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Topic: Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. - page 2. (Read 7812 times)
January 22, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
January 22, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
It's too long to translate. But the first message from killthelion is "Would you (I think he's talking to NGZ) like to note down my phone number, so you can inform me at that time?" There is no clue from the conversation suggesting what time is "that time". It may either mean the delivery of the first batch, or the availability of the second batch. As BitSyncom said none of these people have actually ordered, I guess killthelion was talking about 2nd batch availability but not 1st batch delivery.
NGZ and some other people said he would talk on the phone if the order is >30 units. Killthelion kept trolling and said NGZ was not respecting him, so NGZ said "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"
This is my comment: This "killthelion" thought NGZ should serve him like a VIP while he was only going to order 1-2 units.
In Chinese, we say "a man got insult from others because he insulted himself first". Here you can see what it means.
BS. I can read the whole conversation.
killthelion wasnt asking to be treated like VIP. WTF did you get this form? I can see why he want to contact NGZ because nobody knows who handles CSR. Avalon runs purely on website?
then NGZ clearly is disrespectful. Saying these ppl arent worth his fcking time. (typical Chinese business). He obviously think miners are dirtybags.
If BitSyncom is not lying, killthelion is just a potential 2nd batch customer with an intention to preorder 1-2 unit. WTF makes you think NGZ is obliged to call him when the 2nd batch is available? Should we all leave our phone number to NGZ and ask him to call us when the 2nd batch is available?
Because hes chinese? (killthelion) Chinese isnt used to pay and patiently wait. He and NGZ are fellow chinese in the same country where telephone cost nothing. Expecting to speak over the phone rather email isnt extreme.
Only u guys are used to being treated like dirt and now see that treatment as standard.
I dont see anything wrong with killthelion. Infact he wasnt being rude in anyway. NGZ on the other hand, acts like asshole. My bet is NGZ rather have oversea customers.
Anyway, by seeing this chat log you can clearly see another character of NGZ. Funny how he makes money by selling tools to miners.
January 22, 2013, 01:40:55 PM
I couldn't care less, as an Avalon customer, what he wrote in that chat and what he might think about me (or his other customers).
The only thing that counts for me he delivers a good - in working order and as promised - product soon on my doorstep.
And how he does it I don't care.
People should contact Yifu / BitSyncom for questions regarding sales, not him anyways.
No disrespect to the Avalon team by all means, I'm just getting tired of all that wining of trolls and idiots that have nothing to-do all day on this forum...
The only thing that counts for me he delivers a good - in working order and as promised - product soon on my doorstep.
And how he does it I don't care.
People should contact Yifu / BitSyncom for questions regarding sales, not him anyways.
No disrespect to the Avalon team by all means, I'm just getting tired of all that wining of trolls and idiots that have nothing to-do all day on this forum...
January 22, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
This is how killthelion-style miners looks like:
You can't expect any respect from others if you act like this
You can't expect any respect from others if you act like this
January 22, 2013, 01:10:31 PM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
It's too long to translate. But the first message from killthelion is "Would you (I think he's talking to NGZ) like to note down my phone number, so you can inform me at that time?" There is no clue from the conversation suggesting what time is "that time". It may either mean the delivery of the first batch, or the availability of the second batch. As BitSyncom said none of these people have actually ordered, I guess killthelion was talking about 2nd batch availability but not 1st batch delivery.
NGZ and some other people said he would talk on the phone if the order is >30 units. Killthelion kept trolling and said NGZ was not respecting him, so NGZ said "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"
This is my comment: This "killthelion" thought NGZ should serve him like a VIP while he was only going to order 1-2 units.
In Chinese, we say "a man got insult from others because he insulted himself first". Here you can see what it means.
BS. I can read the whole conversation.
killthelion wasnt asking to be treated like VIP. WTF did you get this form? I can see why he want to contact NGZ because nobody knows who handles CSR. Avalon runs purely on website?
then NGZ clearly is disrespectful. Saying these ppl arent worth his fcking time. (typical Chinese business). He obviously think miners are dirtybags.
If BitSyncom is not lying, killthelion is just a potential 2nd batch customer with an intention to preorder 1-2 unit. WTF makes you think NGZ is obliged to call him when the 2nd batch is available? Should we all leave our phone number to NGZ and ask him to call us when the 2nd batch is available?
January 22, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
It's too long to translate. But the first message from killthelion is "Would you (I think he's talking to NGZ) like to note down my phone number, so you can inform me at that time?" There is no clue from the conversation suggesting what time is "that time". It may either mean the delivery of the first batch, or the availability of the second batch. As BitSyncom said none of these people have actually ordered, I guess killthelion was talking about 2nd batch availability but not 1st batch delivery.
NGZ and some other people said he would talk on the phone if the order is >30 units. Killthelion kept trolling and said NGZ was not respecting him, so NGZ said "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"
This is my comment: This "killthelion" thought NGZ should serve him like a VIP while he was only going to order 1-2 units.
In Chinese, we say "a man got insult from others because he insulted himself first". Here you can see what it means.
BS. I can read the whole conversation.
killthelion wasnt asking to be treated like VIP. WTF did you get this form? I can see why he want to contact NGZ because nobody knows who handles CSR. Avalon runs purely on website?
then NGZ clearly is disrespectful. Saying these ppl arent worth his fcking time. (typical Chinese business). He obviously think miners are dirtybags.
January 22, 2013, 12:55:58 PM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
It's too long to translate. But the first message from killthelion is "Would you (I think he's talking to NGZ) like to note down my phone number, so you can inform me at that time?" There is no clue from the conversation suggesting what time is "that time". It may either mean the delivery of the first batch, or the availability of the second batch. As BitSyncom said none of these people have actually ordered, I guess killthelion was talking about 2nd batch availability but not 1st batch delivery.
NGZ and some other people said he would talk on the phone if the order is >30 units. Killthelion kept trolling and said NGZ was not respecting him, so NGZ said "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"
This is my comment: This "killthelion" thought NGZ should serve him like a VIP while he was only going to order 1-2 units.
In Chinese, we say "a man got insult from others because he insulted himself first". Here you can see what it means.
Inaba at this point would be swearing like mad now.
January 22, 2013, 12:51:49 PM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
It's too long to translate. But the first message from killthelion is "Would you (I think he's talking to NGZ) like to note down my phone number, so you can inform me at that time?" There is no clue from the conversation suggesting what time is "that time". It may either mean the delivery of the first batch, or the availability of the second batch. As BitSyncom said none of these people have actually ordered, I guess killthelion was talking about 2nd batch availability but not 1st batch delivery.
NGZ and some other people said he would talk on the phone if the order is >30 units. Killthelion kept trolling and said NGZ was not respecting him, so NGZ said "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"
This is my comment: This "killthelion" thought NGZ should serve him like a VIP while he was only going to order 1-2 units.
In Chinese, we say "a man got insult from others because he insulted himself first". Here you can see what it means.
January 22, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
He's also almost right about miners living at the bottom of the ecosystem.
Oh yeah? Well, uh YOUR FACE IS!
I hope this is not like the Human Centipede or something.
January 22, 2013, 11:48:22 AM
He's also almost right about miners living at the bottom of the ecosystem.
Oh yeah? Well, uh YOUR FACE IS!
January 22, 2013, 11:33:43 AM
Without miners there would be no Bitcoin or other alt cryptocurrency. Treating miners like that is truly idiotic.
That's indicative for the mining of other commodities. My dad, in his mid teens, and grandfather worked as coal miners in Belgium, putting in twelve hour shifts, exiting the hole literally covered head-to-toe in black soot, hence the term "black lung".
Moussa Koboura (12) searches for gold in pit that is 5ft deep
in the Sirguin region, Burkina Faso.
The above shown, bitcoin miners deserve the utmost respect, no matter where they reside on the chain.
I look forward the reading the entire translation of the provided screenshots, with at the very least a respected member stating either there's nothing to see here (move on), or somebody's eating more than Ramen noodles.
January 22, 2013, 09:34:27 AM
A cursory review shows that ngzhang is the sole technical advisor, customer service, and general salesman for the China region, and he is 'going crazy' from that. I'll have to spend some time making out head and tail from the longish conversation, though....
There's a couple of detractors in the conversation stating that ngzhang blocked them for trolling. I still do not see ngzhang's faults here.
tl;dr: nothing of significance here apart from the trolling. The drama is worse in the Avalon thread.
There's a couple of detractors in the conversation stating that ngzhang blocked them for trolling. I still do not see ngzhang's faults here.
tl;dr: nothing of significance here apart from the trolling. The drama is worse in the Avalon thread.
January 22, 2013, 09:30:39 AM
thanks RobertM, now that you posted the whole story, you have even less of an arguement.
tl;dr;
ngzhang: I'm not customer support, just because you purchased Avalon does not mean I need you answer your calls, I'm leaving, I got stuff to do and no time to deal with you trolls. ( none of these people ordered from Avalon ).
like on Bitcointalk, most Avalon supporters simply bought units from us, and Trolls spend all day trolling on the forum, China is no different, see this chat group log.
tl;dr;
ngzhang: I'm not customer support, just because you purchased Avalon does not mean I need you answer your calls, I'm leaving, I got stuff to do and no time to deal with you trolls. ( none of these people ordered from Avalon ).
like on Bitcointalk, most Avalon supporters simply bought units from us, and Trolls spend all day trolling on the forum, China is no different, see this chat group log.
January 22, 2013, 09:28:24 AM
here's the whole story.
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The images are loading slowly for me. Yikes, this'll take me some time to go through.
Man, I wish you guys used real imagehosts that are not blacklisted everywhere instead of what you use.
imagehosts u can easily visit r blocked by GFW.
http://imgur.com/799Hv8W,letNaZg,bWUqqPy,oAdHUra,3lENCky,LgrEBRP#4
January 22, 2013, 09:26:08 AM
Man, I wish you guys used real imagehosts that are not blacklisted everywhere instead of what you use.
imagehosts u can easily visit r blocked by GFW.
January 22, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
January 22, 2013, 09:15:48 AM
Man, I wish you guys used real imagehosts that are not blacklisted everywhere instead of what you use.
January 22, 2013, 09:09:57 AM
here's the whole story.
http://vip.tu265.com/b-21378-50fe9be5e2f8c.jpg
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January 22, 2013, 09:08:47 AM
Without seeing the full context, we cannot know what is the intent behind his words.
Full translation below for the other conversations:
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NGzhang: What do you mean by politeness?
/pig: Have the time to accept your phone call.
killthelion: The final product retailers should be in contact in this case
killthelion: Do you expect the Head Of Health Ministry to greet you when you go to a hospital?
killthelion: You guys are not making sense here.
/pig: (scowling face)
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killthelion: You're just a seller; why are you so proud?
NGzhang: The lowest level in the ecosystem.
Who am I: (references out of context)( Why the long winded talk?)
/pig: Haha
3/4stick of cigarrete: Let me say something fair. It is not NGZ who're selling to you, the sales are done using the website. You'll need to visit the site to buy. NGZ has placed this bluntly, if you want to buy in large numbers you can contact him, otherwise please purchase through the website. This is analogous to (name of a shop here that I don't know)'s modus operandi, although the service is certainly not that good as (name of shop)'s.
NGzhang:LOL
(last Pic)
(photoshopped pic section) NGZhang:The lowest level in the ecosystem.
killthelion: You guys mine until your dignity is lost.
Who am I: If you think it's not high tech enough, then go and make one of your own.
NGZhang: That's correct
NGzhang: Mining makes you have no dignity, no human rights.
NGzhang: that's it.
Well, that certainly makes more sense now...
Full translation below for the other conversations:
http://vip.tu265.com/b-21378-50fe3f587b11b.jpg
NGzhang: What do you mean by politeness?
/pig: Have the time to accept your phone call.
killthelion: The final product retailers should be in contact in this case
killthelion: Do you expect the Head Of Health Ministry to greet you when you go to a hospital?
killthelion: You guys are not making sense here.
/pig: (scowling face)
http://vip.tu265.com/b-21378-50fe3f4bdd002.jpg
http://vip.tu265.com/b-21378-50fe3f506f2e4.jpg
killthelion: You're just a seller; why are you so proud?
NGzhang: The lowest level in the ecosystem.
Who am I: (references out of context)( Why the long winded talk?)
/pig: Haha
3/4stick of cigarrete: Let me say something fair. It is not NGZ who're selling to you, the sales are done using the website. You'll need to visit the site to buy. NGZ has placed this bluntly, if you want to buy in large numbers you can contact him, otherwise please purchase through the website. This is analogous to (name of a shop here that I don't know)'s modus operandi, although the service is certainly not that good as (name of shop)'s.
NGzhang:LOL
(last Pic)
(photoshopped pic section) NGZhang:The lowest level in the ecosystem.
killthelion: You guys mine until your dignity is lost.
Who am I: If you think it's not high tech enough, then go and make one of your own.
NGZhang: That's correct
NGzhang: Mining makes you have no dignity, no human rights.
NGzhang: that's it.
Well, that certainly makes more sense now...
John, please don't lie, I am a native speaker and you are lying quite thoroughly.
It should be: Did someone experienced a hallucination that I ever think highly of miners?
Meaning: Did someone experienced a hallucination that I ever respected miners?
And I typed a (simplified) Chinese transcript of that line, go Google translate it if you don't believe me.
好像刚才有人出现了我曾经瞧得起矿工的幻觉?
Google Translate English:Just as someone I used to think much of the miners hallucinations?
John, it was not wise for you to play the game of word, really, it is not wise.
And other fellow Bitcoiners, it was said that:好問則裕，自用則小 Meaning that if you ask questions, you will be rich in knowledge, if you are opinionated, there are little use of you. (Yeah, I write traditional Chinese, I live in Hong Kong)
January 22, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
NGzhang: Mining makes you have no dignity, no human rights.
John, what a good translation.
ask some Chinese come here to tell is that what he wanna say, dont play a game of words.
i know the whole story now, and i can post all screenshot here.
maybe the best way is anyone interested in this issue just try to find a Chinese friend to translate.
what makes me feel embarrassed is when i tried to say something for miners who bought or plan to buy AVALON machine.
why do they just keep silence?
John, what a good translation.
ask some Chinese come here to tell is that what he wanna say, dont play a game of words.
i know the whole story now, and i can post all screenshot here.
maybe the best way is anyone interested in this issue just try to find a Chinese friend to translate.
what makes me feel embarrassed is when i tried to say something for miners who bought or plan to buy AVALON machine.
why do they just keep silence?
I would trust John's translation a lot more. Just because your English is not so good. After two translations the meaning of the words would be definitely lost.
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