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Topic: [ION] [IONOMY] Worthy successor to XPY - 100% premined - Garza would be proud (Read 5563 times)

legendary
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Time to refresh this. Here is what happened in the last ~2 years.

  • ionomy released a clunky iOS/Android game called Gravity, which had ~40 players with top 10 getting paid ION prizes
  • eventually Gravity leaderboard was exploited and the game was removed
  • there is a new game called To the Moon or Bust, which has 20-ish players with top 10 getting paid ION prizes
  • the coin went through several hardforks, mostly because of bugs, such as a difficulty adjustment exploit
  • ION price has gone down to ~15k sat (from 45-55k sat ICO price range)
  • ionomy moved through a few forum sites and chat sites, and still has a couple of shills here on Bitcointalk
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Rumble Arena Partnership - ION Tournaments in Multiplayer Fighting Game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLvPkL5kjo

ionomy is excited to announce a partnership with Rekall Games, creators of the popular game, Rumble Arena. Rumble Arena is being redesigned from the ground up to include multiplayer and tournaments with rewards being payed out through the Lightning PWR-GRD service.  The redesigned Rumble Arena is expected to debut this summer and offer ion prizes in game and cross platform.  This is the first third party game ionomy has partnered with to bring PWR-GRD services and the power of the ion blockchain to more gamers.
legendary
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I had over 5 THs Sha 256 you think it would have created a small bit of Bitcoin but when I asked they said no they only get a small drop every so often,well I have seen none in 6 months
legendary
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HODL
no Ionomy allowed you to buy hash to mine Bitcoin but after a few months it disappeared I think

I think they used Genesis Mining or some other shitty place like that.

At least that was the case with xpy.io, not sure if the same stupidity carried over to ionomy since the old forums are down and slack doesn't archive.

Here is a bit of a discussion on the subject:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/xpy-paycoin-teamxpy-xpy-io-linked-to-teamion-and-ionomy/1559/4119

The fucked up Genesis twice. 1st fuck up was thinking they were a good mining operation to run with. All you had to do was do a bit of research and they would have discovered that Genesis Mining was the worst possible mining solution, next to LTCgear and scrypt.cc. And those idiots still sang its praises. 2nd fuck up was the actual genesis block of their never before seen, game changing crypto coin. Which the Ionites still can't explain its purpose after being on the market for 9+ months.
legendary
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no Ionomy allowed you to buy hash to mine Bitcoin but after a few months it disappeared I think

I think they used Genesis Mining or some other shitty place like that.

At least that was the case with xpy.io, not sure if the same stupidity carried over to ionomy since the old forums are down and slack doesn't archive.

Here is a bit of a discussion on the subject:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/xpy-paycoin-teamxpy-xpy-io-linked-to-teamion-and-ionomy/1559/4119
legendary
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no Ionomy allowed you to buy hash to mine Bitcoin but after a few months it disappeared I think
legendary
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Always wondered what happened to the Bitcoin mining,did it just stop completely?
Do you mean the never obsolete Hashlets? PNGs are still there! http://bit.ly/2gTSuDA
legendary
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Always wondered what happened to the Bitcoin mining,did it just stop completely?
legendary
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Shark, have you fucking gone completely mad? Feel free to shill but stop wall-quoting yourself. Some people have better things to do than scroll through your shit.
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Buy IONs using Alt. coins or Mine your Alt. coin directly to Ionomy wallet and get IONs!!!

https://ionomy.com/buy/ion

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The buying part I get.

How do you mine an alt coin using the Ionomy wallet?

Set your payout addy for the mining to the corresponding coin address generated on your Ionomy account.

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One of the good programs to mine alt. coins with is Minergate
https://minergate.com/downloads/gui

Does this only accept the respective alt coin to convert to ION or is each alt an actual wallet that can provide outgoing transactions and well as accept them?

It is only a deposit wallet used for converting to IONs for each of the supported coin types

What exchange are they using for the exchange rate?

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or you can use suchmoon's unbiased "right" answer cause the "team" is not transparent:
Where are those IONs coming from? Sharkie still pretending no to be concerned at all that the "team" is dumping the premine in increasingly elaborate ways?

My apologies, let me rephrase my question. First off, I never mentioned or brought up suchmoon in this dialogue, so please don't drag him in as an argument aid. Anyway, what I really meant was what exchange is being used to give the alt coins their value? Why is 1 ETH worth 80 ION? Where did that value for ETH come from? That's what I meant initially, could have worded it better. My apologies again.

The value of the alt coin is determined from shapeshift. The value for the ION is determined by above procedure described by Huey...

i see shapeshift also adjust the min amount too

@suchmoon Your proof for your question can be "notice the small buy orders in the Ionomy exchange that have been appearing since yesterday". When the email goes out, the process will be explained. This buy support will build and over time it could be a significant dampener on potential future dumps on the Ionomy exchange...

Isn't this just a way they can dump their endless ION supply for currencies that they can convert into btc then cash out, can't believe anyone is stupid enough to think this is a good thing

The smart person would see that this is a service provided by Ionomy to put "buy pressure" on the exchange for ION... This also is another option to crypto users to convert their alt coin to IONs without the bothers of using a "direct" exchange...

What happens if there isn't enough ION coins for sale on the internal exchange? Does the transfer get put in hold until those coins become available? Or do those coins come from some other source?

i'm guessing that Ionomy has a pool of IONs that they are using to fill the order immediately and the buy order sits on the exchange... I will get a "real" answer when Huey wakes up...



Now the question is: where did that pool of IONs come from? If the IONs are coming from the "team", then this just got real shady as the "team" controls the premine.

I got to laugh at this one and say the pool comes from your account so this Ionomy service is NOT shady!!!

Why are you laughing? Seriously, where will this pool of IONs come from? If they are not enough on the exchange, where do the extra come from?

I thought it was a good laugh saying the pool would be created from Cryptobuds account and theirfore it wouldn't be shady. Don't you remember that Cryptobuds bought enough IONs to run a Masternode??? and would gladly use them to prime the ION purchasing pool... lol

The "real" answer is there is a pool of IONs being maintained by Ionomy (ION purchasing pool), that are being used to "buy the IONs" for instant transaction. The bid is placed on the Ionomy market and when that trade occurs, the IONs are added back into the pool to replenish it for consecutive ION purchases...

The email from Ionomy describing the new "ION Buy" service will be out soom!!!

Garza would be proud to implement this new coin service if PayCoin was still around!!!



legendary
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The 3RE thing is interesting, but (and I'm playing devils advocate here) I'm unclear of its relevance to ion other than that it shows that most of the main Ion 'team' are 'working' formally together.

It looks like 3RE is the actual "team" instead of the fake "Ionomy PTE". Matlack said he has 5-10 full-time employees in the ionomy team. ceforce confirmed on slack that he speaks for the team and the only job he lists on LinkedIn is "Chief Communications Officer 3re Technologies LLC" so it stands to reason that 3RE is the ionomy team.
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garza thing is probably a joke from ladrx

do you mean this profile? https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-gravina-274633ab

this is from the press release:
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Ionomy founder, Mark Gravina, said about the Stakers product:

im quite sure ive seen this person in one of the paycoin hangouts https://www.facebook.com/mark.gravina he seems to be in australia tho



found matlack in his friends list


The Managing Member of 3RE, LLC is Kenneth Rogers. . Kenneth has other corporate interests including Paycoin Foundation, Inc.
also in his list


funnily enough 3RE llc which matlack is the CEO of has hired all the ion people: krumz, ceforce, sleak, jason. according to their linkedin pages

I'll give ladrx the benefit of the doubt for that comment, but it's worth remembering that this is exactly the kind of thing that the ionites love to criticise bitcointalk for -- the constant (alleged) obsession with trying to link ion back to Garza. It seems redundant to be continually flogging what seems to be a very dead horse when there are far more legitimate avenues of questioning clearly available.

The 3RE thing is interesting, but (and I'm playing devils advocate here) I'm unclear of its relevance to ion other than that it shows that most of the main Ion 'team' are 'working' formally together.
legendary
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garza thing is probably a joke from ladrx

do you mean this profile? https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-gravina-274633ab

this is from the press release:
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Ionomy founder, Mark Gravina, said about the Stakers product:

im quite sure ive seen this person in one of the paycoin hangouts https://www.facebook.com/mark.gravina he seems to be in australia tho



found matlack in his friends list


The Managing Member of 3RE, LLC is Kenneth Rogers. . Kenneth has other corporate interests including Paycoin Foundation, Inc.
also in his list


funnily enough 3RE llc which matlack is the CEO of has hired all the ion people: krumz, ceforce, sleak, jason. according to their linkedin pages
full member
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im having doubts as well. the information was not contested back then but if you look at it with fresh eyes it just doesnt match that well. at this point its safe to assume they just lived in the same state and that other guy has blue eyes Grin

here is an interesting post i totally forgot about grav
This article mentions a "Mark Gravina" as the founder of Ionomy. Has this name been mentioned up until this point? I don't recognize it.

https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-gaming-ionomy-full-crypto/

So this dude, presumably?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-gravina-957102

And this Gravina dude has a Singapore address associated with several other domain names. And of course he's from Boston, so he's probably a pal of Homero's and that's how he got mixed up in this scheme.

Here's his email in case anyone wants to drop him a line directly with the litany of unanswered questions about this "project".

[email protected]



There's a different Gravina on LinkedIn listed as being in Singapore as an accountant. That seems a more likely candidate if any, surely? Honestly the Boston link above seems like a big leap and an attempt to somehow tie this guy to Garza, which is a bit unfair.
legendary
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No idea why the pictures are being talked about on this topic..
But i would bet no.. all 3 are likely different people is my guess.
I think the eyebrows between pic 1 and 2 are very different.
legendary
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Ionomy privacy policy and parts of TOS (specifically "tokens are not money or investment securities" etc) sound very similar to Neucoin's:

Neucoin privacy policy: https://web.archive.org/web/20161113062032/https://www.myneucoin.com/en/privacypolicy
Ionomy privacy policy: http://archive.is/iwdjM

Neucoin TOS: http://archive.is/FXQCW#selection-369.4-369.228
Ionomy TOS: http://archive.is/IxsVs#selection-849.0-851.216

Not sure if there is any relation or just simple plagiarism.
legendary
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im having doubts as well. the information was not contested back then but if you look at it with fresh eyes it just doesnt match that well. at this point its safe to assume they just lived in the same state and that other guy has blue eyes Grin

here is an interesting post i totally forgot about grav
This article mentions a "Mark Gravina" as the founder of Ionomy. Has this name been mentioned up until this point? I don't recognize it.

https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-gaming-ionomy-full-crypto/

So this dude, presumably?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-gravina-957102

And this Gravina dude has a Singapore address associated with several other domain names. And of course he's from Boston, so he's probably a pal of Homero's and that's how he got mixed up in this scheme.

Here's his email in case anyone wants to drop him a line directly with the litany of unanswered questions about this "project".

[email protected]


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im bad with faces. does this look like the same person just younger? left and right are confirmed to be the exact same person


left pic is from matlacks ion/paycoin hangout and the right pic is from his clearpoint church


Thanks for dredging that up! You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I don't think that centre pic is the same person as left and right. Thanks anyway again.
legendary
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Sharkie, please stop crossposting your crap. Post once in whichever thread is more suitable.

I'd say that your shilling for atoms is pointless in this thread or even in this forum but it's up to you how you choose to waste your time.
legendary
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Agreed sounds like a big ole fat load of scammy bullshit to me.
..it should be popular then  Cheesy

so true. there are more than enough people who are ready to drop btc into 100% scams if there is a slight chance of winning money (then fast exit). who the hell cares if the money is coming from new victims, right? sad state of affairs




im bad with faces. does this look like the same person just younger? left and right are confirmed to be the exact same person


left pic is from matlacks ion/paycoin hangout and the right pic is from his clearpoint church
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