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donator
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The availability has been updated. We have taken in all the investment for this week and we will not take in anymore until next week. For the investors that have gotten a slot congratulations and let's hope we have a profitable first week Smiley
I will start to invest the BTC that has been invested and the new updated spreadsheet will reflect the investments I decide to make.
For now good night and cu all tomorrow
//DeaDTerra
donator
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Skeptical of investment scheme. Only trust index funds because managers usually never beat out the average in the long run.

In any case, I want to invest 1 BTC just to see what happen.
Okay thank you for your trust Smiley
Send me a pm with your Payout address and your Alias, also if you want profits to be payed our or reinvested.
Thanks
//DeaDTerra
legendary
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Skeptical of investment scheme. Only trust index funds because managers usually never beat out the average in the long run.

In any case, I want to invest 1 BTC just to see what happen.
donator
Activity: 1064
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Hello Smiley
I am now home and I am looking over all the investment and preparing everything for the opening of the fund next week.
If you have yet to receive a deposit address please contact me with a alias and a payout address and I will give you your personal deposit address Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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I have been able to get acces to internet Smiley, so I have looked over our investments and answered any email sent to me, if your intrested in investing please contact me through email at [email protected]. I will update the log book and asset holdings once I get home as the internet is quite slow, if you have any questions or concerns please do contact me.
//DeaDTerra
donator
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Hello everyone!
I just wanted to note that I will be gone for holiday from the 9th to the 14th, if your interested in investing send me a email today and we can work something out Smiley
I will only have limited/no internet access, so for interested investors that have yet to talk to me we either have to fix things before the 9th or we can talk when I get back.
Investments close on the 16th and open up the next week on the 21st, so if you don't make it this week then you can join us the following week.
If there's any questions or concerns please do ask Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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What exactly would be needed to have something like this on GLBSE?
I'd really love to invest in a more anonymous way over there...

I think the biggest problem seems to be the "buyout" if someone wants to get out again and that the earnings are varying from share to share, right? (e.g. I bought a share in Jan. and earned 10% each month --> I get 1.3 times the money in the end of march but "only" 1.2 times the money if I bought in Feb?)

You could however just say "1 share of the fund costs 1 BTC in Jan, 1.1 BTC in Feb, 1.2 BTC in Mar... and I have a buyback offer open should you want to cash out at 0.99BTC in Jan, 1.09 BTC in Feb, 1.19BTC in Mar..." with the prices calculated according to your real earnings/losses of course. The downside would be that you might need to have some cash stored at GLBSE to buy back shares if needed, but on the other hand it might save you a lot of work for these payouts. You could then issue new shares whenever needed and people would know that in the beginning of each month there will be time to buy new shares and/or liquidity to cash out.

Also it would be possible to invest smaller amounts of BTC in something, as some people (not you, though I think a "contribution" of 0.1BTC to your fund might also be rejected) want to have only a few large investors for some reason. I don't feel comfortable with handing ~50 USD to a complete stranger... however something about the price of a hamburger would cause me much fewer second thoughts.
I would like to join GLBSE but with my current system it would not work, there are a few things that I would have to change. I have kind of a bond looking structure of where deposits and withdraws can only happen during weekends, this is so I can invest a maximum amount of our capital without having to keep to much liquid if someone wants to withdraw. This is also from keeping people putting in money when the fund is going well and as soon as we hit a rough patch get out of there (kind of like pool hopping but I guess fund hopping xD). If someone were to do that then the people keeping the money in the fund over a longer period of time would have to pay the price of when things go rough and I don't want that kind of a system, hence I have deposits/withdraws closed during the week.
Also what would happen if the fund goes with a lose on GLBSE, the only thing I really could do is take the loses away from the next dividend which also doesn't seem that optimal.

I just think that for now with my current system I will stay off GLBSE, in the future when I have a better system and more interest in the fund, I may chose to move over to GLBSE. Regarding the trust issues, I am trying to deal with thoose, I have gotten a OTC account, I have suggested a real ID verification by someone known in the community, I am not sure what else would make you feel better investing in me? if you have any suggestions please tell me Smiley
Also I am in no rush, I am here to stay and I am willing to wait for people to start to trust me, if it takes a couple of months that's fine
//DeaDTerra
legendary
Activity: 2618
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What exactly would be needed to have something like this on GLBSE?
I'd really love to invest in a more anonymous way over there...

I think the biggest problem seems to be the "buyout" if someone wants to get out again and that the earnings are varying from share to share, right? (e.g. I bought a share in Jan. and earned 10% each month --> I get 1.3 times the money in the end of march but "only" 1.2 times the money if I bought in Feb?)

You could however just say "1 share of the fund costs 1 BTC in Jan, 1.1 BTC in Feb, 1.2 BTC in Mar... and I have a buyback offer open should you want to cash out at 0.99BTC in Jan, 1.09 BTC in Feb, 1.19BTC in Mar..." with the prices calculated according to your real earnings/losses of course. The downside would be that you might need to have some cash stored at GLBSE to buy back shares if needed, but on the other hand it might save you a lot of work for these payouts. You could then issue new shares whenever needed and people would know that in the beginning of each month there will be time to buy new shares and/or liquidity to cash out.

Also it would be possible to invest smaller amounts of BTC in something, as some people (not you, though I think a "contribution" of 0.1BTC to your fund might also be rejected) want to have only a few large investors for some reason. I don't feel comfortable with handing ~50 USD to a complete stranger... however something about the price of a hamburger would cause me much fewer second thoughts.
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
Avaliblity updated as well as I have finally gotten a OTC account Cheesy

" I have now created a OTC account after a large request, it's brand new but it can be seen here http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=DeaDTerra "
//DeaDTerra
donator
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Availability updated Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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Thank you, if you have any questions or concerns then please do ask Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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Thanks for the link - don't browse that sub-forum often...
No problems Smiley
//DeaDTerra
legendary
Activity: 1666
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Thanks for the link - don't browse that sub-forum often...
donator
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Th's of Asic caught my eye...
I have been in close contact with Vladimir about his up and coming project, as it's a bit further in the future nothing is yet set. Though it seems like if everything goes to plan we will be able to take part of the up and coming mining operation. More specific info released by Vlad can be found here Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75298.0;topicseen
//DeaDTerra
legendary
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Th's of Asic caught my eye...
donator
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I just wanted to add that if anyone is interested in investing but is hesitating please do contact me , send me a email on [email protected] or add me on skype (terragubben) and we can have a chat. That way I can personally ensure you that your funds will be safe with me Smiley I am also working towards getting my real ID confirmed to make it easier for you guys to trust me.

I have to major projects coming up for the fund, one of them is in a couple of weeks time and it involves a newly developed arbitrage bot that will trade over multiple exchanges using high frequency trade, this bot will be able to make a good amount of profit while being almost risk free as trades are only executed if there's a calculated profit on another exchange. The fund will be one of the few investors in this bot and the script will not be given to anyone to ensure that we can keep the profits as high as possible.

I also have a big mining project coming up, this is a bit further in the future. Ranging from a month to half a year from now depending on what kind of capital can be raised and the production time of the mining hardware. I can't release much information, but it will involve a big mining operation (we are talking terahashes of power) and some very ground breaking technology with the new ASIC mining hardware. These are up to two orders of magnitude more power efficient and have higher density then a GPU solution.
//DeaDTerra
donator
Activity: 1064
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SO don't list on the GLBSE. Nefario will identify the issuer. this is dangerous for a scammer.
At the moment I do not wish to list on GLBSE just because my current fund structure and setup will not work that well with the current GLBSE structure. I am happy to identify my real ID to any trusted member of the forum for example Nefario. Not for my ID to go public but if something happens it could be released and the investors could get justice Smiley

//DeaDTerra

Apology for my rudeness. If you really did this, investors will have very strong confidence to your fund, at least on the fiduciary duty aspect.
No problems, I can see how this might seem a bit fishy, but I have been running this fund for almost half a year and I do not plan to run away or quit any time soon. I would be happy to verify my ID to Nefario, though I don't want it to be forced, I am happy to take a picture of my ID etc as long as it's not release to the public.Most of the GLBSE Investments are gray zoned so I would rather avoid having my real ID circulating, so using Nefario or someone else from the community as a middle hand sounds like a good idea Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
Activity: 1120
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SO don't list on the GLBSE. Nefario will identify the issuer. this is dangerous for a scammer.
At the moment I do not wish to list on GLBSE just because my current fund structure and setup will not work that well with the current GLBSE structure. I am happy to identify my real ID to any trusted member of the forum for example Nefario. Not for my ID to go public but if something happens it could be released and the investors could get justice Smiley

//DeaDTerra

Apology for my rudeness. If you really did this, investors will have very strong confidence to your fund, at least on the fiduciary duty aspect.
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
SO don't list on the GLBSE. Nefario will identify the issuer. this is dangerous for a scammer.
At the moment I do not wish to list on GLBSE just because my current fund structure and setup will not work that well with the current GLBSE structure. I am happy to identify my real ID to any trusted member of the forum for example Nefario. Not for my ID to go public but if something happens it could be released and the investors could get justice Smiley

//DeaDTerra

This is the general idea with ID verification.

Right now GLBSE only shows a users verification if they have created a GLBSE asset, but I'd like to add a public page for users that will allow them to point to their GLBSE accounts that show they've been verified.

I would be happy to verify myself to Nefario, if you have the time could you send me a pm with the things I need to have to prove my identity?
thanks
//DeaDTerra

Do verify. It'll make people have more confidence in you, for example me. Just don't pull another shakaru on us  Grin
Indeed, I planned to verify my ID to someone of the community and Nefario seems like a good choice Smiley Haha I won't Tongue
//DeaDTerra
legendary
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Away on an extended break
SO don't list on the GLBSE. Nefario will identify the issuer. this is dangerous for a scammer.
At the moment I do not wish to list on GLBSE just because my current fund structure and setup will not work that well with the current GLBSE structure. I am happy to identify my real ID to any trusted member of the forum for example Nefario. Not for my ID to go public but if something happens it could be released and the investors could get justice Smiley

//DeaDTerra

This is the general idea with ID verification.

Right now GLBSE only shows a users verification if they have created a GLBSE asset, but I'd like to add a public page for users that will allow them to point to their GLBSE accounts that show they've been verified.

I would be happy to verify myself to Nefario, if you have the time could you send me a pm with the things I need to have to prove my identity?
thanks
//DeaDTerra

Do verify. It'll make people have more confidence in you, for example me. Just don't pull another shakaru on us  Grin
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