[Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia - page 3.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on July 26, 2022, 06:09:16 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2022, 01:12:52 AM

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I also don't understand why the mod hasn't banned that user since the report was made. I just think the available evidence might still make it difficult for mods to make a decision and they want to follow it up on a case by case basis.

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I am in the same side in that issue: I suggested that accounts could be frozen, but it seems that the evidences are not enough to such an operation. I guess it must be in that way to avoid some kind of teasing and interference (making wrong accusations against someone).

Anyway, there could be some phase in the investigation, where the evidences are enough to freeze the account (partially), though the final result/decision is not yet made. Ofc, depending on the tech capabilities of the BTT databases (rollback etc), the freezing may be needless.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2022, 01:12:52 AM

Well that's another story, and looks like @Docnaster is at least guilty of ban evasion. I am surprised to see that he hasn't been banned already since lovesmayfamilies found that connection with banned account year ago. Maybe the fact that he hasn't been active at that moment saved him for getting banned, but now that he is active once again I expect it to happen very soon.

I also don't understand why the mod hasn't banned that user since the report was made. I just think the available evidence might still make it difficult for mods to make a decision and they want to follow it up on a case by case basis.

But now, lovemayfamilis has tagged it. Should there be more tags, or maybe someone should report them again?

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Another hacked or sold account. User: topman21
And, interestingly, this account had three owners in its history.

The first owner wrote in the Indonesian and English sections.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9165417
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9254710

Quote from: topman21 on October 19, 2014, 09:43:44 AM

Kayaknya kalo terjadi masalah sprt itu mesti tunggu ada laporan invalid atau failed gan, tapi kalo misalkan kita salah masukin no hp org lain itu menjadi resiko kita, pulsa gak masuk dan btc ilang.

Then the language of the posts changes to Russian. In May 2015, posts abruptly change the language to Russian
Russian language continues until April 2019

Quote from: topman21 on April 15, 2019, 12:59:25 PM

У мeня пpaвилo - нe oдaлживaть никoмy, пoтoм нaдeгaeшьcя... нo и caм в дoлг нe бepy никoгдa, пpeдпoчитaю кaк тo пepeтoптaтьcя бeз тoгo, чтo бы быть кoмy тo дoлжным.

In April 2022, the account wakes up and immediately submits participation in the bounty.
The Russian language has been completely absent since then
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59741515

And today's last owner, a top-level spammer, writes in bad English. Neither Russian nor Indonesian is found anymore.

There are bitcoin addresses that the owner of this account can verify. In this case, we can believe that he is a polyglot and speaks several languages at the same time.

For now, I'll give it a negative tag.

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1EAtusRpoPpte1nV3g8Pe39HvFLMSCcmfq
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Quote from: _BlackStar on July 25, 2022, 03:32:44 PM

But you guys definitely want to see this one.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on March 09, 2021, 05:17:56 AM

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Well that's another story, and looks like @Docnaster is at least guilty of ban evasion. I am surprised to see that he hasn't been banned already since lovesmayfamilies found that connection with banned account year ago. Maybe the fact that he hasn't been active at that moment saved him for getting banned, but now that he is active once again I expect it to happen very soon.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 25, 2022, 12:27:22 PM

This user is known for baseless accusations so don't expect him providing any info why he thinks that account changed hands. For him its enough to someone change the email address (like in this case) to think that account has been sold, while people can do that for myriad of reasons.

Parodium has tagged the user for the same reason even though the tag is untrusted at this time. I don't know what caused him to flag that user ^{[no reference],} but from 2021 to 2022 this user has changed his password 3 times and now his email has changed.

It might be good if he signed bitcoin messages to prove ownership of the account, but I don't think I would suspect more people because of password and email changes unless their posting patterns change drastically.

But you guys definitely want to see this one.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on March 09, 2021, 05:17:56 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on March 08, 2021, 10:21:46 AM

So, Docnaster is certainly alt of spiker777?

Yes, it probably doesn't have an original owner. Look at this accusation.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17186132

And after that, we see the same picture. The account offers itself as collateral.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17951246

Further, the style of speech changes. Previously, the owner was from the Philippines and had poor English. But in March 2018, English changes, and most interestingly, wallet numbers are also edited on the same day, March 24, 2018.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spectre-social-media-campaign-1680832
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsler-signature-avatar-campaign-closing-friday-1589966
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/twitter-campign-vdice-crowdsale-closed-1645630
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-mbit-casino-signature-campaign-00008-btcpost-sr-members-1661862

But DarkStar quotes the message, and we see which address was hidden.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16731559

I will not say 100 percent, but whoever reads the posts of Parodium, will find a special similarity to what Docnaster writes.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52750820

And today I can say that Docnaster is evading the ban, even though he is not active at this time.

Ban evasion.
Prettygirl01315 Autoban user
Docnaster

Quote from: Prettygirl01315 on February 08, 2016, 09:36:02 AM

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on October 30, 2016, 02:13:59 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Name : Docnaster
Rank : Sr. Member
Post Count : 521
BTCitcoin Address : 1J8wuBfkzQ4X91q5NU6EVxp5abeUEZhnDP

Let me know when accepted so i will put signature.

Then this one too.

Quote from: Sponsoredby15 on February 06, 2017, 06:54:04 AM

Btctalk Name : Sponsoredby15
Rank : Full Member
Current post count : 740 +1
Btc address : 37sKu6AvJveFDH6pBSFKVB8DeNwR5PVHtk
Wearing Avatar : Yes

Quote from: Docnaster on February 23, 2017, 10:07:58 AM

Hi can anyone lend me?

Loan amount: 0.04 BTC
Interest: 25%
BTC address: 37sKu6AvJveFDH6pBSFKVB8DeNwR5PVHtk
Reason: Gambling
Term length: 10 DAYS or earlier!
Collateral: My bitcointalk account?

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Quote from: hZti on July 25, 2022, 09:27:59 AM

Since you don't give any more details and also do not reply here or via PM there is no possibility to investigate this. I appreciate the input but with this low effort there is simply no use in it.

This user is known for baseless accusations so don't expect him providing any info why he thinks that account changed hands. For him its enough to someone change the email address (like in this case) to think that account has been sold, while people can do that for myriad of reasons.

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Quote from: notscam on July 17, 2022, 10:43:26 PM

This account has been sold, please investigate
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/docnaster-668651

Since you don't give any more details and also do not reply here or via PM there is no possibility to investigate this. I appreciate the input but with this low effort there is simply no use in it.

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This account has been sold, please investigate
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/docnaster-668651

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 15, 2022, 12:40:56 PM

Quote from: hZti on July 15, 2022, 02:35:40 AM

Otherwise I kind of feel the same, that the style of writing is not the same anymore, but that can have many different reasons.

Can you please tell me how to change the writing style from good to bad, while remaining the same person

? Besides, why? And as a result of getting so many deleted posts?

I don't say that it is likely that it is the same person but I think we can not simply say his writing style changed and therefore we ruin the reputation of the account by creating a flag or give neg trust. You have to consider that he left the forum for 8 (!) years. There can be a lot going on in this time. It is not that I think he is the same person, but I think there is a slight chance. So I would give him the opportunity to proof himself.

What is shady as fuck again is that he posts in the same time like other sold/hacked accounts. This makes me think all the accounts are owned by the same person or group.

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Quote from: hZti on July 15, 2022, 02:35:40 AM

Otherwise I kind of feel the same, that the style of writing is not the same anymore, but that can have many different reasons.

Can you please tell me how to change the writing style from good to bad, while remaining the same person

? Besides, why? And as a result of getting so many deleted posts?

Yes, I did not find a single wallet in his history from which he could prove his authenticity, but from his first posts, you can see the speech of a person who did not learn about cryptocurrencies yesterday. And the second owner, and I am sure that he is the second, dreams of only one thing, to gamble to get rich Grin

, or rather, to participate in subscription companies, and stupidly fill the required number of posts

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Quote from: coinerer on July 14, 2022, 10:20:27 AM

Note : If this account is sold or hacked then this account must be reset reset password by email or change password in normal way. Have you got any such evidence? Why wouldn't anyone buy an account and change the password for that account? Or how can a hacker get access to an account without resetting the password?

As I was going through your bitcointalk post history I could see that in the past you have participated in many coin giveaways also of very popular coins like Litcoin and Dogecoin. Also you seem to have mined Litecoin wich makes me think that this could be the one wallet you would keep the private key most likely. If you could simply make a transaction with an address that was posted on the forum it could easily proof that you are the original owner. Otherwise I kind of feel the same, that the style of writing is not the same anymore, but that can have many different reasons.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 14, 2022, 10:40:17 AM

That was not the question. Did you buy this account? Are you also ready to prove that you were previously a miner and were a fan of the Quark coin?
For some reason, I'm pretty sure you're not the original owner of this account.
Your English has deteriorated. How do you explain it? And also how do you explain writing such posts, having a very good experience in cryptocurrency behind your back?

No need to tell me how accounts are bought, while neither the password nor the mail changes, this is an old trick.

I'm not here to argue with you. You are one of the wisest person on this forum. Maybe I don't have the knowledge to argue with you. But I want to say that the access to this account is still with the original owner. Accepting it is a personal matter of your. I don't want to say much about it

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 14, 2022, 10:40:17 AM

Quote from: coinerer on January 07, 2014, 10:28:17 AM

How I was stupid. Grin

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60422506.html

foolish, stupid, mindless, goofy, dopey We usually use these words as adjectives. So, from there i was used a word Undecided

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Quote from: coinerer on July 14, 2022, 10:20:27 AM

Note : If this account is sold or hacked then this account must be reset reset password by email or change password in normal way. Have you got any such evidence? Why wouldn't anyone buy an account and change the password for that account? Or how can a hacker get access to an account without resetting the password?

That was not the question. Did you buy this account? Are you also ready to prove that you were previously a miner and were a fan of the Quark coin?
For some reason, I'm pretty sure you're not the original owner of this account.
Your English has deteriorated. How do you explain it? And also how do you explain writing such posts, having a very good experience in cryptocurrency behind your back?

No need to tell me how accounts are bought, while neither the password nor the mail changes, this is an old trick.

Quote from: coinerer on January 07, 2014, 10:28:17 AM

How I was stupid. Grin

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60422506.html

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I rarely meet investors at an already respectful age - more than 45. I think that people at this age either no longer think about such investments, or I just don’t know such investments.

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Yes i been more then 45 years people using btc and investing on btc a much more. Because in this time they are in charge of a family so they are more inclined to seek income .so they take different approaches . And they lean towards Bitcoin
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60422506.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60429095.html

I mean here that in my opinion people above age 45 use Bitcoin more. Here I am not saying that I have been using Bitcoin for 45 years. It was my typing mistake. Shocked

How can I use bitcoin for 45 years where bitcoin has been created for 13 years and my age is 27

Note : If this account is sold or hacked then this account must be reset reset password by email or change password in normal way. Have you got any such evidence? Why wouldn't anyone buy an account and change the password for that account? Or how can a hacker get access to an account without resetting the password?

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Since this thread is already talking about sold or hacked accounts, I want to add one more and listen to the true story or not.

coinerer

The account has been inactive five years.

Quote from: smartaction on June 22, 2022, 09:51:13 AM

Quote from: coinerer on June 22, 2022, 08:10:17 AM

In this time it seems that I am new on btt forum coz I was active on this forum till 2017 after that I akip using this forum .

I seen you was supper active in 2016 and in 2017 you made only few post. I first guessed it was either a hacked account or a sold out account. but as bpip.org report i seen this account password not reset or change was not change anydays he he. Welcome mate for come back to forum again and choice gambling section .

In the past, he was a miner, he created the wallet himself.

Quote from: coinerer on July 09, 2014, 01:13:38 PM

This is my small step into supporting development of QuarkCoin. It is not too much maybe.

I made new Quark Wallet and simple page at

http://quarkcoin.orgfree.com/

with latest libraries used. Direct link to the newest Quark Windows wallet at

Now his posts are just about nothing. In addition, the owner cannot remember how old he really is.

Based on his posts, at the time when he registered, he was 16 years old. OK.
We see from the initial posts that this is a miner, he created the wallet himself.
Conclusions: talent.

Five years later, he returned, which means he is 21. But no, he is 27, and maybe much more. He writes about age in the same topic.
In addition to all this, his posts are very different from those posts that he wrote earlier.

Quote from: ?? on ??

I am only 27 years old .and I am using cryptocurrency & I am using this forum from 2013 . When I was 16 years old . But I was folish then I see Bitcoin price $60-70 but I didn't hold Bitcoin then. If I was bought and keep holding 10-12 btc . Now I could make a huge profit and get rich

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: sklopan on June 23, 2022, 03:58:04 PM

I rarely meet investors at an already respectful age - more than 45. I think that people at this age either no longer think about such investments, or I just don’t know such investments.

Yes i been more then 45 years people using btc and investing on btc a much more. Because in this time they are in charge of a family so they are more inclined to seek income .so they take different approaches . And they lean towards Bitcoin

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60422506.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6042/60429095.html

Please check his history.
I will invite him to this topic.

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i apologize if there is an fault when writing the signature.
because from the first i didn't really understand how to make a sign a message

Code:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

Date: 2022-07-14
Bitcointalk.org login: len01 (854735)
my erc20 wallet address : 0xcdD493d4f50c1997649A2c77d296d3C6506ac40D

PGP fingerprints:
RSA: 0xEFF74F309B06340AF6A0B9CABE1249BD6029DBF9


0xcdD493d4f50c1997649A2c77d296d3C6506ac40D send to 0x220C3210d462B58dFd1cEc1242B1e8e69F675287

Tx hash : 0x379ed110a571da5b8f22065c3598199ede41f23d76cbbd1ba935d6318eda55ab


I declare that the wallet address erc20 0xcdD493d4f50c1997649A2c77d296d3C6506ac40D is my authenticity.
and wallet address erc20 0x220C3210d462B58dFd1cEc1242B1e8e69F675287 is only for proof of transaction.


if anyone claims or plagiarizes my wallet address 0xcdD493d4f50c1997649A2c77d296d3C6506ac40D it's not me
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@len01
I received your pm you sended to me and i appreciate it that you trust me and for now your Account isnt tagged or something !
Also the picture you sended to me hopefully you are just have sended it to me and to nobody else.
As on this picture there you can see all the private keys , and seeds for the Wallets , all kind of other login details, Please dont do this again, you can send me a pm but without any personal details.
Because its your personal datails and loggins for your stuff and nobody should be know this things.
I am deleting the pm with the picture and as i am a good guy i dont have written down or safed the keys or any stuff from there.

Quote from: len01 on July 13, 2022, 07:25:20 AM

i already said that i lost some access to my bitcoin wallet. i can only access the erc20 wallet.

As mentioned already just make a signed message from your ERC20 wallet and all should be good.

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Quote from: len01 on July 13, 2022, 07:25:20 AM

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First of all, you should understand that I'm not trying to damage your account reputation for no apparent reason ^{[I didn't even tag you until now].} You just woke up from a long period of inactivity and you changed your password immediately, so it's natural to assume you've changed hands regardless of whether it was hacked or sold. There are a lot of shady things being done on this forum including one of them is account selling.

Quote from: len01 on July 13, 2022, 07:25:20 AM

i already said that i lost some access to my bitcoin wallet. i can only access the erc20 wallet. because in the past i only focused on the bounty campaign and signature campaign.
do i prove it in a way send some eth using that erc20 address not something reasonable?

As Radja Rimba suggests, you can prove it by using the ERC20 wallet to dispel this suspicion. I will try to understand your reasoning, it can happen to anyone. Don't be angry, just do it casually if you really are the owner of this account.

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Quote from: Radja Rimba on July 13, 2022, 11:17:53 AM

I think it will prove that you are still the same owner and I thought it would be a reasonable proof for everyone.

Don't worry, no one can tag you if you are completely innocent. So after you managed to prove it then your problem I think is solved.

I think the same, I don't want to tag an innocent account and _BlackStar also doesn't want to ruin the reputation of an account that was not actually sold. The only reason this tread is here and the suspicions are there, is because there is a lot of shady things in this forum that the mods don't care about or don't have the time and energy to sort out. So if you can sign a message or send an specific amount for example 0.01337 ETH I think everyone will be happy.

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Quote from: len01 on July 13, 2022, 07:25:20 AM

do i prove it in a way send some eth using that erc20 address not something reasonable?

Dude don't worry, just do it. Create your new wallet (ethereum address) and send something from old wallet to new wallet and show proof of tx hash here. I think it will prove that you are still the same owner and I thought it would be a reasonable proof for everyone.

Don't worry, no one can tag you if you are completely innocent. So after you managed to prove it then your problem I think is solved.

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