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Quote from: GreenStox on March 21, 2015, 12:43:08 PM

Quote from: Hfleer on March 21, 2015, 12:31:20 PM

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

Yes my world view is really narrow because i dont give out 26.000$ to complete strangers which have no accountability and cant be caught if they run away with it...

The first rule of investing is risk control and that means that you must know the investment and the trustfulness of the owners before putting a dime in it.

Risking 0.001 BTC it wont make you rich, but it is for testing purpose, to see if they pay you or run away with the money.

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

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Quote from: Hfleer on March 21, 2015, 12:31:20 PM

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

Yes my world view is really narrow because i dont give out 26.000$ to complete strangers which have no accountability and cant be caught if they run away with it...

The first rule of investing is risk control and that means that you must know the investment and the trustfulness of the owners before putting a dime in it.

Risking 0.001 BTC it wont make you rich, but it is for testing purpose, to see if they pay you or run away with the money.

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Quote from: Hfleer on March 20, 2015, 08:37:27 PM

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits. Sad

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

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We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

100 BTC? C`mon guys, who would risk 100 BTC with unknown and unreachable people.

If they steal 100 BTC whan can you do about it?

Plus its just stupid, why would you invest 100BTC in it when others let you invest as little as 0.001 BTC, its just silly in my opinion

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

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Quote from: pooya87 on March 21, 2015, 01:12:12 AM

Quote from: Hfleer on March 20, 2015, 08:37:27 PM

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits. Sad

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

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We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

100 BTC? C`mon guys, who would risk 100 BTC with unknown and unreachable people.

If they steal 100 BTC whan can you do about it?

Plus its just stupid, why would you invest 100BTC in it when others let you invest as little as 0.001 BTC, its just silly in my opinion

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Quote from: pooya87 on March 21, 2015, 01:12:12 AM

Quote from: Hfleer on March 20, 2015, 08:37:27 PM

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits. Sad

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

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We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

I contacted them and inquired about an investment over 100 BTC. but they said that they are currently at capacity and don't accept new investments.

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Quote from: Hfleer on March 20, 2015, 08:37:27 PM

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits. Sad

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

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We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

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WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
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Nice said! Thanks for the information, I also was looking for some places to invest...

Keep in mind that investing in casinos can be risky. One whale can completely tank your entire bankroll (investment) and any profits you otherwise had. While you should be fine over long periods, it could take years to see realistic gains. And throughout that time you're hoping that the site doesn't shut down, the operator doesn't run with your money, the site isn't hacked or "hacked," etc.

I think a casino is a horrible investment. If you look at dice games it seems they work for a while until they get big then they have to move servers (possibly countries) and reopen or close.

And you have to trust a operator as mentioned. Hope they one day don't decide to ride into the sunset with your money.

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Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits. Sad

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Quote from: winchancer on March 13, 2015, 02:45:25 PM

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on March 12, 2015, 04:57:10 PM

Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
Cool

Nice said! Thanks for the information, I also was looking for some places to invest...

Keep in mind that investing in casinos can be risky. One whale can completely tank your entire bankroll (investment) and any profits you otherwise had. While you should be fine over long periods, it could take years to see realistic gains. And throughout that time you're hoping that the site doesn't shut down, the operator doesn't run with your money, the site isn't hacked or "hacked," etc.

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Seeing all the replies I think I should start with trading avoiding all gambling, mining etc.
That will be great to start with

I think if you invest in the gambling was pretty good, as in primedice and other dice games, because usually the owner of the dice always win, so you can gain enough

Ya but I think it will take more then 1yr to make enough profit for me from those site :/

why must wait one year? it's too long.
1 month may be enough, because like primedice I see it every day primedice there are thousands and even millions of bitcoin which do bet in there

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Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on March 12, 2015, 04:57:10 PM

Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
Cool

Nice said! Thanks for the information, I also was looking for some places to invest...

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Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
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Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

100% trust. Buy your coins trusting yourself 100% then keeping them in a wallet and making sure you have a backup and secured wallet. Save them for 6 to 8 months or longer and check price and sit on them and watch the price go up in time and that way you have a guaranteed pay back in the future if it goes up. Buy low sell high. Eat, Sleep, Buy low, Sell high Repeat. Profit

Well, yeah, you'd have a "guaranteed" return if it goes up. But who is to say it'll keep going up? Bitcoin is still very much experimental. The support behind it could just as easily move to a different crypto, leaving BTC to die later. It's still a very risky investment at this point.

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Quote from: crazyearner on March 11, 2015, 09:12:10 PM

Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

100% trust. Buy your coins trusting yourself 100% then keeping them in a wallet and making sure you have a backup and secured wallet. Save them for 6 to 8 months or longer and check price and sit on them and watch the price go up in time and that way you have a guaranteed pay back in the future if it goes up. Buy low sell high. Eat, Sleep, Buy low, Sell high Repeat. Profit

Very true.

It is mindboggeling that most people don't think that bitcoin alone is a big investment. Are those people trying to invest their Google Stock? Like lending them out? If not, why not?

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Quote from: ubitcoin on February 26, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

100% trust. Buy your coins trusting yourself 100% then keeping them in a wallet and making sure you have a backup and secured wallet. Save them for 6 to 8 months or longer and check price and sit on them and watch the price go up in time and that way you have a guaranteed pay back in the future if it goes up. Buy low sell high. Eat, Sleep, Buy low, Sell high Repeat. Profit

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Quote from: Possum577 on March 11, 2015, 04:35:10 PM

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Insider trading is illegal and immoral, but it's probably the best way to generate a huge profit with minimal risk, if the guy you're talking to is a person you know and trust. Probably the best option to go for if you're trading altcoins etc., as there's lots of people on the dark net who can provide those kind of information.

regardless if its immoral or not, people do it lol

its called capitalism and those who can get away with it will do it over again.

Insider trading might be immoral but it is definately not illegal in all markets. Bitcoin and altcoin markets are not regulated and can thus not be under normal regulation regarding insider trading.

And because of that, some people who have some solid connections to the exchanges do this, generating themselves huge profits. I would admit that if I have that some kind of connection, I would sometimes do it for the sake of profit. Not being greedy or evil, but just being practical.

There is no obligation whatsoever to not do it. You actually make the markets more efficient by doing it. "invisible hand" kind of thing Wink

Hahah, definitely not an "invisible hand" kind of thing, but that's pretty funny.

What kind of inside information? There's no "news" to be on the inside of for any of these coins. This is just price manipulation. If create PossumCoin I can do whatever I want to the price to satisfy whatever motive I want. It's definitely a shitty move on my part, and not likely to lead to PossumCoin success but criminal activity is always possible.

The only guaranteed way to get a return is to invest in yourself.

I define insider trading as using an information only a person on the inside have, that will move the market if it was public. ( That is also how it is defined in the laws)

What you are referring to is just hype for pump and dumps, that is something substantially different.

My situation: You know that your coin gets listed on Bitfinex in 2 days and buy a shitton of it.

Your situation: You buy a shitton and then create a big rumor that Bitfinex will list it in 2 days, even though it won't and you dump into the buyers.

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Quote from: DoppelgangerUK on March 11, 2015, 04:31:41 PM

BTC gains value by usage, it is not an asset at all, it is a way of trading value securely without centralised banks

Where it looks like an asset is, in the early years of the transition from fiat to BTC, going to show up the ones who sat on their coins and sold them for fiat

But if the whole world accepted BTC what are you going to sell it for?

As it becomes accepted down supply roots i.e. ; coffee shop owner sells you cups of coffee for BTC because they can buy beans for BTC because the bean farmers can buy fertiliser and tools and pay workers in BTC and the workers can buy food and pay rent with BTC. I'm missing out a few steps but you get the idea.

With any luck in some years we may be able to leave this fiat shite way behind us...

A lot of debate exists about this. There's no value to be gained if BTC is primarily a currency, much like investing in currencies isn't a thing people do. People speculate on currencies to take advantage of short term differences in value between two currencies but if you hold Euros, you're not earning a return. BTC could very well be an asset class if it remains an "alternative currency" to fiat options. If it replaces fiat options we'll see the currency reality you're predicting.

Even as a currency, it could go up in value. Just like we hold cash now, people would hold bitcoins. And the more people there are holding them, the more their value goes up.

It's an interesting experiment, to be sure. But keep in mind that the reason the dollar is inflating is because people are holding and the government keeps printing more to cover debts (or something along those lines. If everyone spent all their money, the debt, I believe, would be nonexistent due to significant taxes, which would be funneled back into the economy).

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Quote from: DoppelgangerUK on March 11, 2015, 04:31:41 PM

BTC gains value by usage, it is not an asset at all, it is a way of trading value securely without centralised banks

Where it looks like an asset is, in the early years of the transition from fiat to BTC, going to show up the ones who sat on their coins and sold them for fiat

But if the whole world accepted BTC what are you going to sell it for?

As it becomes accepted down supply roots i.e. ; coffee shop owner sells you cups of coffee for BTC because they can buy beans for BTC because the bean farmers can buy fertiliser and tools and pay workers in BTC and the workers can buy food and pay rent with BTC. I'm missing out a few steps but you get the idea.

With any luck in some years we may be able to leave this fiat shite way behind us...

A lot of debate exists about this. There's no value to be gained if BTC is primarily a currency, much like investing in currencies isn't a thing people do. People speculate on currencies to take advantage of short term differences in value between two currencies but if you hold Euros, you're not earning a return. BTC could very well be an asset class if it remains an "alternative currency" to fiat options. If it replaces fiat options we'll see the currency reality you're predicting.

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