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legendary
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https://bpip.org
August 16, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
#28
Can you mine on any pool or only the ones you guys allow?

Only listed pools - see below. If you purchase a hashlet you also get ZenPool in addition to Scrypt pools.

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newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
August 16, 2014, 08:37:34 PM
#27
I purchased 1mhash hashlet, and observed my scrypt hashrate on my pool -- pointing said 1mhash to my pool had no affect on my hashrate at all.. awesome.

You don't get the rules of this game, you're not supposed to use those other pools that are listed only to show the superior profitability of ZenPool  Grin

I'm surprised they even allow to do that, but this will probably be fixed soon.

Hahaha what a negative and unfounded assumption suchmoon Smiley

I don't see why zenPool would limit your choice of pools. They are simply providing a pool option that has never been offered by any other pool in the industry.

Cheer up suchmoon and join the pool...or you're sure to be left behind in terms of ROI. Wink
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
August 16, 2014, 08:35:35 PM
#26
Can you mine on any pool or only the ones you guys allow?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
August 16, 2014, 08:32:38 PM
#25
I purchased 1mhash hashlet, and observed my scrypt hashrate on my pool -- pointing said 1mhash to my pool had no affect on my hashrate at all.. awesome.

You don't get the rules of this game, you're not supposed to use those other pools that are listed only to show the superior profitability of ZenPool  Grin

I'm surprised they even allow to do that, but this will probably be fixed soon.
sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 254
Owner of MiningRigRentals
August 16, 2014, 08:26:50 PM
#24
I purchased 1mhash hashlet, and observed my scrypt hashrate on my pool -- pointing said 1mhash to my pool had no affect on my hashrate at all.. awesome.

LoL, how are you going to notice 1 mh?   Cheesy  Not that I believe they are.

Not hard when I'm looking at accounts I don't know who they belong to or new users Grin
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
HashHard
August 16, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
#23
I purchased 1mhash hashlet, and observed my scrypt hashrate on my pool -- pointing said 1mhash to my pool had no affect on my hashrate at all.. awesome.

LoL, how are you going to notice 1 mh?   Cheesy  Not that I believe they are.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1014
ex uno plures
August 16, 2014, 08:11:47 PM
#22
Thats why they call it virtual mining merx

~L)L~
sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 254
Owner of MiningRigRentals
August 16, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
#21
I purchased 1mhash hashlet, and observed my scrypt hashrate on my pool -- pointing said 1mhash to my pool had no affect on my hashrate at all.. awesome.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
August 16, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
#20
hopefully josh remembers to use the right account when he replies here....


(image too big to embed, worth the look though)

http://f.cl.ly/items/0i3Y2z0m1p3T2r45172P/2gaw.png
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
August 16, 2014, 07:12:54 PM
#19
What were the last blocks mined by zenpool? Can you please show us that information as well?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
August 16, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
#18
That's neither a pool nor a rental service.. so I'm a bit lost.

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-support/6264/40

Quote from: GAW_CEO
The hash rates there represents some of our excess hashing power mixed with ZenPool. In other words, much of it is our own.
We spent the last month buying up pools and a few rental services. We are leveraging a combination of different pools, trading, IPO coins, and rental services.

Yeah, I don't think that helps either, sorry.
sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 254
Owner of MiningRigRentals
August 16, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
#17
I think most if not all of these questions are "answered" by the Hashlet announcement:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

I believe a more accurate link to answer your questions can be found here:

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved/6125/289


The above link that moon mentions is filled with uneducated guesses and assumptions. Hope this helps! Smiley

The issue I can't seem to find a clear answer on is outlined in this screenshot from that hashtalk.org thread:
http://gyazo.com/b81573cf67eda7620bce27f20ae57181

I'm not really sure how buying pools and/or rental services will allow you to increase mining profits. Many of us have been doing this for a long time, and some of us own both a rental service and a pool (lol), and have yet to find that magic 'double' button you guys claim -- I'll keep looking though, that's for sure. Wink


I haven't seen any "rental services" or "pools" announced as acquisitions of GAW, nor heard of any acquisition or buyout of mainstream service providers. I would urge that everyone exercise extreme caution, because as is always the case, the more fantastic-sounding the claims.. the more unlikely to be true they are when zero evidence is being presented.

It is extremely easy to refute the major questions in this thread. Post some details of datacenters with mining equipment, and a transparent record of your actual blocks mined + transactions. That's what blockchains are for, and what nearly every pool out there does.

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-zenminer-8-million/

Glad to help you out Mate Smiley

I've also purchased several Hashlets... So far a seamless process.

That's neither a pool nor a rental service.. so I'm a bit lost.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
August 16, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
#16
I think most if not all of these questions are "answered" by the Hashlet announcement:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

I believe a more accurate link to answer your questions can be found here:

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved/6125/289


The above link that moon mentions is filled with uneducated guesses and assumptions. Hope this helps! Smiley

The issue I can't seem to find a clear answer on is outlined in this screenshot from that hashtalk.org thread:
http://gyazo.com/b81573cf67eda7620bce27f20ae57181

I'm not really sure how buying pools and/or rental services will allow you to increase mining profits. Many of us have been doing this for a long time, and some of us own both a rental service and a pool (lol), and have yet to find that magic 'double' button you guys claim -- I'll keep looking though, that's for sure. Wink


I haven't seen any "rental services" or "pools" announced as acquisitions of GAW, nor heard of any acquisition or buyout of mainstream service providers. I would urge that everyone exercise extreme caution, because as is always the case, the more fantastic-sounding the claims.. the more unlikely to be true they are when zero evidence is being presented.

It is extremely easy to refute the major questions in this thread. Post some details of datacenters with mining equipment, and a transparent record of your actual blocks mined + transactions. That's what blockchains are for, and what nearly every pool out there does.

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-zenminer-8-million/

Glad to help you out Mate Smiley

I've also purchased several Hashlets... So far a seamless process.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
August 16, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
#15
I think most if not all of these questions are "answered" by the Hashlet announcement:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

I believe a more accurate link to answer your questions can be found here:

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved/6125/289


The above link that moon mentions is filled with uneducated guesses and assumptions. Hope this helps! Smiley

The issue I can't seem to find a clear answer on is outlined in this screenshot from that hashtalk.org thread:
http://gyazo.com/b81573cf67eda7620bce27f20ae57181

I'm not really sure how buying pools and/or rental services will allow you to increase mining profits. Many of us have been doing this for a long time, and some of us own both a rental service and a pool (lol), and have yet to find that magic 'double' button you guys claim -- I'll keep looking though, that's for sure. Wink


I haven't seen any "rental services" or "pools" announced as acquisitions of GAW, nor heard of any acquisition or buyout of mainstream service providers. I would urge that everyone exercise extreme caution, because as is always the case, the more fantastic-sounding the claims.. the more unlikely to be true they are when zero evidence is being presented.

It is extremely easy to refute the major questions in this thread. Post some details of datacenters with mining equipment, and a transparent record of your actual blocks mined + transactions. That's what blockchains are for, and what nearly every pool out there does.

ZenPool is at 93 GH/s now. Presumably it's not mining LTC otherwise it wouldn't be able to meet its profitability target. That kind of hashrate will be noticed if it exists. Not sure how accurate CoinWarz is but all the other Scrypt coins combined don't seem to add up to much more than 100 GH/s.

https://zenminer.com/pool/ (scroll down)

http://www.coinwarz.com/miningprofitability/litecoin?sort=hashrate&dir=desc
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Mine the hottest new coins at ipoMiner.com
August 16, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
#14
I think extra vigilance is required lately before anyone invests because of the lunamine scam. I got the feeling that lunamine owners would try to come back with another scam so please so your due diligence before investing heavily.

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that GAW/ZenMiner are associated with lunamine, but there are multiple, very serious issues with GAW/ZenMiner that they do need to address.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Am i broke yet?
August 16, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
#13
so i just purchased a hashlet.  let me see a picture of what i bought. not the retail pic. i want to see the actual machine. plugged in, turned on, and running with the rest of the peoples hashlets that were purchased.

hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
August 16, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
#12
I think extra vigilance is required lately before anyone invests because of the lunamine scam. I got the feeling that lunamine owners would try to come back with another scam so please so your due diligence before investing heavily.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Mine the hottest new coins at ipoMiner.com
August 16, 2014, 05:18:40 PM
#11
I think most if not all of these questions are "answered" by the Hashlet announcement:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

I believe a more accurate link to answer your questions can be found here:

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved/6125/289


The above link that moon mentions is filled with uneducated guesses and assumptions. Hope this helps! Smiley

The issue I can't seem to find a clear answer on is outlined in this screenshot from that hashtalk.org thread:
http://gyazo.com/b81573cf67eda7620bce27f20ae57181

I'm not really sure how buying pools and/or rental services will allow you to increase mining profits. Many of us have been doing this for a long time, and some of us own both a rental service and a pool (lol), and have yet to find that magic 'double' button you guys claim -- I'll keep looking though, that's for sure. Wink


I haven't seen any "rental services" or "pools" announced as acquisitions of GAW, nor heard of any acquisition or buyout of mainstream service providers. I would urge that everyone exercise extreme caution, because as is always the case, the more fantastic-sounding the claims.. the more unlikely to be true they are when zero evidence is being presented.

It is extremely easy to refute the major questions in this thread. Post some details of datacenters with mining equipment, and a transparent record of your actual blocks mined + transactions. That's what blockchains are for, and what nearly every pool out there does.
member
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Merit: 10
HashHard
August 16, 2014, 04:23:10 PM
#10
Its interesting to see GAW/ZenMiner posting here on an unmoderated thread, given the extremely heavy handed moderation present on their own forum ("HashTalk") and discontinuation of their previous bitcointalk thread for GAW a while back. I'm eager to see what feedback and discussion we'll see in this thread, as most of the recent feedback on GAW/ZenMiner outside of HashTalk has been negative. Perhaps Eric can shed some light on several issues that have been banned from discussion on HashTalk or have failed to be addressed by Eric, Josh, Amber, or other GAW representatives:

1) Total lack of any real mining from ZenMiner Cloud, as confirmed by more than 50% of the pools ZenMiner Cloud claims to allow miners to select. No increase in hashrate, workers, etc. from ZenMiner Cloud, nor "affiliation" or "private stratums" that Eric/Josh have claimed in the past, as commented on by at least four of the ZenMiner Cloud user-selectable pools.

2) No documented evidence of physical miners or an actual datacenter presence, as much as you guys like to post photo/video propaganda of Josh being the "scrypt king" -- just seems odd you won't post any kind of proof.

3) Extremely heavy handed moderation on HashTalk of any discussion of these issues or any other question/topic that you dislike.

4) Increasingly large delays in shipping orders both from GAW and ZenMiner.

5) Decreasing amount of non-ZenMiner Cloud hardware available for purchase at GAW (and increasing prices on the few items that are available).

6) "Interest" on ZenMiner Cloud held-bitcoin -- seems an awful lot like a ponzi scheme.

7) Discontinuation of "founders club" benefits like the promised upgrade paths, free hosting for life, etc. without any announcement or discussion possible - again due to heavy handed moderation on HashTalk, and refusal of customer service representatives to address the issue.

These are great statements/questions.  I'm in no way affiliated with Zen or GAW, was just posting from my experience with them.  They have treated me very well, but not without hiccups. In my mind I assumed they were always using a larger machine or some type of cloud service the whole time.  When you wanted to take delivery they sent ya one from Hong Kong er where everdafuck they are producing them.  But I don't understand why they won't show any proof, of anything.  Since posting here, I've also noticed a couple of my questions and statements have been removed from Hashtalk.  I'm getting sketched out. Sad
sr. member
Activity: 354
Merit: 254
Owner of MiningRigRentals
August 16, 2014, 02:08:40 PM
#9
I think most if not all of these questions are "answered" by the Hashlet announcement:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

I believe a more accurate link to answer your questions can be found here:

https://hashtalk.org/t/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved/6125/289


The above link that moon mentions is filled with uneducated guesses and assumptions. Hope this helps! Smiley

The issue I can't seem to find a clear answer on is outlined in this screenshot from that hashtalk.org thread:
http://gyazo.com/b81573cf67eda7620bce27f20ae57181

I'm not really sure how buying pools and/or rental services will allow you to increase mining profits. Many of us have been doing this for a long time, and some of us own both a rental service and a pool (lol), and have yet to find that magic 'double' button you guys claim -- I'll keep looking though, that's for sure. Wink

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