Topic: [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia - page 4. (Read 3725 times)

i'm also glad to be here to answer all your suspicions of me. and i will be happy to explain if indeed this is my real account.


it's true that my laptop broke down a few months ago. i store all data separately. such as login id, bitcoin wallet address, market login id etc. i save it on my flash disk. and like wallet login passwords, market login passwords, etc., i save them on the laptop desktop. the reason i save it separately is because for me it's very safe when storing id and password separately so that no one can find out.
but there are some data stored on my flash disk such as erc20 which i used to join the bounty. and i can still use the erc20 wallet because the wallet address and private key are not stored separately.


1. the reason the posting pattern has changed is because in the past i only participated in several bounty campaigns, signature campaigns and game rounds in this forum. and the rules for signature campaigns used to be different from now. in the past, only a few characters of writing did not have to be 150 characters and it was not allowed to post too many gambling boards.
2. the reason my current post pattern has changed to more than 150 characters is because after i left this forum for a long time, i decided to come back and join the signature campaign payment BTC to look for capital to play gambling again.
and you also certainly understand how if you join the signature campaign payments BTC  must be posted on several gambling boards with good quality. unlike signature campaigns payment token.
so if my post changes not because of the reason my account is sold, hacked or changed hands. but because the situation in the past was different from what it is now.


as i said above. i keep it separately. and there is some data that is still stored on my flash disk that i can still access. maybe because of my stupidity i can't manage to save some of my personal data properly.


if i work with an account seller and ask to send shitcoins from that address just to prove that this account is mine, why don't i just ask to sign message the bitcoin address above?
if i can ask the seller to send shitcoins to a specific address, i'd better ask the seller to sign message bitcoin address so that this problem is resolved quickly and my reputation is not destroyed.


but what if your suspicions are wrong??
as i said above. i used to only join the bounty campaign and signature campaign. and now i am join a signature campaign payment BTC with a rule of more than 150 characters. and one more thing you should remember. not all posts in my past are just one line.


i already said that i lost some access to my bitcoin wallet. i can only access the erc20 wallet. because in the past i only focused on the bounty campaign and signature campaign.
do i prove it in a way send some eth using that erc20 address not something reasonable?

I like that other user join me in the fight against account selling. There are many cases where users change their posting behavior after coming back to the forum after some time. The problem is often that it can have several reasons and also most of the times can not be proven why the posting behavior changed and therefor it is in my eyes not possible to tag the account. For example if your plan is to join a signature campaign that requires posting in the gaming section, than it is possible that you start to post there to have a better chance to be accepted in the signature campaign.
Yes you can give a neutral tag, but the point of this thread was to find sold account with 100% proof by talking to account sellers or other ways that can give you 100% proof. If we can not have a 100 % it will lead to tagging people wrongly and possible destroying there reputation on the forum for no reason.

I don't think changing passwords and posting patterns for the better is a reason to say someone has changed hands. In my opinion, any user can change their password and email for security reasons, but indeed people will be suspicious when the user has just been active for a long time.

In this case I understand why you suspect len01, but I think you should consider the reasons why he should change his account password. Digital devices such as laptop and flashdisk are quite susceptible to damage, so there might be a good reason. len01 can also prove he has an account if he can sign message from an ethereum address, but for something like sending coins/tokens from that address then I think he should create another wallet and post his tx here. So don't force other people to do it from a btc address after they tell you about losing access to the wallet, while len01 can also prove it with an ethereum address. Try to lighten other people's problems and I think it will be good to consider wisely. But wait, I have nothing to do with len01, but here I am just expressing my opinion.

First, I'm glad you came here to explain my concern about your account being hacked, sold, or changing hands. Then, you can convince me in any way as long as the reasons and evidence you have are reasonable and valid as proof that you are still the original owner.

About your reasons saying that your laptop broke in the last few months so you have to change your account password and loss of access to the wallet until you can't sign messages, seems to be common reasons that are often used by new users from accounts being sold, hacked or changed hands. That's a weak enough reason to convince people to believe that you're still the primary owner of the account. Then your posting pattern seems to have completely changed even though you could tell that you are also a poster who likes to post on gambling boards.

You say your laptop is broken and all the data stored on the flashdisk has been lost, then how can you still save the actual ERC20 address you used in the same year as this bitcoin address 19a7UVCra8iTPs3X8jPxw6PoTyG9nNC2x and it's only a few months apart? Now, I don't think your logic is correct because if all your data is lost then you should also no longer have access to that ERC20 address. What if you work with an account seller and you ask him to send some shitcoins from that address as proof that the account is yours?


Before you change the password of this account, I can absolutely prove that you are a poster who usually posts one line. But after changing your password your posting pattern has changed so it is natural for me to suspect that you are no longer the primary owner of the account regardless of whether it was hacked, sold, or changed hands.

So if you want to prove that you are the main owner of this account especially after you have been inactive for a long time and changed the account password then prove it by sign message or something reasonable.

previously have you checked my posts in 2016?

i started joining gambling boards because i already like gambling before leaving the forums in 2018
and i just changed the password only. i don't deceive anyone on this forum and i don't make spam shit post. so no need to accuse me with your suspicions

Sent several altcoin asset to people claimed about your account have change hands,

How if your investigating wrong and @len01 can show he is the real owner, will you ask forgiveness and promised not made any report again?

for this problem i will answer slowly.
the reason i changed the password for this account was because all the data such as the emails i saved on my laptop were lost. my laptop was broken a few months ago, i can't use it anymore

and for the btc wallet problem i only store the address on the flash disk and some login ids. but my btc blockchain login password is missing along with other data. because i save the id and password separately.


but i still have data on the wallet erc20 0xcdD493d4f50c1997649A2c77d296d3C6506ac40D which i used to join the bounty last year.


is there any other solution besides using btc wallet signature? or i can use the erc20 wallet and send something to prove this is indeed my account. i just lost some of my data that was on the laptop

You can always send a neutral feedback as it dosnt really effects the Account , as it says its " neutral " .
If you  are not to 100% sure that the Account has changed hands its the best way with a neutral tag , and you will see how the User will be act after it.
You can change the feedback laters or delete it when the things clear in this case.

My suspicions about one other account being sold, heacked or change hands.

This user has been inactive for a long time, and his last post was on January 3, 2018 and after that he left the forum without any activity. Then on June 7th he came back and changed his password and started signing up for the campaign on the same date. The odd thing I found clearly was that he started posting more actively on the gambling board than before he left the forum. The posting patterns are different ^{[check post history]} and these are the two things that might make me think this account has changed hands.

Profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/len01-854735

Here are some of the bitcoin addresses he used before being inactive for a long time. But after he came back and changed his password then I think he should prove account ownership by signing message from some address below.


*Is it possible to send a neutral tag until he can clear up the situation?

Add them to the list too, but tell me about one thing; Would this thread be a thread to list all account sold ^{[recently and in the past]} instead of a specific about some accounts being sold based on your investigation?

I've asked him to do so, but haven't responded to anything. If maybe he ignored it more than 7 days since that post, I think we can tag it again until there is evidence to neutralize the situation.

Those are accounts that were previously up for sale and were exposed by other people. I added them to have a more complete list where people can easily look up what accounts were sold. You can see the proof link that I gave for more detail about how and why the account was exposed for changing hands.

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About jkoil I also hope that the original owner can get access to his account and proof that in some way. I don't want to neg trust an account but if he simply stop to reply after he is asked for at least some little proof than I don't think there is another option. People that deal with the account can klick the ref link and see for them self if they want to trust or not.

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Updated the list with the accounts that were mentioned in the thread that LoyceV mentioned.

Almost missed out this two but before I flag them using the same reference, are glandall and nandnor also part of the accounts that were up for sale by the same account seller?

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I do really hope he comes around to clear it up.

I'm in support of the flag for now as @jkoil doesn't respond to anything to prove its account ownership. He didn't even bother to post proof that his e-mail had been recovered so he could reset his account password.

I'll be back to review and remove flag support if that user manages to prove a few things. Also, I'm not going to break his account, so I hope he can prove that for us here.

Thats interesting , as i got also a personal message from that User yesterday where he asking about to remove my support of the Flag i supported .
After i have readed the Topic in Meta about that Account i removed it and now i am reading this one here and thanks for the head ups logfiles.
Will support the Flag again and also will remove it when its confirmed that the Account is back to the owner.
And i will give the Account 10 Days for now on and if he dosnt proof it to us it i will tag the Account , also i dont want to destroy the Account.

Hey, just saw a Pm from you.

I am not the kind of person who would love to destroy someone's account, especially if they are the real owner. I need to be sure you are the original owner of the account and not the same account seller trying to trick us.

Could at least prove that you are indeed the original owner, like show us the recovery message from Google. I am pretty sure they sent one to you. Make sure you blur off any sensitive information, but be sure important things like the date the email was sent can be seen. It should have been easier if you have any staked Bitcoin address.

I will remove my tag if this is confirmed.

Clearly, this is meant to repair his trust score after the account changed hands. As nutildah pointed out, jkoil has a dramatically different language style now.


This is just not credible to me. I don't believe his email was compromised at all and he even contacted Google. Getting a reply from Google within a day is virtually impossible.

Not here, I'm sure it will take a little longer because the service will review it first. The one that best supports my assumption is because jkoil once said:


So the Google support team conducts a review first before sending the password reset link. I assume the restore action will take a bit of time as google is not as easy to believe in fairy tales. If he manages to recover his e-mail, that means he also knows how to prove ownership of his account here and I think he should do it to assuage those doubts.

I already wrote on another topic that it is rather suspicious that a user who knows about various kinds of password generators allows his e-mail to be hacked.
In addition, his language has deteriorated significantly compared to the posts that were written earlier.


Does anyone here believe in a quick response from Google support, and getting mail back on rather peculiar questions? And also does anyone remember the dates of creation of their emails?

I checked the seclog myself, there are indeed no recorded dealings with the bitcointalk recovery team.

I'd say the account seller/new owner is trying to salvage their already neg trusted account by making up a sob story about how they were hacked.


^ Lol, Busted!

Guys what do you think about account jkoil? It was 100% sold and now the owner of the account claims that he got back his email address via google and therefore is again in control of his account. While I want to believe that this is true, without proof the buyer could easily claim the same. See here for reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-hero-member-account-hacked-please-help-5405076 .
What I can see from https://bpip.org/Profile?id=206476 is that he for sure did not deal with bitcointalk recovery team. There is also no proof of dealing with google recovery team.


added user glandall to list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=44649 proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-or-sold-profiles-tagged-by-veleor-5190670 )
added user nandnor to list (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nandnor-6 proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16194427 )