man don't get into the same argument all over, people are used to the word investor, my god,thats why they use it, there is more important issues at hand, like how could bigiotabig for example donate before the launch? you said it wil be possible but how.
Do you want the foundation to be funded? is it still your ideal scenario? how about working together at reaching that goal than.
that funding progress page is a good start.
now clarity about timeframes would be helpfull too, i know thats coming soon. and a solution for those willing to donate without a genesis account or those that will only claim after launch cause it feels more secure to them. If you want to give them the possibility to donate set the daedline after official launch, perhaps shortly. i don't know whats to loose from that. the launch will happen anyway as i understand. the foundations funding defines the path afterwords, right.
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ALL the 'drama' comes from trolls and people who literally view me and CfB as their slaves who somehow OWE them something more than the software they purchased because they only purchased the software for speculative purposes. It's insane. I've worked my ass off as a volunteer of the community, not just the leader and initiator of IOTA who SOLD SOFTWARE, but as an activist of IOTA, as a consequence of this I have made people hundreds of thousands of dollars and people still complain and talk about 'threatening', 'blackmailing' and 'hostage' because we refuse to be treated like shit. It's pure insanity.
David, you are a smart guy. You know that "Don't feed the trolls". The drama comes not only from the troll but from your answers that feed the trolls too.
Your feeling is "that is not my fault at all." but the reality is that your constant answers/insults to the troll participate to the bad ambiance.
Yes, I don't agree with the "poor little david" theory and, if you think I'm a troll, I'm ok if you don't answer to me.
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Now let's speak about the FEELING of hostage. First of all, I never say that we are hostages, I only say that we have the feeling to be.
It's not because the real situation is not true that the feeling is not true. That's the basis of community management.
We have to fight against the feeling, it's important and you don't fight in the good way. Your aggressive communication don't help, really.
Yes, you work hard and for free. For sure that you are competent to manage Jinn and to speak with IoT ventures, but your management of this crowdfunding is really bad. Sorry, you are not a good community manager.
I proposed my help weeks ago for this crowdfunding and community management. I launched the google sheet with yassin to count the donations. But I never feel some interest on my "work" (it wasn't really big). I have the feeling that you want to control every thing.
I don't propose anymore my help because for sure we'll fight on every little things and you don't trust me (you think that I'm a troll).
But stop talking about your community management and let's focus on the crowdfunding.
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The basis of a good crowdfunding campaign :
1) The donators/investors should feel in security.
What we can do better :
- The actual donation system is not secure from the donator side. Donation on a test net is not a good idea.
- We don't have any idea of who and how the founds will be managed. Why you don't want to use escrows.
- We need to see transparency on the donations. What about a tangle explorer to see who and how many accounts give
2) The funding should adapt himself to the investors and gives them the tools to give what they want.
What we can do better :
- You only accept Iota... why you don't accept other payment ? It's donations, there is no risk on your side. And if you really want Iota, it's not complicated to buy Iota with the BTC you receive, no?
- Some people want to give (bigIotabig for exemple) but actually they can't because their can't receive their iota stakes from the sellers.
3) The donators/investors should feel integrated in the process.
What we can do better :
- You can propose "insiders" informations. Normaly Iota propose messaging. Why you don't propose special informations with Iota messaging about your work to the people who gave a consistent part of their stake (5% for example)
- You can propose to the community to help and delegate some tasks.
- Donation shouldn't be an obligation but a pleasure (ok it's not really an obligation and we are not hostage. But from the other side, you can't say CfB and me are only "simple member of the community" or what we can do every body can do it. You are not simple "Ioters", you are more than that for ever. You have to integrate that in your communication). You give some "impossible" date for the end of the funding : "we need to fund before the launch !!!" Why couldn't you wait 1 or 2 weeks after the launch to see how the funding will continue?
You are sure that the founding can't work after the launch... you're possibly right but you take no risk to try. You can always send back the donations and give up the foundation if the founding don't work. I don't see reason why we have to make every thing in the precipitation...
I don't say we need to do all my propositions, I only give ideas how to make a better campaign.
Now, if you feel I'm a troll, please don't answer to me. And if you don't want any input from me, CfB can contact me by PM and ask that I'm not welcome on this thread. I'm not childish and I'll not speak anymore on this thread.
Have a good day
