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legendary
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Old days used to be different, those were the times when one wouldn't need to verify their identity before they could make deposits and withdrawals in a casino platform even if the amount was very large because there was no such concept back then, and those were the times when one could invest their money in a casino's bankroll and earn a reasonable amount in return for doing that because there were not a lot of investors in those days and casinos used to have smaller bankrolls which was why they used to accept investments.

Current platforms, I don't know all of them but from the ones that I have used and know, Blackjack.fun does have an option for their customers to make investments, I haven't tried it so I don't know the percentage they are sharing but you can give it a try and see if it suits your desires.

Yeah. Those were the days. Investing in a casino's bankroll without KYC was one of the features that made crypto casinos different from their Fiat counterparts. I guess increasing regulations in the crypto industry led many casino operators to remove the option. Aside from the fact that most of them have large bankrolls (which means they don't need direct investments from crypto "hodlers").

At least, not all hope is lost. We still have Bustabit, Bustadice, and Bitvest. I'm yet to try the Blackjack.fun website you've mentioned. Hopefully, we'd get to see more options with the advent of decentralized gambling. Who knows if you'd be able to earn bankroll profits just by "hodling" the decentralized casino's token? To avoid scrutiny from the regulators, it's best to design something like this in a discreet way. The future can't be predicted, so let's hope for the best.  Undecided
hero member
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Old days used to be different, those were the times when one wouldn't need to verify their identity before they could make deposits and withdrawals in a casino platform even if the amount was very large because there was no such concept back then, and those were the times when one could invest their money in a casino's bankroll and earn a reasonable amount in return for doing that because there were not a lot of investors in those days and casinos used to have smaller bankrolls which was why they used to accept investments.

Current platforms, I don't know all of them but from the ones that I have used and know, Blackjack.fun does have an option for their customers to make investments, I haven't tried it so I don't know the percentage they are sharing but you can give it a try and see if it suits your desires.
legendary
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Nope, they don't belong to decentralized casinos but they belong to the known centralized casinos as for fun token, it's owned by freebitco.in and for BFG, it's owned by betfury. So, if you think that you can earn more with the centralized tokens, then that should be your choice for them because they're actually from the centralized casinos that are known in here. And those that have you mentioned are the ones known to have the bankroll investments from the forum, I'm not sure about the other platforms outside the forum.

Cool. I'm going to check it out to see if it's worth it. As long as the tokens are profitable, nothing else matters. I guess token holders will receive a share from the bankroll's profits, right? If we had a decentralized casino with such feature, it would've been great. Would you imagine decentralized casinos governed by a DAO in the future? Token holders would be able to dictate the future direction of the project. I know centralized casinos will stil be relevant, but at least gamblers will have a choice.

Exciting times ahead for both the crypto and gambling industry. I sure hope we'd still have the option to invest in a casino's bankroll in the future. The numbers of casinos accepting bankroll investments are limited, but it's better something than nothing. Cheesy
legendary
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Since there is only one that offers to invest in a bankroll out of hundreds of existing casinos I don't think it's worth it in 2024, they prefer to have all the profit and not share it with investors they find it more profitable if they have high rollers playing in their platform, so they concentrate on marketing, if you want profit sharing Funtoken and BFG share their profit by staking their token.
This one is worth it is like investing in a casino also.

I guess these tokens belong to decentralized casinos, right? I think there's a higher chance of making profits in a centralized casino than a decentralized one. After all, centralized casinos are the ones dominating the gambling industry. Our options of investing into a casino's bankroll are limited. The only ones I could find are Bustadice, Bustabit, and Bitvest. They aren't as big as the one under my sig, but it's better something than nothing.

With BTC constantly going up in price, we should be able to obtain massive returns in our bankroll investment over the long term. The high network fees is a dealbreaker, though. Especially when you want to deposit/withdraw in/out of the casino. Crypto.Games accepts altcoins, unlike the sites mentioned previously. But it stopped accepting bankroll investments for some reason. Maybe someday they'll change their mind? Cheesy

Investing in a casino token depends on the performance of the casino also. The development plans of the team itself is also vital in progressing the value of the token. Right now, it is quite hard to hold casino tokens in long-term basis. In my opinion, better hold your funds in bitcoin. However, such decision is still on you. If you can keep up with the developments of the casino, why not? Because in that case, you can discard your assets before they shut down their business.

Currently, I am not reading much of a recommendation from gamblers here investing in any site in terms of bankroll. Though the familiar ones are bustadice, bustabit and bitvest. Still, how much they are really earning from this investment is not known, at least the percentage of their profit from their original investment.
hero member
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I guess these tokens belong to decentralized casinos, right? I think there's a higher chance of making profits in a centralized casino than a decentralized one. After all, centralized casinos are the ones dominating the gambling industry. Our options of investing into a casino's bankroll are limited. The only ones I could find are Bustadice, Bustabit, and Bitvest. They aren't as big as the one under my sig, but it's better something than nothing.
Nope, they don't belong to decentralized casinos but they belong to the known centralized casinos as for fun token, it's owned by freebitco.in and for BFG, it's owned by betfury. So, if you think that you can earn more with the centralized tokens, then that should be your choice for them because they're actually from the centralized casinos that are known in here. And those that have you mentioned are the ones known to have the bankroll investments from the forum, I'm not sure about the other platforms outside the forum.

With BTC constantly going up in price, we should be able to obtain massive returns in our bankroll investment over the long term. The high network fees is a dealbreaker, though. Especially when you want to deposit/withdraw in/out of the casino. Crypto.Games accepts altcoins, unlike the sites mentioned previously. But it stopped accepting bankroll investments for some reason. Maybe someday they'll change their mind? Cheesy
We can't tell but with the logic returns with the bankroll investments is that, if you're going to invest big on them then your return is going to be big as well. And the ones that have invested early like from 2018 onwards, then they were the ones that are in greater gain now. Not just with the price of Bitcoin but also with the profit that they've made from investing into the bankroll of any of those. But, AFAIK, only a few from here have invested into it and got to tracked them.
legendary
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Since there is only one that offers to invest in a bankroll out of hundreds of existing casinos I don't think it's worth it in 2024, they prefer to have all the profit and not share it with investors they find it more profitable if they have high rollers playing in their platform, so they concentrate on marketing, if you want profit sharing Funtoken and BFG share their profit by staking their token.
This one is worth it is like investing in a casino also.

I guess these tokens belong to decentralized casinos, right? I think there's a higher chance of making profits in a centralized casino than a decentralized one. After all, centralized casinos are the ones dominating the gambling industry. Our options of investing into a casino's bankroll are limited. The only ones I could find are Bustadice, Bustabit, and Bitvest. They aren't as big as the one under my sig, but it's better something than nothing.

With BTC constantly going up in price, we should be able to obtain massive returns in our bankroll investment over the long term. The high network fees is a dealbreaker, though. Especially when you want to deposit/withdraw in/out of the casino. Crypto.Games accepts altcoins, unlike the sites mentioned previously. But it stopped accepting bankroll investments for some reason. Maybe someday they'll change their mind? Cheesy
legendary
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I remember the days when online crypto gambling sites offered us the option to invest directly into their bankroll (like the one in my sig).

I didn't know casinos allowed people to invest into their bankroll.
The casino in your sig is crypto games. Did you invest in their bankroll at the time they had the option?
How is one able to tell if they have this type of option. I have read through the FAQ on some casinos which is where I thought this option would be but I didn't find anything about investing into their bankroll.

If you have time to read from the 1st page, you'll find some information about which casinos that provide bankroll investment. When a casino provide this feature, you'll be able to find it on the landing page. Previously I posted direct link to the investment page of 2 gambling site, please find it yourself for the first time if you have never found it before. Not many casinos are still offering bankroll investment, so reading FAQ on casinos randomly will be wasting time for you.
legendary
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Hi Abiky
from my personal experiece, this type of investment can be convenient but at the same time it can easily lead to a negative result because all you have to do is catch a user's winning streak and you practically lose everything in an instant.
For a certain point of view, it was much better invest in tokens and not having btc exposed in bankroll. But just few casinos have launched their tokens.
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If you are looking to invest in the casino bankroll, I agree with you that there isn't a lot that does it anymore. It's either they already have those fundings or they just don't want to have to deal with all the hassle in producing and making sure that it won't affect their business when individuals invest. I don't think it's worth it anymore.
hero member
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Not all casinos are the same so investing in casino bankrolls does not work properly. The problem with most casinos is that they don't give good returns. Understanding the need to align your bets with your existing balance becomes paramount as you delve deeper into the world of online gambling. It's about making strategic decisions, where you not only learn to play but learn to play wisely with your financial boundaries in mind potentially leading to casino games that no one will believe in unless the bankroll is successfully built therefore proceed with caution.
That's why people must research before they decides to investing in casino because not many casinos have this feature to their members. If people can found that investing in casino can't be the same as before, they don't have to force themselves to try or they can try to invest in the casino but only use money they can afford to prevents something that they don't wants. Maybe they don't have to use investing feature on the casino, especially if they don't have much information which casino that still gives that feature. It's better they holds their bitcoin in their wallets and wait for the bitcoin price increase so they will gets the profit like they wants. We must be careful when decides something because not all we wants can becomes reality, especially in something related to the internet.
sr. member
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Investing, especially relinquishing control of the asset and keeping it, allowing the service to manage the asset is burdensome. It is better to play with capital that is able to make me accept the loss (lose) than I bet hope on such a platform to maintain it and get a profit. Indeed, all platforms are not bad at all, some are even very friendly including the probability of being profitable just by depositing.

If possible with the signature you have it is wiser sir, because your income is re-managed in the same company. I think the security is better because it is regularly proven to give you income from the campaign. I haven't registered yet, but it looks interesting and I will try in the future. I just like to try a web casino without big expectations and be comfortable because sometimes 1 web casino has many rides to try and each of them has impressions, sensations and opportunities that are more suitable for each individual. The progress of a platform is often supported by a strong capital margin and perhaps having nativ coins for that additional sector is a good endeavour, and stay alert with any game because anything can happen.
hero member
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What kind of investment you are planning, is it through crowd funding or private investment.
Honestly, I can't find any casinos nowadays that starts accepting investors like when they are at the early stage, it looks like they already had a private investors before they introduce their product to the market.
It should be the traditional way to invest in casinos, the bankroll investments. I don't feel like crowd funding, especially if its tokenized of casinos, i feel like most of the investors are rubbed in that way.
Well, yeah, looks like most new casino nowadays have their own fund when starting its ventures and not needed of external sources.

Maybe you haven't invested on a right casino, but when it's old and establish, the rate might be low and you need a decent capital so you'll be satisfied with the potential profit you'll make.
Well, that was on bustadice, yolodice and crypto-games, ancient casinos i say. It's true about having decent capital will probably have huge returns as all these investments of mine are all + profit but since the capital amount is not that huge and i feel like i was in the last batches, it looks like it's not worth it.
legendary
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Not all casinos are the same so investing in casino bankrolls does not work properly. The problem with most casinos is that they don't give good returns. Understanding the need to align your bets with your existing balance becomes paramount as you delve deeper into the world of online gambling. It's about making strategic decisions, where you not only learn to play but learn to play wisely with your financial boundaries in mind potentially leading to casino games that no one will believe in unless the bankroll is successfully built therefore proceed with caution.

Well, to be honest, I haven't heard of any project like that, because basically investing in a casino is usually for other things, sometimes for tokens, for NFT tokens and for exclusive and unique casino coins, but investing in the casino as such If I have shares, I have not had the opportunity to see something like that, but if they do something like that, it would be good to invest in shares but in the most relevant casinos, the casinos that are more reliable, like stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbits.io, rollbit, there are many in the forum, but until now I don't know, but if there has been something like that I have totally missed it, there are many programs to come out but it is difficult to keep track of everything.

Normally if there is something like this it must be another style of affiliate programs or something like that, is what occurs to me, where a person is or has the importance of a VIP member of the casino.
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Not all casinos are the same so investing in casino bankrolls does not work properly. The problem with most casinos is that they don't give good returns. Understanding the need to align your bets with your existing balance becomes paramount as you delve deeper into the world of online gambling. It's about making strategic decisions, where you not only learn to play but learn to play wisely with your financial boundaries in mind potentially leading to casino games that no one will believe in unless the bankroll is successfully built therefore proceed with caution.
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I remember the days when online crypto gambling sites offered us the option to invest directly into their bankroll (like the one in my sig). Nowadays, it's hard to find one that does. The only I've found is Bitvest. But activity on the site is quite low compared to its rivals.
Since there is only one that offers to invest in a bankroll out of hundreds of existing casinos I don't think it's worth it in 2024, they prefer to have all the profit and not share it with investors they find it more profitable if they have high rollers playing in their platform, so they concentrate on marketing, if you want profit sharing Funtoken and BFG share their profit by staking their token.
This one is worth it is like investing in a casino also.


Just like on what we are seeing on Bustabit on which this kind of house capital investment or some sort of will really be giving out that kind of option for you take but its true that majority of them now
doesnt really asked or having no feature in regarding about external investment since they could really be able to provide on their own. There might some sites might really be that offering this kind of
opportunity but pretty sure it would really be just that a couple or even a single platform is really that been having. Yes, its true that they do love on getting all the profits that they could get.
On the question is still worth it on 2024? We do know that house do always win in the end but expect that profits or ROI would really be taking up for so long since percentage of profits isnt really just  that too big.
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I didn't know casinos allowed people to invest into their bankroll.
The casino in your sig is crypto games. Did you invest in their bankroll at the time they had the option?
Many of them allowed it before.

I remember that there's also a thread posted on the Gambling section with the comparison of those casinos that have this option to invest into their bankrolls.

I also remember those forum members that have posted their gains and losses with the comparison of being invested into many of these casino bankrolls.

How is one able to tell if they have this type of option. I have read through the FAQ on some casinos which is where I thought this option would be but I didn't find anything about investing into their bankroll.
It's easy, they have that tab about "invest" on their website. If they don't have it, they don't offer it.
hero member
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List of some old casinos that support bankroll investment.

Bitvest.io          BTC, ETH, BCH, LTC, DOGE       2015

From that list, if bitvest continues to accept investments, I won't even put a satoshi in there. If someone invests and then spends half a year to get paid when he wants to withdraw, don't be surprised.

Oh wow, I don't use Bitvest, but I know it is an old casino that runs its promotion on the forum too. I don't know if the casino has a bad reputation for not releasing investors money, but I don't either like how the site looks. 


I thought that it was because of big funds which provided an inexhaustible flow of money, but I'm happy to see that in many cases that money flow came/comes from a more cooperative effort instead.

Some years ago, it was common among casinos, but this time around, I feel that casinos are doing their corporate effort offline. If it were something that was as common as before, then it wouldn't be unknown to so many gamblers or investors, especially those that always look for means to multiply their Bitcoin. I was not aware of it if someone had not mentioned it to me. 


It's not safe to invest in casino bankroll because you can't tell which one will survive, look around you, money is slowly going into artificial intelligence, and in the next few years technology will take over, this is no doubt where the biggest money is heading, why no place yoit risks on such? AI companies will be the world leaders tomorrow not gambling.

Don't also forget that no matter what kind of business or company one has, there are usually competitors. You are making quite a lot of sense that technology will take over, AI companies will become more successful, and investors will benefit from it, but you didn't acknowledge that because of the competition that is always in place, so many of those companies can also fail, and if someone has invested with them, it will become unprofitable and end in a loss. That's how casinos also have competitors. Before you invest, do your research on a very reputable casino; don't just invest in any random casino. You can even invest in a reputable casino, but your profit depends on the losses of gamblers. But how about when they win huge? Like jackpots?


Could it be that they have been  consumed with gamble not to think so.

In reality, even those who were not gamblers were actually investors in the casino's bankroll; some of them probably got into such an investment due to the advertisement they saw online, somewhere, or by anybody referring them. 
legendary
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I remember the days when online crypto gambling sites offered us the option to invest directly into their bankroll (like the one in my sig). Nowadays, it's hard to find one that does. The only I've found is Bitvest. But activity on the site is quite low compared to its rivals.
Since there is only one that offers to invest in a bankroll out of hundreds of existing casinos I don't think it's worth it in 2024, they prefer to have all the profit and not share it with investors they find it more profitable if they have high rollers playing in their platform, so they concentrate on marketing, if you want profit sharing Funtoken and BFG share their profit by staking their token.
This one is worth it is like investing in a casino also.

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A lot of these new casinos are now backed by big companies and Investors so they no longer operate using bankrolls. I still remember some casinos I used to play back then though their return rate was quite low but it was worth the while. Most of these new casinos no longer survive for long and I've seen quite a good number of them creating businesses under other platforms just to make sure that they have big supports. In the past bankrolls use to be another way to get returns yearly. But since most casino no longer needs them, I guess just few offers it. It might still be worth investing in them but just few casinos still has such functions and with low activities on their platforms.
legendary
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I remember the days when online crypto gambling sites offered us the option to invest directly into their bankroll (like the one in my sig). Nowadays, it's hard to find one that does. The only I've found is Bitvest. But activity on the site is quite low compared to its rivals.

I was wondering if it's still worth investing in an online casino's bankroll? If it is, could you share where can I invest my BTC? Any suggestions and/or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Smiley

Most people have already talked about this, and I also agree with them when they say that investing money in the casino is not worth it and I believe that even in the past the profit was very low for the very high risk that investors were taking. It wasn't worth investing in the casino either. We are in a very volatile market, so why would people stop investing in bitcoin in the long term and place their bitcoins in a casino and wait for a long time to make a small profit and at the risk of the casino going bankrupt and losing everything?

the casino doesn't do magic to multiply money and pay investors. so when or if 10 people invested 1 bitcoin each in a z casino. This casino would take these 10 bitcoins and what would it do with them so that it could pay each investor with interest? If the casino allowed people to bet with high amounts using investors' money as a guarantee that it could pay people who bet with a lot of money and win, the casino would be taking a high risk because even though the house always wins, there are rare cases in which that a person can be lucky enough to win 50 BTC and if the casino paid the 50 BTC using the investors' bitcoins and then there were no more players who played with a lot of money then the casino would have a high risk of being accused of scam when the investors did not were paid. In my opinion, it is a big risk for a casino to accept people investing in the casino to earn a profit at the end of the agreed time
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