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Keep at it TPTB.  Focus on what's really important.

You may have to employ someone who knows what they are doing (ie someone who really knows math & programming).  I would think that this forum would have programmers you could strike up a deal with.

Think about ways to lock in you Intellectual Capital that you have worked on.  Maybe you could just SELL IT to the right parties.

Would rpietila be of help finding a proper tech buyer?

Regarding the posts in this thread, first I need to see if the Monero cryptographer has already solved the design.

And also my anonymity white paper "Zero Knowledge Transactions" is unpublished because it was going to be used first in Ion, and it has had no peer review so it is possible it has an error, but I combed over it numerous times and so I don't think so (but it is possible and that is what peer review is for).

As for price, I haven't thought about it yet and will do. I expended some weeks on that. I assume I am at smooth's caliber (although I think he is more active lately in coding because he is younger and not ill) in terms of my experience and past compensation, thus something on the order of $100-300 per hour. In 2001, I was earning $30,000 per month i.e. $90,000 monthly inflation-adjusted, so that is roughly $563 per hour as my opportunity cost inflation-adjusted (at a factor 3.63x since 2001 according to Shadowstats.com). Plus you have to consider the opportunity cost of retaining it for exclusivity for "first mover" advantage. It will be interesting to see if Monero's donation funding model can support hiring the developers at the true rate they earn. There is a large difference in compensation between the top paid developers and the junior developers.

As for my health and whether I can still lead Ion, this is in an unanswered question. Although the past 3 years and recent chaotic health since August would tend to concur with macsga's conclusion, a new wrinkle entered the picture last night which also might be quite shocking to macsga. So I just don't know for sure yet. In any case, at the right price, it may make sense to go ahead and give my solution to Monero well before I could ever implement it myself in my own project.

Thanks for continued voting (feedback) on the ion name.

Aside from what people think about Anonymint, he's quite good at what he does. He's extremely intelligent, good coder and maybe what he claims to be true, actually really is. What I'd propose is that the XMR community to listen to what he has to offer; and if he proves that his work actually is real and could be integrated, I'd be happy myself to donate an amount of my XMRs to him in order to promote the new tech to it. The way I see it, it's a win-win situation.

@Anonymint: Under no circumstances, you could manage to fulfil what is required to deliver the coin by yourself (maybe yes, if you were healthy). You need the help of a team of talented coders in order to make it happen in a usable and quick way. The idea is brilliant; they know it; you know it. It took to you what? Six months to implement? What are the chances they cannot manage to do it by themselves? Maybe not in 6 months, but in 1y, 1.5y?

My point is that, you could claim a position in that team. Most of us there are the ones that we first involved with BTC in the early years. I'm sure the community will not leave you alone and we could certainly help crowdfunding an amount for your health issues. I know this is not what you might wanted for this stupefying project of yours, but you are facing an adiexodo here. We, as species managed to be here because we evolved. Evolution means the ability of one to adapt.

Do the right thing. Adapt.

It is Good coin name...
where is have it....?? 

We (the Monero community) certainly know who you are, but we don't know what you want. You say "enough money" but that doesn't give anyone even a ballpark expectation. We've already crowdfunded development work and other initiatives and could certainly attempt to raise money, but your vagueness implies your work can't ever be afforded.

If you don't think that's the case, then name your price and we'll see who contributes. I get that you don't want to show your hand, but if you're waiting for Smooth or Fluffypony to PM you and make you an offer, I wouldn't expect that to happen, because that's not really how decisions get made on this project. That doesn't mean you can't get what you want, however.

^{[emphasis mine]}

I've been quietly following this thread, but I see that perhaps I missed something very important along the way.
Where can this invention of yours be seen? Was there some whitepaper draft or something posted that I missed?

Edit: Btw, just expressed my vote. I really like the (ion) name.

they all know who I am. they know how to send me a private message if they are interested. Instead I am certain they will go try to invent it themselves. Monero apparently doesn't have significant funds to pay developers because they didn't sell any coins. Everything was mined. Any way, I was always willing to work for those who would pay me well. I've never received an offer to be well paid for my efforts in cryptoland.

I wouldn't expect it so fast. I just learned this from your post that they want to implement this feature; on the other hand, why don't you lay the first hand? Maybe they never heard of ion so far! Ask somebody from their dev-team and talk about your achievements. The post you typed on reddit is very minimal - how would they know if you're for real?

If I were you I'd propose a tit-for-tat deal. Maybe (just maybe) they will listen to you and offer you money to confront your health situation. I know some people there will certainly have open ears for your story.

I'd go for it! It's probably the best deal!

If they offer enough money, they can receive my white paper. No one has contacted me.

There's only one thing that proves your excellence: To be imitated/copied. I'd be very glad if I were you. I might even join their efforts like a valuable advisor...

Edit: This is a serious advice. Your ideas may transform XMR to what you're trying to accomplish by your own.

I disappeared for longer than expected due to health issues which were preventing me from having any mental energy for working. I have detailed this over the past days under my other username TPTB_need_war.

I am on the 4th consecutive day of continuous reasonably pain-free health and somewhat reasonable energy level (still not ideal, but not always zombified). I was able to run 2.25 kms at 8:30 mile pace in the hot tropical sun each of the past 3 days (will attempt again after writing this), got one barbell and basketball shoot around workout in those 3 days also, and 2 of those days I exceed 4 kms with a second run later in the day. I also finally got my driver's license renewal (which is critical for being able to get daily errands done efficiently) which had represented a big hurdle due to the unwillingness of the LTO (land transportation office) to issue a driver's license with night time driving privilege to someone blind in one eye (as I am). I had to get a medical certificate from an ophthalmologist which was a struggle to accomplish due to the low energy I was experiencing, as well very difficult to find one who wasn't on vacation.  Then my uncorrected eye sight had declined from 20/40 to 20/70 just since early August (perhaps due to the 10 day fasting I attempted as a cure in late August, but I don't know). My vision should improve as my overall health does, since it is hypothesized (but not clinically verified yet) that the gut dysbiosys is driving the autoimmunity which is attacking my visual cortex.

In any case, a big change in diet to focus on live probiotics, wild grown green leaves, raw tuna, and restarted my vitamin D3 supplementation but at a more subdued level of 20,000 IU daily, so far has me in an improving state-of-health over the past 4 days.

As of today, I have completed both the single-threaded and multi-theaded coding for the linear probe hash table which is a central component of the algorithm I am developing. Here is the heading comment for the multi-threaded version of it. I still intend to post some open source code soon to demonstrate progress. My health has been really debilitating and I have done Herculean effort to try to cure it. I don't think words could describe the minute-by-minute struggle I have been fighting.


I do not expect to post often. I'll post when there are significant developments.

Okay I admit you don't know my design yet. You'll see why I say the objectivity is different and allows identifying the 51% attack as distinct from the honest chain once I release the white paper. Whether you will find a flaw or not remains to be seen. And again I need to get back to coding. Hope we can do that evaluation and peer review soon. Thanks.

For 1, I was more asking why a miner would be incentivised to mine a chain with no block reward.

I can see how a 51% would be impossible in a system where only you can mine your transactions, but it looks like this is not your design. In the system I was musing about, the 51% attack was replaced with the attacker only having to outpace the recipient of the transaction, which is much worse than only having to outpace the network.

1. There is a mining requirement because transactions sent without proof-of-work mining share would form a rejected block, thus will not be accepted by any block.

2. The sender of the transaction doesn't need to win a block to send a transaction. I claim a 51% attack is impossible in my design. The specifics on how I accomplish that protection is not going to be discussed now. It hinges on objectivity which Satoshi's design doesn't have. Sincerely I feel bad for not being able to discuss the specifics on that now (I am eager to of course, because I am proud of my design even if it is not perfect because nothing is perfect) but please do not drag me into another argument because that particular feature is my intellectual property. I am trying to accelerate my coding so I can get the white paper and code released into the open source asap so we can open discussion on the specifics.

Your post there is much closer to what I've been thinking. Note I am still looking at issues and trying to further improve what I have in mind.

One of the keys is that it must be impossible to censor a transaction based on UXTO.

There appears to be a lot of overlap between your design and Sergio's DagCoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dagcoin-a-cryptocurrency-without-blocks-1177633

Hi tromp. Good to hear from you again.

Communicating in an overly simplistic language that is not semantically expressive is thus more complex.

It never ceases to amaze me how linear most people think. People latch onto to one perspective on an issue and lose the ability to see over the forest.  Whether it be conflating 'delegation' with 'trust' and 'centralization'. Or in this case conflating simplicity of syntax and operational semantics, with overall semantics.

Your mention of Brainfuck is quite off the mark,
as it is one of the simplest programming languages imaginable

(that fact that writing programs in Brainfuck is anything but simple
is a consequence of the language being simplified to an extreme).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

I have given r0ach a private message with a very strong hint as to how I accomplish my design.