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This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

I would be so happy if Donaire will win the rematch, he is not expected to win as he is a heavy underdog, but Donaire as what we've seen in the first fight, was really giving Inoue a hard time, and that's why I like about him because he has a heart of a Warrior, he never gives up and he can intimidate Inoue with his style of boxing which has a good accuracy.

Seeing from the first fight, it's a shame that Inoue didn't fall there so he won in the calculations but in this case it was clear that Donaire would not want something like this to happen again and would force him to take down Inoue directly.
I am in the same boat as you in this case even though it will be difficult to happen but I still believe in Donaire now

How could it be a shame while that fight became fight of the year? Donaire's fans is not ashamed about that lose and they are so proud on what Donaire shows that's why we see a rematch between them because their last meeting is so good. Although he didn't knock off the japanese but as you can see Inoue also struggle and we see bloods flowing in his face. So for sure we can see a big revenge for Donaire because its time for him to pick some good shots to revenge on what Inoue do to him in their last match.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 02, 2022, 04:12:38 AM

This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

I would be so happy if Donaire will win the rematch, he is not expected to win as he is a heavy underdog, but Donaire as what we've seen in the first fight, was really giving Inoue a hard time, and that's why I like about him because he has a heart of a Warrior, he never gives up and he can intimidate Inoue with his style of boxing which has a good accuracy.

Seeing from the first fight, it's a shame that Inoue didn't fall there so he won in the calculations but in this case it was clear that Donaire would not want something like this to happen again and would force him to take down Inoue directly.
I am in the same boat as you in this case even though it will be difficult to happen but I still believe in Donaire now

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It is worth it because this is another history and we don't know if this could be the last match for Donaire as he's going to retire from the pro boxing.
And he said that he wants to win this time so, there's the determination that comes from it which makes it very interesting as we want him to win this match against Inoue.

I don't think he will retire if he wins the match, the match by then will be even and they need to have a third one to resolve who is the better fighter, I love to see a trilogy on this match, but Donaire is in the twilight of his career and Inoue is just starting out and on his way to his greatness, they both have determinations but we all know this is physical sports and young legs will have an edge over the old one.
I hope Donaire can come out with a performance as he did in his last two fights or great if it will be a better performance.

A third match would come if he wins and Inoue wants to take back the glory from him. But before thinking about that, we'll get to know if there's a 3rd one after this match.
I've heard that he has said about his retirement and that's very likely after this match but then again, we don't know if that will happen and everything is up to him, win or lose.

If he wins this fight, I doubt that Donaire will just hang up his gloves. Yes, he has nothing to proved but boxers are still to go for that one last fight in their career to see if they still has it. And with the belt and as a champion, he will simply thinks that he need to defend it as least 1 time and say that it is no fluke winning it against the Monster Inoue. So he won't retire if he wins.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 01, 2022, 04:43:29 PM

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It is worth it because this is another history and we don't know if this could be the last match for Donaire as he's going to retire from the pro boxing.
And he said that he wants to win this time so, there's the determination that comes from it which makes it very interesting as we want him to win this match against Inoue.

I don't think he will retire if he wins the match, the match by then will be even and they need to have a third one to resolve who is the better fighter, I love to see a trilogy on this match, but Donaire is in the twilight of his career and Inoue is just starting out and on his way to his greatness, they both have determinations but we all know this is physical sports and young legs will have an edge over the old one.
I hope Donaire can come out with a performance as he did in his last two fights or great if it will be a better performance.

A third match would come if he wins and Inoue wants to take back the glory from him. But before thinking about that, we'll get to know if there's a 3rd one after this match.
I've heard that he has said about his retirement and that's very likely after this match but then again, we don't know if that will happen and everything is up to him, win or lose.

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^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

They are close to seeing each other to once again prove to the world who is the best of this era in the Bantam Weight Division but it seems like Donaire is the real Underdog here since he is getting old and we don't know if he is getting slower as well. on the other hand, we have Inoue who is still improving even though he is powerful and fast in his current state but we already had so many possibilities and they might be present here as well. what I mean is some unexpected result that happened like the fight with Canelo Alvarez whether Donaire will surprise Inoue or he will be surprised by how much he improves over the past years.

There is one thing that must be taken into account, in boxing when you have to face a left-handed boxer, you have to be very careful, especially if the boxer is right-handed, because the left is one of the sides that few right-handed boxers work on. and sometimes a left hook is hard to see when it comes, you would have to move a lot for it to take your preferred side.

Personally, I would pay a lot of attention to a boxer like that and even more so if he has that kind of strength. Inoue, on the other hand, would be afraid of speed, because a very fast boxer can hit not-so-strong punches, but if there are a lot of punches, they can start to destabilize anyone.

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Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

It's the best outcome for me too. I would like to see Donaire though, thinking that upset is still possible even Inoue is the favorite

and there are many factors that bookies choose from him. But, we also need to consider that with a perfect timing Donaire can throw a good combo

and win this match. Adjustment over one another, both fighters already taste the power punch of each other and surely they will not let that

kind of conversion to happen, they will try harder to win the belt.

Donaire has to make an adjustment, we want to see a big upset in this fight because if he beat Inoue, he will be the undisputed champion before he retires. It's only Inoue who is his toughest opponent, so if he can beat him, things would be easier for him to achieve his dream to be an undisputed champion.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, he will be the undisputed after he beats Naoya this time and the pinnacle of his achievement as a boxer and if ever he decided to retire, he could be in the discussion for top 10 at least best bantamweight of all time. And so we are all excitement about this match, and it's good that there are no trash talking involved, just respect because they don't need to bad mouth each other. More so from Nonito as his legacy will be on the line if he upset Naoya on the rematch.

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This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

It is worth it because this is another history and we don't know if this could be the last match for Donaire as he's going to retire from the pro boxing.
And he said that he wants to win this time so, there's the determination that comes from it which makes it very interesting as we want him to win this match against Inoue.

I don't think he will retire if he wins the match, the match by then will be even and they need to have a third one to resolve who is the better fighter, I love to see a trilogy on this match, but Donaire is in the twilight of his career and Inoue is just starting out and on his way to his greatness, they both have determinations but we all know this is physical sports and young legs will have an edge over the old one.
I hope Donaire can come out with a performance as he did in his last two fights or great if it will be a better performance.

There will be another rematch if Donaire win this time, this is trilogy and we will see more of there greatness if Donaire won on this. Yes, he’s getting older but I don’t think retirement is his option right now because if he win agains Inoue, most probably he will continue to fight and defend that belt. We know Inoue dominates on his previous matches but I think this one will he different, as Donaire trying to get a revenge, expect more good punches here, can’t wait for that.

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This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

It is worth it because this is another history and we don't know if this could be the last match for Donaire as he's going to retire from the pro boxing.
And he said that he wants to win this time so, there's the determination that comes from it which makes it very interesting as we want him to win this match against Inoue.

I don't think he will retire if he wins the match, the match by then will be even and they need to have a third one to resolve who is the better fighter, I love to see a trilogy on this match, but Donaire is in the twilight of his career and Inoue is just starting out and on his way to his greatness, they both have determinations but we all know this is physical sports and young legs will have an edge over the old one.
I hope Donaire can come out with a performance as he did in his last two fights or great if it will be a better performance.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 31, 2022, 10:26:01 AM

This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

It is worth it because this is another history and we don't know if this could be the last match for Donaire as he's going to retire from the pro boxing.
And he said that he wants to win this time so, there's the determination that comes from it which makes it very interesting as we want him to win this match against Inoue.

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In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

I disagree, Inoue is the one who's favored and in fact he's the favorite to win among the sports bookies but again, that's not a guarantee that Inoue is the one who will surely win because an upset can always happen anytime including this fight. As for Donaire, I know he have some strategies in mind for how to counter Inoue's movement but the latter also have those techniques too about countering Donaire's movement.

Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.

I was wrong in seeing the bet and indeed Inoue is the favorite now but in this case I still believe in Donaire even though he is not too favorite.

Sometimes in this case it will be very difficult to choose considering the two fighters apart from being in good condition this can also be surprising sometimes in the ring anything can happen.
The chances of success are also very slim when indeed one of them doesn't fall and if you look at their first fight how many successful hits from Donaire and even smashed Inoue's face but he still stood up this means nothing

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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now.

That's what Donaire said in an interview, he said he is better in the 2nd fight because he already saw what Inoue could do against him.
In this rematch, all he need to do is to make an adjustment and make sure he will not gassed out if the fight will again to go distance.

Quote from: Oilacris on May 31, 2022, 03:25:06 PM

But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue? Both of them have improved but can Donaire's body manage the catastrophe that the monster of Japan could bring.

No one knows, as per betting odds, Inoue is really the heavy favorites here, so if we based on that, Donaire's chance to beat Inoue is very slim.

Yes, that's exactly he said in that specific interview. Well, just let the man have his chance because he quite know what battle he is in now and possibly get a revenge on his defeat on their first encounter. None of us here can truly answer who will win, what we have are just mere speculations according to his chances. IMHO, a slim chance is a better chance than none.

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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.

In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

I disagree, Inoue is the one who's favored and in fact he's the favorite to win among the sports bookies but again, that's not a guarantee that Inoue is the one who will surely win because an upset can always happen anytime including this fight. As for Donaire, I know he have some strategies in mind for how to counter Inoue's movement but the latter also have those techniques too about countering Donaire's movement.

Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.

Donaire is surely prepared or cooking up something in regarding with his counter punches and since he does have experience on fighting Inoue then he do knows on what to do but of course

Inoue would made out some adjustments as well and be preparing on what would come. Upsets could really happen thats why this fight is something interesting to watch.

Possible trilogy? Yes but lets see on how this rematch turns or results out.

Nobody in the boxing industry would want to say that they are not prepared for their upcoming fight, so of course, they are. But can that words turn into actions? That is what I'm not sure about.

I believe in Donaire's capabilities not because he is a fellow compatriot but because I know that he could somehow push Inoue into his limits again and maybe he can do more than that and knock him out in the early rounds because I'm quite sure that is his goal. So, let's see who will survive in this rematch.

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I would be so happy if Donaire will win the rematch, he is not expected to win as he is a heavy underdog, but Donaire as what we've seen in the first fight, was really giving Inoue a hard time, and that's why I like about him because he has a heart of a Warrior, he never gives up and he can intimidate Inoue with his style of boxing which has a good accuracy.

A great pinoy pride. If there's a chance that he can take Inoue down, he will force it to happen. We have seen him still doing the damage and if Inoue give him another opening maybe this time, he will take that and will not give Inoue a good chance to recover back, the first fight gives him impressions that Inoue is really a great fighter and having the chance to throw solid punches is not easy.

Expect him to be aggressive but yet very careful not to give Inoue that same intensity to knock him down.

Sparing some amount for Donaire aside from the fun but the hope that he will win and bring another glory..

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Quote from: Oilacris on May 31, 2022, 07:20:46 PM

Yeah, its already understandable that trilogy would happen if ever Donaire would pull some win on this rematch but it would really be just like on breaking a huge and tall wall on defeating Inoue.
The day is getting closer and for sure they are making out preparations for this upcoming fight just like always.The better the boxer the one who would win up this match.
I cant just believe that Casimero wont be the one will be fighting due to those shit things happened to him. Grin

This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

I would be so happy if Donaire will win the rematch, he is not expected to win as he is a heavy underdog, but Donaire as what we've seen in the first fight, was really giving Inoue a hard time, and that's why I like about him because he has a heart of a Warrior, he never gives up and he can intimidate Inoue with his style of boxing which has a good accuracy.

Many would love to see Donaire win on this match because for sure fans want to make thus happen especially he is on the tip of retirement. His retirement would really be more amazing since he defeat the one of the most stronger fighter on their era. But for sure Inoue will give him a lot of problem so best for Donaire to train more harder and make his lower body more stronger because Inoue got a reputation to knock his opponent by throwing some solid punches in the body.

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Quote from: Oilacris on May 31, 2022, 07:20:46 PM

Yeah, its already understandable that trilogy would happen if ever Donaire would pull some win on this rematch but it would really be just like on breaking a huge and tall wall on defeating Inoue.
The day is getting closer and for sure they are making out preparations for this upcoming fight just like always.The better the boxer the one who would win up this match.
I cant just believe that Casimero wont be the one will be fighting due to those shit things happened to him. Grin

This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

I would be so happy if Donaire will win the rematch, he is not expected to win as he is a heavy underdog, but Donaire as what we've seen in the first fight, was really giving Inoue a hard time, and that's why I like about him because he has a heart of a Warrior, he never gives up and he can intimidate Inoue with his style of boxing which has a good accuracy.

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Quote from: Oilacris on May 31, 2022, 07:20:46 PM

Yeah, its already understandable that trilogy would happen if ever Donaire would pull some win on this rematch but it would really be just like on breaking a huge and tall wall on defeating Inoue.
The day is getting closer and for sure they are making out preparations for this upcoming fight just like always.The better the boxer the one who would win up this match.
I cant just believe that Casimero wont be the one will be fighting due to those shit things happened to him. Grin

This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

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Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

It's the best outcome for me too. I would like to see Donaire though, thinking that upset is still possible even Inoue is the favorite

and there are many factors that bookies choose from him. But, we also need to consider that with a perfect timing Donaire can throw a good combo

and win this match. Adjustment over one another, both fighters already taste the power punch of each other and surely they will not let that

kind of conversion to happen, they will try harder to win the belt.

Donaire has to make an adjustment, we want to see a big upset in this fight because if he beat Inoue, he will be the undisputed champion before he retires. It's only Inoue who is his toughest opponent, so if he can beat him, things would be easier for him to achieve his dream to be an undisputed champion.

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Quote from: Dave1 on June 01, 2022, 12:45:03 AM

Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

It's the best outcome for me too. I would like to see Donaire though, thinking that upset is still possible even Inoue is the favorite

and there are many factors that bookies choose from him. But, we also need to consider that with a perfect timing Donaire can throw a good combo

and win this match. Adjustment over one another, both fighters already taste the power punch of each other and surely they will not let that

kind of conversion to happen, they will try harder to win the belt.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 31, 2022, 10:26:01 AM

Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.

In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

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