older desired cards always bring a high premium since there was virtually no quality control .  For our newer crypto cards a grade of 10 is almost a must on the common cards and on the rarer ginter x mini's a high premium would be expected especially on the mini black.  There will be a few that grade at 10 but, I think they will go in the 3k to 4k range or higher.  I currently think the red mini is in the 4k to 6k range and a grade 10 will probably move it into the 12k to 14k range and the silver will be held so I doubt we will see a price on it.

I read on the baseball card forums that the average new, pack-pulled card is about an 8.5 grade. The 9 grade is a small (arbitrary) bump from the average new card, but the 10 grade is better than the average new card, which is why it's so coveted.

Most serious baseball card collectors seem to feel like PSA9 is an excellent grade, and many collectors say that PSA7-8 grades are so close to the PSA10 grades (difficult to tell any differences with the naked eye) that all they collect are PSA7-9 grade cards. (And that saves them money to buy more cards!)

Personally, I'll chase the PSA10 grades, but I'm thrilled to own a PSA8-9 grade too. Smiley

Regards,
Chris
legendary
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If I get lucky enough to get that silver....I promise we will find out how much it goes for!  Grin
sr. member
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The high grades that are achieved on older desired cards always bring a high premium since there was virtually no quality control .  For our newer crypto cards a grade of 10 is almost a must on the common cards and on the rarer ginter x mini's a high premium would be expected especially on the mini black.  There will be a few that grade at 10 but, I think they will go in the 3k to 4k range or higher.  I currently think the red mini is in the 4k to 6k range and a grade 10 will probably move it into the 12k to 14k range and the silver will be held so I doubt we will see a price on it.
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Becketts will cost you more, and I can't remember if putting corner grades, centering, and the like, is always on the fronts of the cards, or if you pay for that privilege...collectors like it, and swarm to get the cream of the crop... I sincerely do not think that you'll do better. Unfortunately.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/SHOHEI-OHTANI-2018-BOWMAN-CHROME-RC-ROOKIE-AUTOGRAPH-ANGELS-AUTO-BGS-9-5-GEM-10-/352540443638?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=bUL%252FJLhOZEBQ2qH6m2I9LIHHQ0Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc



https://www.ebay.com/itm/MONSTER-2018-Topps-Chrome-SHOHEI-OHTANI-Orange-RC-25-Auto-BLACK-LABEL/292845642247?hash=item442ef5e207:g:MxYAAOSwYh9cAtaO:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true


*Some research on Becketts pricing tiers could give a definitive answer, of course. I simply do not remember all the Becketts info.
pt
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So...I just searched the population report on PSA, specifically regarding the Ginter X black mini cards, and the results are interesting.

According to the current pop report, a total of 16 non-cryptocurrency black mini cards have been graded. Of those 16 black mini cards, 11 received the high grade of PSA10. That's a whopping 68.75% of the total population of all non-#83 black mini cards! By that average, at least 6 (or 6.1875, to be accurate) of the registered 9 cryptocurrency cards in the pop report should have received the same high grade of PSA10. Strangely, there is not a single PSA10 cryptocurrency card. WTF?!?

Why are all the other black mini cards receiving the highest grades, but not the cryptocurrency card?

I recall reading in a baseball forum that some collectors suggest that the grading companies know which cards are the most desired/expensive, and they grade those cards a lot stricter than any other cards in an effort to keep the 10-grade population low (which helps to control/regulate the collectibles market).

I don't know if that theory is true, but I do find it quite disturbing that of those 9 graded cryptocurrency cards, an average of 6 should have received a high grade of PSA10, but not a single card received that grade. Again...WTF?!?

Confused,
Me

Yes. the mini ginter x black ones should 4 10s at least.  i sent in 22 of the BIG ginter x and got 6 10s!  Something is not right.



I would like to see what a Mini X would come back graded from beckett. The one I sent to PSA looked perfect to me and came back a 9.
copper member
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So...I just searched the population report on PSA, specifically regarding the Ginter X black mini cards, and the results are interesting.

According to the current pop report, a total of 16 non-cryptocurrency black mini cards have been graded. Of those 16 black mini cards, 11 received the high grade of PSA10. That's a whopping 68.75% of the total population of all non-#83 black mini cards! By that average, at least 6 (or 6.1875, to be accurate) of the registered 9 cryptocurrency cards in the pop report should have received the same high grade of PSA10. Strangely, there is not a single PSA10 cryptocurrency card. WTF?!?

Why are all the other black mini cards receiving the highest grades, but not the cryptocurrency card?

I recall reading in a baseball forum that some collectors suggest that the grading companies know which cards are the most desired/expensive, and they grade those cards a lot stricter than any other cards in an effort to keep the 10-grade population low (which helps to control/regulate the collectibles market).

I don't know if that theory is true, but I do find it quite disturbing that of those 9 graded cryptocurrency cards, an average of 6 should have received a high grade of PSA10, but not a single card received that grade. Again...WTF?!?

Confused,
Me

Yes. the mini ginter x black ones should 4 10s at least.  i sent in 22 of the BIG ginter x and got 6 10s!  Something is not right.
sr. member
Activity: 1792
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The total count now on the ginter x black mini that have been graded stands at 10. no PSA 10's yet.  Looks like the blades were a little dull when cutting the #83 mini's, oh well.
legendary
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Yeah, I probably will send a batch in at some point. I have never sent in any, so It will be a new experience for me... Tongue
legendary
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I was looking over ebay PSA graded black minis and I saw a few 10's for regular players, so I think you are correct.

Yeah, I went straight to the source with the most current numbers, and the numbers don't lie. Approximately 69% of the 9 graded cryptocurrency black mini cards should be PSA10. It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside a baseball card. Huh
 
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I do have one I would send in but I can see one corner has a very small bump on it so I may just keep it ungraded... :shrug:

It may still get a PSA8 or PSA9. And if no cryptocurrency cards receive a PSA10, then the PSA9 is the best of the best! Grade that sweet 83! Grin

Regards,
Chris
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
So...I just searched the population report on PSA, specifically regarding the Ginter X black mini cards, and the results are interesting.

According to the current pop report, a total of 16 non-cryptocurrency black mini cards have been graded. Of those 16 black mini cards, 11 received the high grade of PSA10. That's a whopping 68.75% of the total population of all non-#83 black mini cards! By that average, at least 6 (or 6.1875, to be accurate) of the registered 9 cryptocurrency cards in the pop report should have received the same high grade of PSA10. Strangely, there is not a single PSA10 cryptocurrency card. WTF?!?

Why are all the other black mini cards receiving the highest grades, but not the cryptocurrency card?

I recall reading in a baseball forum that some collectors suggest that the grading companies know which cards are the most desired/expensive, and they grade those cards a lot stricter than any other cards in an effort to keep the 10-grade population low (which helps to control/regulate the collectibles market).

I don't know if that theory is true, but I do find it quite disturbing that of those 9 graded cryptocurrency cards, an average of 6 should have received a high grade of PSA10, but not a single card received that grade. Again...WTF?!?

Confused,
Me

I was looking over ebay PSA graded black minis and I saw a few 10's for regular players, so I think you are correct. The only other option, ie. Topps diddling with the stock etc etc ... just doesn't seem like it would be right...   Huh

confused as well... I do have one I would send in but I can see one corner has a very small bump on it so I may just keep it ungraded... :shrug:
legendary
Activity: 2676
Merit: 2203
BitcoinPenny.com
So...I just searched the population report on PSA, specifically regarding the Ginter X black mini cards, and the results are interesting.

According to the current pop report, a total of 16 non-cryptocurrency black mini cards have been graded. Of those 16 black mini cards, 11 received the high grade of PSA10. That's a whopping 68.75% of the total population of all non-#83 black mini cards! By that average, at least 6 (or 6.1875, to be accurate) of the registered 9 cryptocurrency cards in the pop report should have received the same high grade of PSA10. Strangely, there is not a single PSA10 cryptocurrency card. WTF?!?

Why are all the other black mini cards receiving the highest grades, but not the cryptocurrency card?

I recall reading in a baseball forum that some collectors suggest that the grading companies know which cards are the most desired/expensive, and they grade those cards a lot stricter than any other cards in an effort to keep the 10-grade population low (which helps to control/regulate the collectibles market).

I don't know if that theory is true, but I do find it quite disturbing that of those 9 graded cryptocurrency cards, an average of 6 should have received a high grade of PSA10, but not a single card received that grade. Again...WTF?!?

Confused,
Me
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The 2018 Topps Allen Ginter sub set, 1/1 cards Topps Vault Sub-Set Historical Events , all have been sold for $1209.54 collectively. They are: Solar Eclipse, Samsong Park, Maine National Park, Bullpen Car, Cyclone Bomb, and last but NOT least the Cryptocurrency triple card. Congratulations if you were lucky enough to get any of these  Smiley


Solar Eclipse  $412.00
Samsong Park $ 56.99
Cyclone Bomb $ $52;00
Marine National Monument $ 54.00
Bullpen Car  $ 24.55
Cryptocurrency $610.00



https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Noah-Syndergaard-METS-/202500660010?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-amp-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Mike-Trout-ANGELS-/352540374341?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=bUL%252FJLhOZEBQ2qH6m2I9LIHHQ0Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-amp-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Gary-Sanchez-YANKEES-/192752411392?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=bUL%252FJLhOZEBQ2qH6m2I9LIHHQ0Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Ian-Happ-CUBS/192731437524?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-amp-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Lou-Gehrig-YANKEES-/352516727213?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=bUL%252FJLhOZEBQ2qH6m2I9LIHHQ0Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Allen-amp-Ginter-3-Card-Mini-Strip-Cryptocurrency-/352512775973?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=bUL%252FJLhOZEBQ2qH6m2I9LIHHQ0Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

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