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Quote from: Kemarit on June 04, 2022, 10:06:49 PM

True, both of this fighters are way above the division. But we will see who is on top of the food chain. This fight will settle who is the best, Donaire will have his lasting legacy if he wins. But then again, we have the new and young generation coming at his tail like Inoue, who arguably the best bantamweight right now. But Nonito wanted to prove otherwise that he can still something in his gas tank.

This is Nonito's last chance to a shot at his dream, the unified belts. Not so easy but i think he got the chance if everything will work as planned, the timing on when to counter and land that left hook flush to the chin but if Inoue could avoid that all night long, then it is gonna over for the Filipino Flash.

No offense to fans of Butler here but I think he doesn't stand a chance to either Donaire or Inoue, he will be there because he got the WBO belt.

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Quote from: harizen on June 04, 2022, 07:48:05 PM

I just learned that the winner of this rematch between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire might face the new WBO Champion, Paul Butler.

Yes, because they want to unify all the belts and Butler happen to have the WBO, (in which Casimero used to hold).

Quote from: harizen on June 04, 2022, 07:48:05 PM

Honestly, and no offense to Paul Butler but I think he won't stand a chance at either of these two boxers. It's just that he becomes the last stage because he was newly crowned. Not underestimating Butler but I just can't stop saying some possible facts.

Anyhow, let's focus on Inoue vs Donaire first.

True, both of this fighters are way above the division. But we will see who is on top of the food chain. This fight will settle who is the best, Donaire will have his lasting legacy if he wins. But then again, we have the new and young generation coming at his tail like Inoue, who arguably the best bantamweight right now. But Nonito wanted to prove otherwise that he can still something in his gas tank.

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Quote from: harizen on June 04, 2022, 07:48:05 PM

I just learned that the winner of this rematch between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire might face the new WBO Champion, Paul Butler.

Honestly, and no offense to Paul Butler but I think he won't stand a chance at either of these two boxers. It's just that he becomes the last stage because he was newly crowned. Not underestimating Butler but I just can't stop saying some possible facts.

Anyhow, let's focus on Inoue vs Donaire first.

Thats because he fought Sultan which is the replacement of Casimero as far as i remember which i do even believe that he wont stood a chance against him and he might able to get that
WBO interim bantamweight title but just like on what you said that he wont stood a chance in both Donaire or Inoue i would say.If ever on whom he would be facing on after the fight
results then he should be prepared for that. Yeah, lets focus on Donaire vs Inoue fight which is really fast approaching yet days do run too fast.

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I just learned that the winner of this rematch between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire might face the new WBO Champion, Paul Butler.

Honestly, and no offense to Paul Butler but I think he won't stand a chance at either of these two boxers. It's just that he becomes the last stage because he was newly crowned. Not underestimating Butler but I just can't stop saying some possible facts.

Anyhow, let's focus on Inoue vs Donaire first.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 04, 2022, 02:27:24 PM

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Interesting take by Carl Frampton in this fight, he thinks that Nonito might have a change to pull an upset.

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“Inoue has got serious power, but Donaire has got a good chin and he has the ability to take shots and fire back. I would not be surprised if there was a shock on the cards in Japan. From the first fight, if anyone is going to have learnt and made the adjustments, then it’s Nonito. He’s been around this game a long, long time.”

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Frampton beat Donaire though, but they becomes friends. Carl retire last year after his one side lost beating from the hands of then champion Jamel Herring. So I guess him going with war with Donaire, he knows what the Filipino can bring in the table in this fight.

That is really not too far from reality because Donaire is much more dangerous know, I believe he is more prepared now than the 1st fight because he really have no idea at all what Inoue could bring and that the latter is just willing to take those punches and return a much more stronger punch. The chances of Donaire winning this upcoming fight is more greater.

I'm also hoping that I keep watching their last match and he really can take Inoue's punch and he can hit him but we are talking about fresh legs, he has a good chance in the early rounds but if the fight drags on, Inoue's fresh legs can take over Donaire's last two fights came via stoppage and it happened in the early rounds of the fight, Donaire is good at the early stage of the fight but with his age, his body can't keep up in the later rounds.

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Even if I'm not mistaken in judging this Donaire can be said to be one of the toughest opponents for Inoue because it's rare for him to fight like that, his face is crushed and he's even cornered in a few rounds.
talking about speed Inoue wants to maximize it more because he knows Donaire is an aggressive boxer and indeed it is very fast so he prefers to wait for that time

That really happened on that fight, that's why some people thought it's a contestant for fight of the year award.

By the way, if you are looking for the odds, it's already avaialble now, with a huge market.
You can check from sportsbet.

Donaire to win +400
Donaire by KO +580

Things like this are quite natural because it is certain that all eyes will be on this fight and this fight will definitely be awaited.
In any case Donaire is more tempting right now and indeed I've put my fighter in for this match and I'm pretty sure of my choice. btw thanks for recommending mate

I'm not recommending you to bet on Donaire, but in case you find it attractive maybe grab this wonder odds now. I love Donaire's chance here, it's a rematch and yet the odds are still very much attractive. Donaire by +580, I won't let this pass using my spare money. Grin

Also, check this out. Donaire 4-6, that's a good odds.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 04, 2022, 03:42:57 AM

Interesting take by Carl Frampton in this fight, he thinks that Nonito might have a change to pull an upset.

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“Inoue has got serious power, but Donaire has got a good chin and he has the ability to take shots and fire back. I would not be surprised if there was a shock on the cards in Japan. From the first fight, if anyone is going to have learnt and made the adjustments, then it’s Nonito. He’s been around this game a long, long time.”

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Frampton beat Donaire though, but they becomes friends. Carl retire last year after his one side lost beating from the hands of then champion Jamel Herring. So I guess him going with war with Donaire, he knows what the Filipino can bring in the table in this fight.

That is really not too far from reality because Donaire is much more dangerous know, I believe he is more prepared now than the 1st fight because he really have no idea at all what Inoue could bring and that the latter is just willing to take those punches and return a much more stronger punch. The chances of Donaire winning this upcoming fight is more greater.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 03, 2022, 06:08:41 PM

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Even if I'm not mistaken in judging this Donaire can be said to be one of the toughest opponents for Inoue because it's rare for him to fight like that, his face is crushed and he's even cornered in a few rounds.
talking about speed Inoue wants to maximize it more because he knows Donaire is an aggressive boxer and indeed it is very fast so he prefers to wait for that time

That really happened on that fight, that's why some people thought it's a contestant for fight of the year award.

By the way, if you are looking for the odds, it's already avaialble now, with a huge market.
You can check from sportsbet.

Donaire to win +400
Donaire by KO +580

Things like this are quite natural because it is certain that all eyes will be on this fight and this fight will definitely be awaited.
In any case Donaire is more tempting right now and indeed I've put my fighter in for this match and I'm pretty sure of my choice. btw thanks for recommending mate

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 09:19:42 AM

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Yeah, I've just watched one of his winning blows in one of his fights and it's hyping me again. That's why if he has said this and said that, he'll surely going to do something different this time and will do what he has said. It is the reason why many are counting on him but we're not belittling what Inoue can do. He's still the champ and is one who holds the title but, the fighting spirit that Donaire is showing to the public now is interesting and encouraging to believe on him.

Everyone is hype on this fight, specially on how Donaire seems to be getting his second win by beating 2 young champions and gives hope that maybe he can win against Inoue. And many are going to believed that he can accomplished this because he has the tools at his disposal.

he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

Yeah and I'm one of those people that believe that he can get this match. Although there's still some worry since Inoue can't be ignored as an opponent still, I'm confident that Donaire has this.
With all of those motivations that he's getting and the craving to compensate for his loss against Inoue, that's going to add to and fuel the fire that we can see on him.

The motivation is there but we have to understand also that Inoue is ranked number 1 in the bantamweight division, meaning he is the best here. Motivation with skills are both needed to beat the monster, and if Donaire could find a strategy that Inoue did not expect, then maybe that's the time we will see a big upset in this fight.

don't ignore Donaire, while Naoya is the favorite to win this rematch, and don't forget that Donaire has a lot of experience and for the next rematch will be more interesting. And he is also very ambitious to win the fight.
It will be an interesting battle full of strategy and tactics and I will not miss this fight.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 04, 2022, 08:56:59 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 04, 2022, 04:47:14 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 04, 2022, 04:17:25 AM

Yeah, I've just watched one of his winning blows in one of his fights and it's hyping me again. That's why if he has said this and said that, he'll surely going to do something different this time and will do what he has said. It is the reason why many are counting on him but we're not belittling what Inoue can do. He's still the champ and is one who holds the title but, the fighting spirit that Donaire is showing to the public now is interesting and encouraging to believe on him.

Everyone is hype on this fight, specially on how Donaire seems to be getting his second win by beating 2 young champions and gives hope that maybe he can win against Inoue. And many are going to believed that he can accomplished this because he has the tools at his disposal.

he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

Yeah and I'm one of those people that believe that he can get this match. Although there's still some worry since Inoue can't be ignored as an opponent still, I'm confident that Donaire has this.
With all of those motivations that he's getting and the craving to compensate for his loss against Inoue, that's going to add to and fuel the fire that we can see on him.

The motivation is there but we have to understand also that Inoue is ranked number 1 in the bantamweight division, meaning he is the best here. Motivation with skills are both needed to beat the monster, and if Donaire could find a strategy that Inoue did not expect, then maybe that's the time we will see a big upset in this fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 04, 2022, 04:47:14 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 04, 2022, 04:17:25 AM

Yeah, I've just watched one of his winning blows in one of his fights and it's hyping me again. That's why if he has said this and said that, he'll surely going to do something different this time and will do what he has said. It is the reason why many are counting on him but we're not belittling what Inoue can do. He's still the champ and is one who holds the title but, the fighting spirit that Donaire is showing to the public now is interesting and encouraging to believe on him.

Everyone is hype on this fight, specially on how Donaire seems to be getting his second win by beating 2 young champions and gives hope that maybe he can win against Inoue. And many are going to believed that he can accomplished this because he has the tools at his disposal.

he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

Yeah and I'm one of those people that believe that he can get this match. Although there's still some worry since Inoue can't be ignored as an opponent still, I'm confident that Donaire has this.
With all of those motivations that he's getting and the craving to compensate for his loss against Inoue, that's going to add to and fuel the fire that we can see on him.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 04, 2022, 06:57:31 AM

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he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

That's right. Nonito Donaire is really determined to avenge his loss against Naoya Inoue. He surely has lots of strategies on his mind now on how to match Inoue's skills where he based it on their first match. Those strategies might be on Donaire's mind for a long already after that loss and what he needs to do is to work his way until the rematch is possible to happen.

However, even though Donaire is determined to win, surely his opponent is also having the same mindset. Inoue already knows that Donaire is dangerous and surely there are new strategies that the Japanese are going to do to avoid those strong and quick punches from Donaire.

That's why I thought, though Inoue won in their last fight it was a clear downgrade of his performance, it was not his signature KO. This rematch, if Inoue will win, I won't expect a KO because that means he is not aggressive, but if Donaire wins, I expect a KO as he has to finish the fight in the first 6 rounds.

Have you guys already place your bets?

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 04, 2022, 04:47:14 AM

he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

That's right. Nonito Donaire is really determined to avenge his loss against Naoya Inoue. He surely has lots of strategies on his mind now on how to match Inoue's skills where he based it on their first match. Those strategies might be on Donaire's mind for a long already after that loss and what he needs to do is to work his way until the rematch is possible to happen.

However, even though Donaire is determined to win, surely his opponent is also having the same mindset. Inoue already knows that Donaire is dangerous and surely there are new strategies that the Japanese are going to do to avoid those strong and quick punches from Donaire.

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He's aiming for that and it's like his pride will be stepped in if he losses to him for the 2nd time around. Well, we're going to see how he's going to beat it as it's like a promise to himself and not to everyone that he'll win this time. We're all counting on him and we want him to beat Inoue and alas, they're tie and both had experienced the belt. No doubt about his records and the past but this time, it's different from there because he's beaten for the first match and this is a rematch that he shouldn't miss because if he losses, no more rematch.

Donaire has indeed a lot of accomplishments as a fighter. But perhaps this will be the biggest stage for him to win against a very tough opponent in Inoue.

He said in his interviews that he admits his mistakes on the first fight and promise that he won't the same mistakes again. Not sure what those mistakes are, but maybe he is too reluctant to engage before he is afraid that he will be caught coming inside with an overhand right from Inoue. But now Donaire is extra motivate and will take this challenge and go for a win.

Yeah, I've just watched one of his winning blows in one of his fights and it's hyping me again. That's why if he has said this and said that, he'll surely going to do something different this time and will do what he has said. It is the reason why many are counting on him but we're not belittling what Inoue can do. He's still the champ and is one who holds the title but, the fighting spirit that Donaire is showing to the public now is interesting and encouraging to believe on him.

Everyone is hype on this fight, specially on how Donaire seems to be getting his second win by beating 2 young champions and gives hope that maybe he can win against Inoue. And many are going to believed that he can accomplished this because he has the tools at his disposal.

he has the experienced and says that he learned from his previous lost. And that what makes Donaire very dangerous in the rematch. He is going to be extra motivated to the extend that he is willing to travel in Inoue's hometown to avenge his lost.

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He's aiming for that and it's like his pride will be stepped in if he losses to him for the 2nd time around. Well, we're going to see how he's going to beat it as it's like a promise to himself and not to everyone that he'll win this time. We're all counting on him and we want him to beat Inoue and alas, they're tie and both had experienced the belt. No doubt about his records and the past but this time, it's different from there because he's beaten for the first match and this is a rematch that he shouldn't miss because if he losses, no more rematch.

Donaire has indeed a lot of accomplishments as a fighter. But perhaps this will be the biggest stage for him to win against a very tough opponent in Inoue.

He said in his interviews that he admits his mistakes on the first fight and promise that he won't the same mistakes again. Not sure what those mistakes are, but maybe he is too reluctant to engage before he is afraid that he will be caught coming inside with an overhand right from Inoue. But now Donaire is extra motivate and will take this challenge and go for a win.

Yeah, I've just watched one of his winning blows in one of his fights and it's hyping me again. That's why if he has said this and said that, he'll surely going to do something different this time and will do what he has said. It is the reason why many are counting on him but we're not belittling what Inoue can do. He's still the champ and is one who holds the title but, the fighting spirit that Donaire is showing to the public now is interesting and encouraging to believe on him.

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Interesting take by Carl Frampton in this fight, he thinks that Nonito might have a change to pull an upset.

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“Inoue has got serious power, but Donaire has got a good chin and he has the ability to take shots and fire back. I would not be surprised if there was a shock on the cards in Japan. From the first fight, if anyone is going to have learnt and made the adjustments, then it’s Nonito. He’s been around this game a long, long time.”

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Frampton beat Donaire though, but they becomes friends. Carl retire last year after his one side lost beating from the hands of then champion Jamel Herring. So I guess him going with war with Donaire, he knows what the Filipino can bring in the table in this fight.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 03, 2022, 06:08:41 PM

Donaire to win +400
Donaire by KO +580

Wonderful odds. I'm really expecting odds like this. I don't really care how strong Naoya Inoue is and I can disregard all technical analysis pointing to him to win on the match as I will support my fellow countrymen. Upsets always happened even though the majority will say it's not likely to happen in this match.

Simple as that, if they believed Inoue will win and Donaire has no chance of upsetting the monster, then place a bet for Inoue with low odds. Donaire with the right timing will find a hole to connect his counter punch that might result in fatal damage like what he did during their first match.

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I also see his highlights and he got an impressive knock out win on every opponent he face. Only Donaire able to make his face so bloody and for their last fight performance for sure this is one thing been consider on why they have rematch so hopefully the same on their part 1 we can also see a more entertaining match because for sure Donaire is in revenge mode on what happen to him on their last match.

That was a tough fight by Inoue, he was not used to that kind of outcome because most of his fights are one sided fight which was dominated by him. I like to believe that this rematch will be more interesting as Donaire will not waste his effort, he will find a good opening for a possible one punch KO.

Although he won by unanimous decision, we can still see that Inoue was having a hard time beating Donaire. Inoue himself did not underestimate Donaire, his start was not as aggressive as his previous fight, so he understands that Donaire has the power and the quickness to hit and hurt him.

This rematch is good, Inoue is still the favorite that's why betting on Donaire gives a very attractive return.

Even if I'm not mistaken in judging this Donaire can be said to be one of the toughest opponents for Inoue because it's rare for him to fight like that, his face is crushed and he's even cornered in a few rounds.
talking about speed Inoue wants to maximize it more because he knows Donaire is an aggressive boxer and indeed it is very fast so he prefers to wait for that time

That really happened on that fight, that's why some people thought it's a contestant for fight of the year award.

By the way, if you are looking for the odds, it's already avaialble now, with a huge market.
You can check from sportsbet.

Donaire to win +400
Donaire by KO +580

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Well, that's all that we assume but we'll never know what to happen until it's able to happen and he wins this upcoming match. Just a few days to go and we'll see the greatness of these two.
It's possible that he just wants to leave a legacy if ever Donaire wins so his retirement is being ended by a win and tie while taking the belt out of Inoue.

Donaire's legacy has been cemented already, win or lose against Inoue. Of course it will add greatness to his resume if he beat Inoue. But it doesn't change a thing that in the last decade or so he is one of the best, holding championship belt from 4 different weight classes. He is even in the record for being a champion in 3 consecutive decades, 2000', 2010', 2020. So that alone put his name as one of greatest fighter we have. Filipino Flash, with one if not the best left hook in boxing even up to this day.

He's aiming for that and it's like his pride will be stepped in if he losses to him for the 2nd time around. Well, we're going to see how he's going to beat it as it's like a promise to himself and not to everyone that he'll win this time. We're all counting on him and we want him to beat Inoue and alas, they're tie and both had experienced the belt. No doubt about his records and the past but this time, it's different from there because he's beaten for the first match and this is a rematch that he shouldn't miss because if he losses, no more rematch.

Donaire has indeed a lot of accomplishments as a fighter. But perhaps this will be the biggest stage for him to win against a very tough opponent in Inoue.

He said in his interviews that he admits his mistakes on the first fight and promise that he won't the same mistakes again. Not sure what those mistakes are, but maybe he is too reluctant to engage before he is afraid that he will be caught coming inside with an overhand right from Inoue. But now Donaire is extra motivate and will take this challenge and go for a win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 02, 2022, 06:20:18 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 02, 2022, 06:04:43 PM

Well, that's all that we assume but we'll never know what to happen until it's able to happen and he wins this upcoming match. Just a few days to go and we'll see the greatness of these two.
It's possible that he just wants to leave a legacy if ever Donaire wins so his retirement is being ended by a win and tie while taking the belt out of Inoue.

Donaire's legacy has been cemented already, win or lose against Inoue. Of course it will add greatness to his resume if he beat Inoue. But it doesn't change a thing that in the last decade or so he is one of the best, holding championship belt from 4 different weight classes. He is even in the record for being a champion in 3 consecutive decades, 2000', 2010', 2020. So that alone put his name as one of greatest fighter we have. Filipino Flash, with one if not the best left hook in boxing even up to this day.

He's aiming for that and it's like his pride will be stepped in if he losses to him for the 2nd time around. Well, we're going to see how he's going to beat it as it's like a promise to himself and not to everyone that he'll win this time. We're all counting on him and we want him to beat Inoue and alas, they're tie and both had experienced the belt. No doubt about his records and the past but this time, it's different from there because he's beaten for the first match and this is a rematch that he shouldn't miss because if he losses, no more rematch.

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