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Quote from: r1s2g3 on May 25, 2019, 06:35:46 PM

If somebody just posted a infographics with a link then you can report it as low quality post. Mods generally trash these threads (from my personal experience.)

For sure, and I have spent plenty of time reporting people who just spam news articles they didn't write without a single original thought just to farm their account. The posts are deleted, but the user doesn't actually suffer any punishment.

in word of thread starting I do understand .....

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Quote from: El duderino_ on May 25, 2019, 06:47:34 PM

Sometimes the posted thing could be a question as well, just to know how other respecter members thinking about that matter, so isn't it better to post it like that with a link rather then making it up yourself?

Sure, but I think the OP should at least be including a sentence or two, even if it's something simply along the lines of "I read this and found it interesting because of x/y/z. Keen to hear what other people think about it."

True your absolutely right.... (the again sometimes @ the WO things end up there, but thats more like a happy bullish quote or thing to cheer @ Cheesy

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I'm also absolutely guilty of sharing something über bullish add the WO with a link provided, but I just don't do it else wear.... (sometimes its just important to know where and when as well....)

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 26, 2019, 03:24:21 AM

<…>Sure, but I think the OP should at least be including a sentence or two, even if it's something simply along the lines of "I read this and found it interesting because of x/y/z. Keen to hear what other people think about it."

That how I see it too. This week I’ve come across a couple of threads started in the Beginners & Help section that were a verbatim copy/paste with a link to the source at the bottom of the post. On neither of the occasions did the OP come back to the thread to provide any thoughts or comments whatsoever, but they did happily collect the stray merits provided to them.

It’s not plagiarism per se since the source is added, but it is often an intentional merit bait post from people who would never be able to phrase the content in such a way, and one would expect at least a pinch of personal thoughts thrown into the post. Perhaps there are boards/threads where it is part of the tradition with a long standing context to it, but seeing it on Beginners & Help, Bitcoin Discussion, on my local board, and other places seems rather much a lazy merit fishing expedition to me.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on May 25, 2019, 06:35:46 PM

If somebody just posted a infographics with a link then you can report it as low quality post. Mods generally trash these threads (from my personal experience.)

For sure, and I have spent plenty of time reporting people who just spam news articles they didn't write without a single original thought just to farm their account. The posts are deleted, but the user doesn't actually suffer any punishment.

Quote from: El duderino_ on May 25, 2019, 06:47:34 PM

Sometimes the posted thing could be a question as well, just to know how other respecter members thinking about that matter, so isn't it better to post it like that with a link rather then making it up yourself?

Sure, but I think the OP should at least be including a sentence or two, even if it's something simply along the lines of "I read this and found it interesting because of x/y/z. Keen to hear what other people think about it."

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Quote from: akamit on May 25, 2019, 02:29:25 PM

Plagiarism.org Go to the site to learn more about plagiarism.

It is comprehensive contents, but is not relevant here. In the forum, we should notice that definitions, rules, and punishments on plagiarism are flexible, or some kind of a bit different from the official definition of plagiarism. theymos, actually has his own approach to treat forum users whom plagiarised. In my opinion, it is the most appropriate to read what theymos's statements on plagiarism in the forum, as well as global moderators or forum staffs on this issue.
So, why not visit my topic, and get them? (Maybe, I missed some of them, and have not fully collected all posts on plagiarism made by admins, global moderators, or staffs; but I think from what I already collected, it is good enough to have overview on plagiarsim in the forum).
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
Beyond my topic, you can also get newest posts of theymos here: theymosisms - A collection of posts for reference

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Quote from: El duderino_ on May 25, 2019, 06:47:34 PM

Copy pasting good work (and providing useful LINK) from people that could contribute to a place isn't that bad imo, just know where to post such things and where to avoid, but if I see a good thing on twitter or somewhere, then I rather copy paste + provide a link then turn around the words and make it something of my own...
To find something that could lead to an interesting discussion isn't that bad imo, when I do such things I also only do it where its appreciated...

Sometimes the posted thing could be a question as well, just to know how other respecter members thinking about that matter, so isn't it better to post it like that with a link rather then making it up yourself?

Copy pasting for a sake of starting a discussion and adding your view is much different then the just copy paste image and put source link.
If forum allows this then their lot of user that just paste image/text and put source underneath. Mods always delete this post when reported.

Allowing these post will just flood bitcointalk from all kind of information from outside without any discussion happening in this forum.

But you will be always welcome to discuss the news/outside information if you really have to add something in it.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 25, 2019, 01:36:32 PM

I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

Without a source - definitely plagiarism. With a source - not plagiarism, but kind of scummy in my opinion.

Simply copy and pasting someone else's work, adding nothing of your own, and slapping a reference link on the bottom, whilst not plagiarism is pretty low behavior my opinion. You see it all the time across the forum; people posting entire news articles, blog posts, medium posts, etc., written by someone else, and not even adding a single sentence of their own thoughts. The same thing could happen with infographics, although it is much less common than the other categories I mentioned. Providing a source means they won't get banned, but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do and obviously only for padding post count and/or fishing for merits.

Edit: I accidentally a word

Copy pasting good work (and providing useful LINK) from people that could contribute to a place isn't that bad imo, just know where to post such things and where to avoid, but if I see a good thing on twitter or somewhere, then I rather copy paste + provide a link then turn around the words and make it something of my own...
To find something that could lead to an interesting discussion isn't that bad imo, when I do such things I also only do it where its appreciated...

Sometimes the posted thing could be a question as well, just to know how other respecter members thinking about that matter, so isn't it better to post it like that with a link rather then making it up yourself?

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 25, 2019, 02:06:33 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 25, 2019, 01:36:32 PM

I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

Without a source - definitely plagiarism. With a source - not plagiarism, but kind of scummy in my opinion.

Simply copy and pasting someone else's work, adding nothing of your own, and slapping a reference link on the bottom, whilst not plagiarism is pretty low behavior my opinion. You see it all the time across the forum; people posting entire news articles, blog posts, medium posts, etc., written by someone else, and not even adding a single sentence of their own thoughts. The same thing could happen with infographics, although it is much less common than the other categories I mentioned. Providing a source means they won't get banned, but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do and obviously only for padding post count and/or fishing for merits.

Edit: I accidentally a word

If somebody just posted a infographics with a link then you can report it as low quality post. Mods generally trash these threads (from my personal experience.)

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What do you think about infographics that have watermarks or stamps indicating where it came from or at least the website where you can find it? Does it get a free pass from users who haven't posted their sources or do you still count is a plagiarism as they haven't referenced the material in a proper way? Because most of the infographics I see are marked either by the name of their maker or website like this one.

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Lets not complicate things here if we start going after infographic thefts that means we have to go after image (picture) thefts too because most infographic information on the forum are in the form of images. For those infographic that have copyright or watermark (sorry don't know if that was the right word to use) but I means those infographic that have a form of identification of creator, if those type of infographic are edited, removing the creators identify in the process and rebroadcasted as theirs then that can be considered as plagiarism but for those who don't have a form of identity of creator, they can always be rebroadcast since the plagiarism rules on the forum isn't that strict on rebroadcasting of image on the forum. Although if those information were created by member of forum and they were gotten from forum then it's best to qoute the infographic directly from OP or it will be considered plagiarism.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 25, 2019, 01:36:32 PM

There's a lot of infographics that have been shared here. I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

Of course it is also part of plagiarism. Members most of the time get away with it because the no nonsence anti-plagiat bot can't detect this kind of plagiarism and also you can find lots of copies of images floating on the internet so it's sometimes hard to pinpoint the source of the image

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Plagiarism.org Go to the site to learn more about plagiarism.

According to Plagiarism.org, the punishment is quoted below. I found the information in this site.

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Most cases of plagiarism are considered misdemeanors, punishable by fines of anywhere between $100 and $50,000 — and up to one year in jail. Plagiarism can also be considered a felony under certain state and federal laws. For example, if a plagiarist copies and earns more than $2,500 from copyrighted material, he or she may face up to $250,000 in fines and up to ten years in jail.

It's a very dangerous thing...

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 25, 2019, 02:06:33 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 25, 2019, 01:36:32 PM

I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

Without a source - definitely plagiarism. With a source - not plagiarism, but kind scummy in my opinion.

Simply copy and pasting someone else's work, adding nothing of your own, and slapping a reference link on the bottom, whilst not plagiarism is pretty low behavior my opinion. You see it all the time across the forum people posting entire news articles, blog posts, medium posts, etc., written by someone else, and not even adding a single sentence of their own thoughts. The same thing could happen with infographics, although it is much less common than the other categories I mentioned. Providing a source means they won't get banned, but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do and obviously only for padding post count and/or fishing for merits.

Yeah, but still the forum itself is allowing that method. Many users are already doing it to gain activities, posts, and merits. It's the dumbest way to maintain themselves as good posters and the worse part here is doing it and gain some merits with less effort. That's my point when I've said earlier that this is the easiest way to receive something. A thread should have good content and discussion, I can't call this a thread if those posts aren't created by their own brain cells.

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Definition of plagiarism in English: The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plagiarism

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 25, 2019, 01:36:32 PM

I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

Without a source - definitely plagiarism. With a source - not plagiarism, but kind of scummy in my opinion.

Simply copy and pasting someone else's work, adding nothing of your own, and slapping a reference link on the bottom, whilst not plagiarism is pretty low behavior my opinion. You see it all the time across the forum; people posting entire news articles, blog posts, medium posts, etc., written by someone else, and not even adding a single sentence of their own thoughts. The same thing could happen with infographics, although it is much less common than the other categories I mentioned. Providing a source means they won't get banned, but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do and obviously only for padding post count and/or fishing for merits.

Edit: I accidentally a word

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Lately, a lot of users got banned because of plagiarizing some posts from other members and websites. There's a lot of infographics that have been shared here. I'm thinking if stealing of infographics with or without a source is considered as plagiarism?

It's a thing that only a few people can do and infographics are well made by graphic artist, it's not easy to create a good infographic without a sense of art. We can consider it as a thing or masterpiece of the owner, so we should ask for permission to use it in a topic/content right? Another thing is, it's kinda unfair for those who manually design their thread or creating their own infographics just to share info.

Infographics are very pleasing to the eye and complex information can be optimized to understand it easily through visuals. Creating infographics are the most effective way to introduce contents or information to a viewer. Now, Infographics are tools that might catch the attention of a user and the easiest way to receive a pleasant discussion or maybe bigger than that, you know what it is. I'm just wondering, still need thoughts of the others.

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