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I have also donated 5% at claiming process. I care neither about the dramas here, nor the behavior of dave or anyone. I prefer to help testing and i believe in the success of IOTA. 

Great that you donated 5%, but I must ask: why be wary of it?

Raise hands those who care about swings in price.

I donated 5%. I was wary to do so but I understand. If the developers are asking for it, it must be important to the future of the project. I am excited to use IOTA in the future and hope my donation is put to good use.

I mean that it looks quite scary. It doesnt help confidence. I predict swings in price based on atmosphere in community.

what do you mean?

When I see communication between Dev and community members, I know there will be lot of fun, when trading starts.

and i am saying no man is an island.

I just say a lot of useless drama that damages the community could be avoided.

People started to donate. Isn't it the sign that David do all right ?

Yes, no need of an "official" community manager. But what I saw in this thread is some "good will" guys who tried to calm everyone down (including you) and being accused of trolling (and included in the group of annoying real trolls walking around in the thread).
For sure everyone should leave the drama, but please consider yourself to stay calm and leave it too. If we begin to accuse everyone else of trolling, then the real trolls win.
Anyway I'm happy to see that after a good night, your tone is different today compared to yesterday

btw currently we are at 49% of ***MINIMUM goal***.

stay calm and be generous guys

You can track it here: http://foundation.iotatoken.com/

i meant weighted donation rate.

~45%

what is the current weighted donation?

I think you confuse a few different issues here, though I may just misinterpret what you're saying.

I manage the people that needs to be managed in the sense of allocating their talents and time to issues that are actually important to IOTA's growth as a technology. But there's no reason to give someone an official title as 'community manager' who keeps track of every question in the community. Like I said: these roles have to emerge naturally, like they're already doing.

I am answering the questions within my domain and let other people find and fill theirs. This goes back to exactly why we did not allocate a premine and act as we do towards pure speculators: we don't want bystander effects. We want people to get involved and DO THEIR PART as community members.If we said 'X is now officially community manager' we would just see further bystander effects. Everyone should just jump in where they see fit and then these roles will be carved by the darwinian social dynamics of the community. It's really that simple, no need for me to officially appoint someone to such a broad position that will consist of several people, of which one is already Yassin. I didn't need to tell him to do it, he just stepped up like a champ and focus on certain issues, which is why I gave him admin on chat and forum so he can do his self-appointed job more efficiently. As more and more such people come forth the same will happen. This is a non-concern to me.

As for documentation etc. again this is a community issue. I have already requested for people with talent in documentation to step forth, because it's one of the most important aspects and it's time consuming, meaning it can't be done by just 1 person. We are already seeing some people assume responsibility and initiate such efforts and I predict we'll see tons more as the project evolves.


Right now the only real thing that truly matters is that people understand the situation of the project, what our role and responsibility is, what we have proposed to the community through the foundation and then if the community chooses we will get that ball rolling fast. I have tons of things prepared for months, not to mention the GUI and new website and official launch. Everything is really going smoothly, people just need to stop focusing on drama and act like responsible adults in an open source movement like they are. If everyone does that then there would be no further issues.

Exactly for the same reasons CfB answered "ask David" when someone asked him about business/legal topics at the beginning of Jinn.
The point is not to be hold community members by the hand, but to manage people, deal with questionning people and trolls, maintain a topic or a document that summarize information (a big lake of this: to find information you have to follow the chat, and this 200+ pages thread) onto the newbies can be directed, etc.
AND a good community manager is a guy who can answer 1000 time the same question on the same tone. E.G. a guy like Bas.

Why do we need a 'community manager'? What is that even meant to be? As an open source project and community those roles just emerge naturally. I am responding to the issues pertaining to the software we sold as a company, as the leader of the project and business. I'm not here to hold your hand or sing you lullabys. If there's an issue, I will handle it, if there's a genuine question, I will answer it. But where did you get this idea that we need a dedicated 'community manager'? We have several of those already, including Yassin who is doing a tremendous job in keeping track of community issues.

why don't you find a community manager? Many of us understand you are upset to answer 1000 times the same question and being questioned by trolls on various topics. You could focus on real business and other stuffs you are good at. (you are not a good community manager)