Topic: Inside-the-Dragons-Den-Bitcoin-Cores-Troll-Army - page 2. (Read 3897 times)

Its getting tiresone listening to the fear-mongering about HF -v- SF. Its all about politics.

A well organised HF is not problematic. It only becomes problematic when it is contentious - and the only party that have made it contentious by their intransigence ( and lies and double crossing) is Blockrtream/Core. Its political because they sold a specific use case to AXA which required Bitcoin to be subverted into a settlement layer, for transactions occurring on a TBD second layer. LN was the star turn in that role for 12 month ( but I think the veneer is finally starting to crack on that cheap trick) Segwit (which in itself is a good feature) was butchered/hacked so that it could be deployed as a SF, purely to support the narrative of "HF is dangerous!!"

But I think the message is starting to get though now. People can see the degree to which the narative is being controlled on this forum and /r/bitcoin.

Blockstream labeling anyone who disagrees with them as a shill is getting transparent. When your only argument against someone is to call them a "shill" you have lost the argument.

Updating all Bitcoin ATMs, merchants and wallets in 3 months?

You keep saying that even though I understand it. I don't use reddit; I only occasionally read it.

This is complete bullshit and an outright lie. I was in a private channel, definitely not in one where the likes of you are.

Ha, I remember that. You almost sucked the ass right of poor Adam Back. I'd say he felt like he had found a lost puppy.

You are a sham, Lauda.

Don't be jealous just cause Franky was smart enough to buy bitcoins at a nickel a pop, and you weren't.

Mircea?  I have no respect for that guy... He was one of the first dishonest shills that called BitcoinXT an altcoin.

if all you care about is the temporary price drama then thats your failing. yea maybe i have enough bitcoin to not care about such things because up or down daily drama dosnt change my life from champagne to vineger wine.

my life allows me to spend bitcoin so that i dont even look at the fiat price, fiat has become meaningless to me.
i would actually be happier if bitcoin was measured directly against the 'cost of living' index. EG 1btc=1000 loaves of bread.

i care about bitcoins decentralised diverse ethos, which if we all cared about it.. then that would secure real value. long term. and you too would care less about temporary price drama..
then maybe even you would stop checking the price hourly and panicking.

as for your comments about arly adopters supporting something that will crash.
here is a hint. many implementations have been around a couple years, just plodding along, no deadlines or threats.. any drama in the last 6 months is from the core camp pointing fingers.
there is your speculation

as for what they support. most of them dont care about core vs bu.
the real debate is bitcoin ethos vs blockstreams corp ethos

if you think that bitcoin is core and only core. you have stuck yourself in a small box. and its time you start looking outside of your box


again you only think that there are only 2 implementations.
again you only think that there are only 2 implementations.
and you think that bitcoin needs core in control.

the truth is no one should be in control no dev kings what soever

early adopters who actually understand bitcoin are not kissing gmaxwells ass and see segwit as just the half gesture it is. so what you call "remain as is" is actually running a node thats not segwit. but i do applaud your brush under the carpet attempt

p.s
if all your going to reply is "wall of text franky" then all it is doing is prove you do not have attention span to read paragraphs or actual details and blindly just read small scripts like those on reddit.
try hard to avoid reddit, avoid fox news and improve your life beyond racial stereotypes and "bomb them" propaganda

Are those whales Amish and afraid to fix the transactions capacity problems, because it would cost them their souls.



Are you blind to BTC dominance in CMK which has declined ~30% in a few months compared to Alts.

Keep thinking BTC can prosper without updating, and it and your wealth will go the way of the 8 track tape.
 


 

learn consensus

you are soo deep down the reddit script rabbit hole that you can only think of 2 things
1. softs best case scenario..
2. hards worse case scenario.

you are now even in favour of letting core "break a huge part of the infrastructure" simply because you dont understand
just because they say its soft is meaningless

soft just means they used a backdoor exploit to bypass real consensus.
going soft does not mean its safer. just means that in theory they can bypass some of the communities right to vote.
that is all.

hard just means full community vote. without bypassing
going hard does not mean its riskier. just means that in theory it requires full consensus of the communities right to vote.
that is all.

no one (apart from core) has wanted intentional splits or controversial splits.
wake up to who is throwing the "break a huge part of the infrastructure" bombs.

Darkbot ,
You are too Young and Stupid to understand a proper insult , so I will make it simple for you.

You are a dumb-ass.


 

franky1 the multi millionaire early investor that travels around the world with his millions while posting all day on bitcointalk.org. Seems legit.

If you had millions worth of BTC you wouldn't be as dumb as supporting something that will crash the price. The only whale doing that is Roger Ver and he obviously has incentives to do so.

All actual whales like Loaded and Mircea Popescu are anti BUcoin and want BTC to remain as it is or are pro segwit, but NEVER want to jeopardize his wealth by putting illiterate idiots in charge of the code.

Says the person claiming not to be a Paid Minion, but yet makes it a point to constantly argue for a team of liars.
Your insults are like your intelligence , weak.  


Who gives a shit, energy efficiently should be a goal for all miners.
I noticed how your insensitive self ignored this:
if someone found a cheaper more energy efficient way to mine, everyone should follow in their footsteps, not be a dumbass and claim it is a attack vector.
They should be trying to make the whole process more energy efficient, because those mining warehouses are causing an increase in electricity's prices in the areas they reside.
Causing a hardship for the poor people in those areas, that start having to choose between electricity or food and medicine.
Pay attention to what matters here, the energy waste of ASICS can not be sustained and the poor are suffering because of it.



Yo Dummy, they can schedule the Hard Fork to occur in 3 months from today, that is hardly rushed.
Only your lame ass baby core devs are too incompetent to pull off a hard fork.


 

How about you resume your primary school education first, then we may talk technicalities? You weren't even taught proper reasoning.

Your whole "argument" is built on the in existence of two types of ASICBoost, covert and overt variants. However, it is well known that both exist (even the circlejerk r/btc has acknowledged this).

You still don't understand HF implications. A rushed HF would break a huge part of the infrastructure.

Kiklo = Lambie in disguise, trolling for cheaper coin.

Jonald_fyookball is just a noob crying for his lolypop.

Franky1 is the total package; troll/noob and paid shill.

Advantages to only increasing the blocksize, is it requires no changes at all to the current reward structure of found blocks.
Which the miners would definitely be in favor of and be more apt to agree too.


 

Yep, you are clueless to a technical explanation why core can't move to a faster blockspeed or increase blocksize?
Maybe you should take some night classes to broaden your understanding of how crypto works.


My response to the ASICS BOOST Propaganda by G.Maxwell ,
went as follows:


 

Or more simply and less controversially, just increase the blocksize.  Both are HF obviously which goes against the Core propaganda narrative.

You haven't addressed anything that I've said. You've created a straw man argument which has no relevance to my statements. This is why you and your opinions are worthless (just ask your colleague starting with a 'f' for more advice).

Since you claim to be a SJW, then why aren't you having the same stance towards mr. Jihan and the exposure of his ASICBoost?

Funny , how everything pointing how core is lying and manipulating, just bothers the daylights out of you.  

Claiming everything is bullshit , you are starting to show you lack the knowledge to form a proper technical response to a technical problem.

Ask yourself this , if LTC can do a 2½ minute blockspeed , why are the Core Devs so incompetent ,
that they can't make BTC go as fast as 5 minute blocks (2X as slow as LTC), but it would still increase BTC transaction capacity by double.

The fact is all you can do is cry BS, really shows how weak your position is.

Your responses go like this bullshit , troll, shrill , and repeat.
You are like a broken record, if you had any credibility, you have pretty much blown it defending a corrupt lying dev team.
I hope they did pay you , because making a fool of yourself on a daily basis for the core devs must get old, you should ask for a higher pay.  


 

This statement is bullshit because there is no such thing as "Core lies", as "Core" is not stating anything nor is it possible. There are certain individuals who contribute to Bitcoin Core && have certain opinions. Them having opinions about something != Core stating something.

Bullshit until proven otherwise. Give us the evidence.

More ad-hominem from you. How about you get a life franky?

Stop posting for that signature ad. money and start using your brain. It will become very easy to see through the BTU lies.

you think that there is only core and bitcoin unlimited?
damn. you really have swallowed the spoon of core misinformation

by the way efficient ASICS and non-core implementations have been running on bitcoins mainnet for far longer than the non-activated segwit code.
by the way segwit started as an altcoin and has wormed its way into translating bitcoins network by the use of a 'going soft' backdoor that cant be vetoed by the community of bitcoin nodes that were and always will be bitcoin based code.(yep even core v12 cant stop segwit by the user node consensus)

by the way, gmaxwell only found segwits flaw last month. hence the drama now, instead of last year
but then pretending its asics and non-core nodes who are intentionally attacking segwit, rather than admitting that for the last couple years miners are just mining and non-core nodes are just plodding along for the last 2 years and its segwit thats not as utopian as promised.. is probably what your more angry about, but too loyal to either perceive that logical option, or too loyal to admit it.

get out of your blckstream(core) defence corner and look at the big picture

are you the one that write this crap code of BU? because is < non stop fun park there . The most fan will be when this miners scammers decide to fork off from bitcoin network with it. Then will begin the show