Topic: ion discussion - page 3. (Read 9683 times)

Yes seriously I don't have time to waste here on talk. We need action.

You all carry on, I am leaving the thread open. I'll delete anything that gets obnoxious.

Yeah of course I know what action is required to embarrass the fuck out of young punks.

Is there any ETA on when whitepaper or even just a general explanation of how you're archieving all those wonderfull things ?
I know you want to be very secretive about this and you prob have good reasons but at some point you're gonna have to tell people what's going on in order for them to trust your project.

@ion.cash: If I may, here's a nice advice for you. If you don't like someone's behavior, you can build up a story as you see fit in order not to get frustrated (ie: your girlfriend dumps you - you explain it as "you had incompatible personalities"; NOT as "she found someone better"). In any case, since our time here is limited, don't waste your time into meaningful debates and oppressive thoughts.

I usually try to let my actions speak for me. From what I can tell, you're a "DO-er" not just a "Talker". Get your project going and I'm sure whoever has issues with your personality, brains potential, or scientific capabilities, they will get their answer in time...

PS:
Just to make things a bit funnier, here's a nice logo for you. It's my wife's favorite chocolate.

Basically it was this young punk who was disrupting everything:

Don't worry, this is all good if this is about to succeed - it will strengthen the project.
Of course you are only human and you should try to manage your interactions because everything has it's price.

What I appreciate is the interest that has been shown, as it helped to confirm to me that the crypto market is not dead despite the price being down (and I think headed lower before bottoming). Because this has enabled me to gain more confidence that I am not wasting my time coding.

And I have already been contacted by an experienced crypto Java developer, so that meets my goals along with getting feedback on the name.

Other than those welcome successes, I feel shame for the discordant attention this thread has drawn (both shame for myself and for the other parties where we can't have mutual respect) and I want to delete everything and close this thread. I am trying to restrain myself, so I will just lock the thread now and go about deleting my recent posts in the other threads because I feel I have nothing to gain from parading myself around like a clown in a circus.

As for the distribution, I think it doesn't help at all to go into details like that so prematurely. It can surely just lead to more things for people to gossip or attack about and I think it is better that when we are ready to distribute we just do it. The market will tell us if we done our job correctly and if the markets feels we have made the honest and most network effects building choices w.r.t. to distribution.

I think I started this thread because I was excited to share my excitement and find some others to work with. I guess I was originally thinking it would be a community spirit where I would check in every few days and update published code and get some positive feedback loop going with the community. When I played team sports it wasn't politics, but about who could do the best job at each position. We competed to make each other better. We learned to have mutual respect. But I remember that was a difficult adjustment process. At the start, all the guys had some kind of attitude adjustment we had to go through in order to truly appreciate each other and work together as one. I just don't think a community here can work like that. It would need to be more a cult and zombie or speculative pump mass mania effect.

Now I rather feel like hiding under a rock and showing up one day da bomb. Wasting too much time on very draining communication. I think its better to communicate through non-interactive channels, e.g. white paper, website, and wiki.


It isn't so simple to explain and would basically tell you major aspects of my design and I already said I am not going to reveal that at this early stage. So I think I just need to disappear for a while. I already got the feedback I needed. Thanks and I apologize for nothing being able to give the complete information now.

Already asked this, but it didn't get a response, so here it goes again. How are you solving the problem (on zero confirmation transactions) which is bolded in the quote?

Can you reveal distribution plans? You mentioned billions of coins or more, will it be like larger block and than halving after some time or something nethash/diff related?

i like this guy, he's an artist  ... make an obra meastra

i'd rather boost anonymint's ego than attact it (some people become better in what they do if their ego is boosted - i think he is one them)

we will know the results anyway when Ion is released. and i prefer to be on the positive side.

For non-performance critical applications in FinTech, Java has a lot of benefits.

Generally its performance for regular operations isn't that far behind C, memory management is much easier and there is no risk of overflows, development turn around is generally faster, it can be securely sand-boxed (if you know what your doing) and it is of course multi-platform in the most general sense.

A lot of the top tier financial institutions spend great effort to ensure that the libraries are clean and bug free....its hardcore.  They generally run custom library repositories that are based on the standard Java, but with improvements where required (the crypto and math libs for example are way ahead of what is in the standard package).  A lot of these improvements are fed back to Oracle/Sun and so make it into subsequent releases.

The guys that work on this stuff are the best of the best, some of which are paid $1000+ per day, which is a small price to pay for the exposure received if something should screw up.  If Java was inherently insecure, it wouldn't be used for anything.

I think some of the misconception comes from the fact that the infrastructure topology is dated, but the software that runs within is very solid.  There are exceptions I'm sure, but what I've seen working in this field in the past, its very clinical.

I am not using Java's bloatware crypto libraries! I am writing all my stuff from scratch to make sure it is correct, concise, elegant, clean, and kick ass. You don't realize you are talking to a prolific programmer.

kinda like "ion"

added the topic to my watchlist

Oh so now Smoothie has filed a bogus trust claim on my username to try to get revenge. (Click the "Trust" next to my username to the left)

It won't help him escape from the reality of this day.

When a person frames their argument with Freudian words such as "immaturity" and "not humble", they speak about themselves. They attempt to project their passive aggressive psychological illness on others.

It is rather sick to observe. (pun intended)

Edit: appears this behavior of abusing the Trust ratings is being sanctioned by the mods as they deleted my positive rating with counter argument from my long standing username TPTB_need_war.  Perhaps Smoothie has been the one sanctioned to do a demolition job on my coin by the powers-that-be that favor Bitcoin and own this forum. This was expected and it won't help them.

My long explanation.

Again you ramp up the pressure even more trying to blame me for you inability to be able to read. You can't even read a dictionary:

Perhaps you will learn RTFM.

Reading 2 pages of a thread is too much for a prima donna, that is no excuse for you to blame me for not putting the entire thread in the opening post.

I can see we are going to have significant problems with political trouble makers, who have nothing better to do but be lazy and disruptive— apparently intentionally so.

For constant time crypto code, you'd ideally want to go low level. Also for performance critical sections. Use the correct tool for the job. For high level semantic code that doesn't have those those other low level requirements, use a high level language.

You wouldn't dig trenches with spoons. Use a backhoe when you don't need to carve out small areas around sensitive pipes.

Yeah this annoys me greatly!

People regularly confuse Java with JavaShit, and claim the security of Java is rubbish because JavaShits is.  In fact the 2 are VERY different languages, and the only common ground between them is some syntax similarities (but then Java and C++ share a lot of that), and the damn name.

Any and all languages are insecure if the skills of the developer are not up to par.

In fact a very large portion of the worlds banking applications are written in Java, on the front and back end....so go figure.

...

ion

Medium-sized ego OROBTC asks (begs) to K.I.S.S.!  Simplicity (relative) is the key to mass-adoption.

I continue to tease with damned facts...