Instawallet/Bitcoin-Central Security Breach - page 9.

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: steelboy on April 03, 2013, 12:25:15 PM

Well an update at last

Here is my issue

Lets assume the worst that its an inside job. Maybe the team do not have access to the individual urls.

By making us give them to them we are effectively handing over our bitcoins.

By making it a first come first serves it makes you want to give it to them straight away. Just saying.

What do you think?

But to claim, you almost have to present that to prove ownership, because that is the only evidence.

steelboy

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Well an update at last

Here is my issue

Lets assume the worst that its an inside job. Maybe the team do not have access to the individual urls.

By making us give them to them we are effectively handing over our bitcoins.

By making it a first come first serves it makes you want to give it to them straight away. Just saying.

What do you think?

hous

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How much did davout pay for instawallet?

psilos

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still no update for bitcoin-central

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: Kotcha on April 03, 2013, 12:14:57 PM

Good news, looks like we can claim our funds back... looks like the process is gonna take 90 days though, no other option than to hold Cool

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INSTAWALLET SERVICE NOTICE

The Instawallet service is suspended indefinitely until we are able to develop an alternative architecture.

Our database was fraudulently accessed, due to the very nature of Instawallet it is impossible to reopen the service as-is.

In the next few days we are going to open the claim process for Instawallet balance holders to claim the funds they had stored before the service interruption.

Important information on claims submission:

For the first 90 days we will accept claims for individual Instawallets. Your wallet's URL and key will be used to pre-populate a form to file the claim.
After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded. If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.
Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.

To be honest, I don't feel good at all, they didn't say will refund 50BTC or larger fully, (which means they lose money, truely hacked). Secondly, due to the nature of Instawallet, apparently the hacker could claim the money as well if they got access to the database of the URL. Thirdly,that is 90 Days and you know those "delay" tatics a lot of scammers use, first 90 days, then another 90 days, then partial refund, then....
Not saying they are, but this is not good news at all.

Kotcha

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Good news, looks like we can claim our funds back... looks like the process is gonna take 90 days though, no other option than to hold Cool

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INSTAWALLET SERVICE NOTICE

The Instawallet service is suspended indefinitely until we are able to develop an alternative architecture.

Our database was fraudulently accessed, due to the very nature of Instawallet it is impossible to reopen the service as-is.

In the next few days we are going to open the claim process for Instawallet balance holders to claim the funds they had stored before the service interruption.

Important information on claims submission:

For the first 90 days we will accept claims for individual Instawallets. Your wallet's URL and key will be used to pre-populate a form to file the claim.
After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded. If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.
Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: Joost on April 03, 2013, 12:13:08 PM

Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:11:59 PM

Quote from: Joost on April 03, 2013, 12:10:20 PM

Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:04:47 PM

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

Source?

the website now updated with the notice.

I'm not seeing it. If you're trolling, this is not a good time. If you're not, do post a screenshot.

INSTAWALLET SERVICE NOTICE

The Instawallet service is suspended indefinitely until we are able to develop an alternative architecture.

Our database was fraudulently accessed, due to the very nature of Instawallet it is impossible to reopen the service as-is.

In the next few days we are going to open the claim process for Instawallet balance holders to claim the funds they had stored before the service interruption.

Important information on claims submission:

1.For the first 90 days we will accept claims for individual Instawallets. Your wallet's URL and key will be used to pre-populate a form to file the claim.
2.After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded. If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.
3.Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.

From http://notice.instawallet.org/

psilos

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Quote from: hous on April 03, 2013, 12:10:33 PM

I rang this number and he answered +33.668242163

and?

did you talk to anyone??

Quote from: trout on April 03, 2013, 12:11:35 PM

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For the first 90 days we will accept claims for individual Instawallets. Your wallet's URL and key will be used to pre-populate a form to file the claim.

After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded. If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.

Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.

well, this means losses. Angry

no information how much coins the hacker(s) were able to take.

Where did you quote this message from? Are there any information about bitcoin-central Huh

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Joost

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Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:11:59 PM

Quote from: Joost on April 03, 2013, 12:10:20 PM

Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:04:47 PM

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

Source?

the website now updated with the notice.

I'm not seeing it. If you're trolling, this is not a good time. If you're not, do post a screenshot.

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: Joost on April 03, 2013, 12:10:20 PM

Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:04:47 PM

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

Source?

the website now updated with the notice.

trout

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For the first 90 days we will accept claims for individual Instawallets. Your wallet's URL and key will be used to pre-populate a form to file the claim.

After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded. If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.

Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.

well, this means losses. Angry

no information how much coins the hacker(s) were able to take.

hous

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I rang this number and he answered +33.668242163

Joost

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Quote from: twolifeinexile on April 03, 2013, 12:04:47 PM

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

Source?

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: Joost on April 03, 2013, 12:02:37 PM

Quote from: hous on April 03, 2013, 11:58:38 AM

hes about to make a update this second!!

That's due. The 48 hours since "Expect normal service to resume within 48 hours." have just about passed Tongue

How did you get in touch, though? Are you sure it's not some perp with that nickname on one of the IRC servers trying to pull your leg? Wink

Thanks for letting us all know though! Appreciated

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

Joost

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Quote from: hous on April 03, 2013, 11:58:38 AM

hes about to make a update this second!!

That's due. The 48 hours since "Expect normal service to resume within 48 hours." have just about passed Tongue

How did you get in touch, though? Are you sure it's not some perp with that nickname on one of the IRC servers trying to pull your leg? Wink

Thanks for letting us all know though! Appreciated

twolifeinexile

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Quote from: hous on April 03, 2013, 11:58:38 AM

hes about to make a update this second!!

Really appreciate your effort!

hous

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hes about to make a update this second!!

hous

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JUST SPOKE TO DAVOUT

psilos

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Quote from: steelboy on April 03, 2013, 11:47:43 AM

Quote from: psilos on April 03, 2013, 11:42:26 AM

Well guys I made a small investigation about our guy "davout" .

So first of all the domain bitcoin-central.net is registered under the following details:

Domain name: bitcoin-central.net

Registrant:
W3BFLOWS SARL
FRANCOIS DAVID
34 CHARLES CHEFSON
BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270
FR
+33.668242163
[email protected]

Administrative Contact:
W3BFLOWS SARL
FRANCOIS Michel
34 rue Charles Chefson
Bois Colombes, 92270
FR
+33.672332684
[email protected]

where "W3BFLOWS SARL" is the company behind bitcoin-central:

Company: W3BFLOWS SARL
Address: FRANCOIS DAVID 34 CHARLES CHEFSON BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270 FR
Phone: +33.668242163

and it seems that FRANCOIS DAVID is the official representative. FRANCOIS DAVID is our guy : davout ( https://github.com/davout). That guy is also the CTO in Paymium (http://paymium.com/about/)

Well I dont want to extract any particular cocnclusions. But at least now we know who is the guy we should be looking for in case something really bad happens Wink

Which I am still hoping is not the case.

I imagine in a situation like this some element of media silence is needed. Especially if you don't want to say something that might turn out to be wrong later.

Lets just hope he is as decent as he has seemed before.

steelboy you are right. I want to make myself clear that I am not blaming anybody . I just give out some information that I found publicly online

I was also about to say that Paymiym seems a reliable company since on their webpage all the board members appear.

However I still think that the official representative of the company should regulalry update and inform the clients. In this case we are lacking essential update on a crucial issue.

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Quote from: psilos on April 03, 2013, 11:42:26 AM

Well guys I made a small investigation about our guy "davout" .

So first of all the domain bitcoin-central.net is registered under the following details:

Domain name: bitcoin-central.net

Registrant:
W3BFLOWS SARL
FRANCOIS DAVID
34 CHARLES CHEFSON
BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270
FR
+33.668242163
[email protected]

Administrative Contact:
W3BFLOWS SARL
FRANCOIS Michel
34 rue Charles Chefson
Bois Colombes, 92270
FR
+33.672332684
[email protected]

where "W3BFLOWS SARL" is the company behind bitcoin-central:

Company: W3BFLOWS SARL
Address: FRANCOIS DAVID 34 CHARLES CHEFSON BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270 FR
Phone: +33.668242163

and it seems that FRANCOIS DAVID is the official representative. FRANCOIS DAVID is our guy : davout ( https://github.com/davout). That guy is also the CTO in Paymium (http://paymium.com/about/)

Well I dont want to extract any particular cocnclusions. But at least now we know who is the guy we should be looking for in case something really bad happens Wink

Which I am still hoping is not the case.

I imagine in a situation like this some element of media silence is needed. Especially if you don't want to say something that might turn out to be wrong later.

Lets just hope he is as decent as he has seemed before.

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