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When bitcoin drops below $10, will the community have to move together to kilobits then?

In this particular instance it's better to have a single standard. It's important for the community to move together to bits. People who don't switch hold back adoption. That combined with the fact that adding more configurable options makes the app more confusing is why we haven't done it. The reason BTC is more comfortable is because most others are using it still, so to break that momentum means doing something that's initially less comfortable. People need encouragement, so that's what we're providing by making an app that people love, but requires switching to bits. It's a short term inconvenience for a greater long term benefit.

100% agreed. Just searched to see if there was some way to switch from bits to BTC units. Why not give users a choice? An app that pushes its own beliefs is fine, as long as it only makes it the default but still provides choice to those who disagree. I otherwise love the app, but just don't feel comfortable using it if there is no option to have the value in BTC.

I get your point, I really do.
But wouldn't setting the default to bits, and giving users a choice to change that, accomplish the same thing?
Newbie users would see no reason to change the default settings, and more experienced users can choose what they want, be it bits, btc, mbtc or satoshi...

I realize it probably doesn't hold much weight when I say that, for me atleast, this is a dealbreaker. But that is the case, and I never use my breadwallet anymore, solely because of this.

Thanks much, we appreciate it!

The current version more than doubles those fees, and the next update will be pulling fee rates from an api (with a range restriction in the event the api is compromised)

We know this is annoying for long time bitcoiners, no body likes change, but we think it's important for the community to switch together to the new standard. Our goal is to increase bitcoin adoption among the 99.99% of people who haven't adopted it yet, and they're much more comfortable with two decimal place denominations. If the existing bitcoiners don't switch, they'll confuse newcomers and hurt adoption. Bits will also work forever even after bitcoin replaces every currency on the planet.

Hi Aaron,

Great work on Breadwallet !
We like it so much we have put it as our 'recommended for iOS' wallet:
https://beta.multibit.org/download.html

(that will be the new MultiBit website when it goes live).


I just wanted to point out that lowering fees to 1,000 satoshi / KB can cause problems to users.
When the network is busy (Like on Friday nights now) you can get bumped for several blocks as you are the least beautiful tx for the miners to pick up.

For MultiBit HD we give users the range to select from 1,000 to 10,000 satoshi / KB with a default of 3000.
That seems to get into the next block pretty reliably (at the moment).

Jim

The only thing that bothers me about breadwallet, is that I can't select to see the value in BTC, rather than bits.
Unless I've missed the option somewhere?
It actually bothers me so much that I keep going back to my old blockchain app instead, and that's the only reason.

Thank you. I know I can't "sign messages" with breadwallet and I could with the Core. But I think I will be ok. I have my passphrase written down and stored inside my fireproof safe at home and I have a copy stored inside my safe deposit box at my bank (with my other important papers). This is a really sweet app. Thank you!

The current version is now using bitpay.com/rates which includes over a hundred different currencies. (apparently some of the latin american currencies even use the street "blue dollar" rate over the official rate)

I'll leave it up to others to comment, and just say that breadwallet is the most popular wallet in the app store after coinbase and blockchain.info, and we've had zero reports of lost funds except when someone doesn't write down their recovery phrase *and* manages to forget their passcode. (so far only with trivial amounts) iPhone is also the most secure of the popular computing platforms with it's locked down, signed code only, app sandboxed, keychain service, full filesystem hardware encryption be default architecture, which is why we chose it as the platform to start with.

I am replacing the Bitcoin Core node I am hosting on my PC with a Bitnodes Hardware node (https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/hardware/) and I no longer want to run the core on my PC. Is breadwallet a viable option as my "only wallet"? Is it secure enough and robust enough? I am very impressed with it. I have been an iOS guy for a few years and don't plan to switch any time soon. Sorry for necro  

Hey Aaron, cool to see your feedback here!

How do you mean? In my experience, small transactions (e.g. sending only a few cents) with 0.00001 or even 0.000001 fees tend to get through just fine..? Even if they take a bit longer to confirm, but that doesn't matter in most cases.
Or did you mean, isn't designed for massive volumes of transactions? There are plenty ideas being considered and/or developed to deal with the blockchain size, I'm it will be resolved one way or another.
Anyway, it's great that lower fees will be available soon.

Painfully ontopic at the moment

Hmm, yeah, that might be a cool idea as well. But I actually meant something different: rather than (or in addition to) communicating with actual nodes (i.e. sending actual bitcoin traffic), simply call some of the many available online APIs to push a tx to the network, requiring nothing but a simple HTTP call with the transaction (in hex) as a GET or POST parameter.

For example, call http://btc.blockr.io/api/v1/tx/push with POST parameter: hex=0100020304etc (that's the tx data in hex) and they will push the tx onto the network.
Many other online services like easybit.com, helloblock.io, chain.com, blockchain.info, blockcyhper.com, etc offer similar functionality.

Sorry for not responding sooner. I need to check the forums more often.


This one is on the todo list, should be in the next update.


This one is done, will be in the next update. Bitcoin isn't really designed for micro-transactions though, so don't go and create a business model that relies on that long term.


It just uses blockchain.info/ticker for now, but will use multiple exchange rate api's in future to protect against any one getting hacked or going down.


It will display "not connected" if the bitcoin network isn't reachable, and iOS will display a login dialog if it detects a wi-fi web login. Running some bitcoin nodes on port 80 is a cool idea. If you know of a DNS seed that lists port 80 bitcoin nodes, I would consider including it.

Does iOS not detect gated wifi networks already? Android pops up a notification when it spots one of these.

If you vend requests that use the payment protocol and Breadwallet supports it, then you should be able to receive transactions via HTTP(S) directly instead of via the p2p network.

Hey Aaron, you're doing an awesome job with Breadwallet. It's hands down the best iOS wallet currently available, and I always recommend it to all iPhone/iPad owners.

I'm one of the organizers of Arnhem Bitcoincity and developer of our payment processor and point-of-sale solution BitKassa, so we're reaching quite some potential users. Apps like Breadwallet really help a lot in making Bitcoin more accessible for the Average Joe, and getting Bitcoin to turn mainstream!

Now, I do I have some suggestions I'd like to share:

1. Allow entering amount when receiving BTC
When receiving or requesting bitcoins, Breadwallet can only show a QR or copy/paste the address. What's missing here, is the option to specify an amount (in either euros or dollars or bit(coin)s). This allows people to show a QR that anyone can scan and pay immediately, without the hassle of mentioning or specifying the amount separately, and the other person having to enter that manually (with risk of typos, currency rate differences, etc)

2. Lower the fee
Any chance you can lower the default tx fee to 0.00001 BTC per 1000 bytes? This has actually been the default fee setting in Bitcoin Core already since v0.9. And the very commonly used Android Bitcoin Wallet by Andreas Schildbach has been using this fee setting as well for quite some time, always works fine (just very rarely, a tx might take two or three blocks to confirm, but never leads to any problems whatsoever).
The thing is, here in Europe, bank transfers are free. So when comparing Bitcoin to old fashioned banking, the 0.0001 BTC tx fee (approximately 0.03 euros) may actually seem quite expensive in comparison. Especially for microtransactions (e.g. a €1 donation) a 3% fee is relatively expensive. It would make a better case for Bitcoin usage if you apply the new default fee in Breadwallet too.

3. Better estimate for fiat/btc rates
What is your live euro↔bitcoin rate based on? In our payment processor, we use a weighted average of all major exchanges (including Bitstamp, converting USD to EUR according to their own buy rate). Still, we often notice that the amount in fiat displayed by Breadwallet appears to be higher than what seems to be a fair average rate - thus giving users the false impression they're paying more (in euros) than they're supposed to. In order not to give users an over-optimistic estimate of their wallet's current EUR value, is there any chance you can use a more balanced average of various eur/btc converion rates?

4. Dealing with crippled WiFi
In order to push transactions, do you actually connect to Bitcoin nodes directly (i.e. you need port 8333 access for most nodes) or can Breadwallet also use a web stub that works through port 80? The problem is, we quite often experience problems with public WiFi networks that have been limited, e.g. only ports for http(s) and email being accessible. Or even worse, open WiFi networks (in stores or public places) that have no password, but require a one-time login page to accept terms before allowing full internet access. When this happens, people's phones appear to have internet access, but any http request will redirect them to a login page. Now when trying to send a Bitcoin payment it won't work, thus giving the false impression that Bitcoin is having problems, rather than their WiFi / internet connection being crippled.
It would be great if you can 1. push txs through port 80 as well (through external API sites, there's plenty available) and 2. perhaps check if Breadwallet has a working connection, and if not, warn the user "Your internet connection seems to be restricted, perhaps you need to login to your WiFi network?" This may avoid a lot of unnecessary confusion.


I hope this helps in improving BreadWallet. Keep up the good stuff man. Love your work!

I am the author of breadwallet. Try the "rescan blockchain" option in settings if you are having trouble sending. The next update will detect the problem and recommend a rescan, in addition to some minor bug fixes that will make it less likely to get into that situation to begin with.

So I found out where I could receive support - https://itunes.apple.com/app/breadwallet/id885251393 - And I also came to find that someone had or is having the same issues as me as he/she wrote "The app was working great until a few days ago. Now the majority of my payments never complete. I have only made 1 successful payment out of the last 10. Maybe it is a bug from the IOS 8.0.2 update. I have a a concerning amount of BTC stuck in this wallet so hopefully it gets fixed soon. When the bug is fixed I will probably bump my rating up to 5(stars).

I will try to contact them and hopefully this problem does get resolved ASAP!

There is a new update release for iOS 8.1.2 - I will update phone then try out Bread Wallet once again and if that doesn't work, I will then try to back-up and delete/restore...

See how tired I am! I thought I was given a support link so that can contact Bread Wallet makers but this is just the actual website - app.breadwallet.com I haven't yet found any contact info.  I will continue to look...