Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 14. (Read 171575 times)

WTB: Still looking for 1Ti for 11,5 BTC

Je mehr Du dazu schreibst, desto lächerlicher machst Du dich!

Hat dich die Gier (OHNE AUCH NUR ANSATZWEISE über Iota recherchiert zu haben) blind gemacht? Oder bist du schlicht einfältig?

Dominik Schiener, das klinkt ja auch so russisch, oder usbekisch, oder türkisch.

yumei [11:59 PM]  
hi, sprichst du deutsch ?

Dominik Schiener [11:59 PM]  
a little but my English is better

You can use the address before attaching to tangle

False. Our communication is 100% blunt precisely because it's the only way to get things across. I know people with little experience think that you should be polite and understanding in all situations, but the thing is that then we'd get absolutely NOTHING done.

And calling you stupid is just an observation, its not an ad hominem, you randomly sent over 5000 dollars to someone you had no idea who were within 5 minutes of entering the chat, without doing ANY attempt at verifying anything. That is objectively stupid, it has nothing to do with insulting or making fun of you. How your fuckup translates into us being ignorant is a bigger mystery than quantum superpositions.

After I entered the trading channel, the user "Dominik Schiener" contacted me.
At the end of our conversation the user changed his name to: "Admiral Bit"

Dominik Schiener [11:56 PM]  
Hi, if you are looking to source IOTA quickly and secure I am offering batches of 1 TIOTA @ 10 Bitcoin per batch.  If you require any just let me know.  Thanks, Dom

yumei [11:59 PM]  
hi, sprichst du deutsch ?

Dominik Schiener [11:59 PM]  
a little but my English is better


----- Today August 30th, 2016 -----
yumei [12:00 AM]  
ah ok I thought your name is german

Dominik Schiener [12:00 AM]  
If you need the IOTA wallet, latest build here : https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases/tag/1.0.4.beta
 GitHub
iotaledger/wallet
wallet - IOTA Wallet
 

yumei [12:01 AM]  
well can you explain me how it works with trading, do I need to transfer BTC anywhere for the bot recognizing it, or its just a OTC between me and you where we have to handle anything else ?

Dominik Schiener [12:02 AM]  
I am one of the IOTA devs so trades are secure.  You can also go to the trading channel and type "BIDS" or "ASKS" for the bot to respond.  Trades are manual so escrow is recommended if you are dealing with a regular member here

[12:04]  
Seccour or Yassin are recommended for Escrow

yumei [12:04 AM]  
ok I understand, may I ask you some questions then? is IOTA pow or pos, how is it different to bitcoin beside there is no typical blockchain, my english is poor, so I didnt understand that much. but if you don´t have time to explain its fine I will search elsewhere, but I am highly interested to buy from you

Dominik Schiener [12:05 AM]  
All the info you require can be found here in detail : https://www.iotatoken.com/

[12:06]  
IOTA has big advantages over bitcoin regarding scalability, no fees, fully decentralized

yumei [12:07 AM]  
ok i am actually installing the client, how long you will be online to do the trade ?

Dominik Schiener [12:09 AM]  
I will be on and off on a regular basis. When you are ready please use the following bitcoin address for payment : [hidden]

After transfer drop me a pm with your IOTA address, IOTA will be sent after 1 confirmation of the bitcoin

[12:10]  
You dont needa fully synced wallet to complete the trade and you can also check the IOTA has been sent using the tangle explorer here :  http://tangle.guru/

yumei [12:10 AM]  
ok thanks a lot Dominik, I appreciate your help a lot, I will pm you when I do the first 10 btc batch for 1 T IOTA

Dominik Schiener [12:10 AM]  
No probs.

Dominik Schiener [12:53 AM]  
heading offline soon.  If you decide to purchase the IOTA just send to the bitcoin to the above address (Hidden) then message me your IOTA address.  IOTA will be sent when I come back online shortly.  Current price is 10 BTC per 1 TIOTA (25 batches available)  - price is also subject to change so dont think about it too long :wink:  thanks, Dom.

yumei [12:55 AM]  
yes, actually I am downloading the data, seems like I need to download if completly before I can attach my address to tangle ?

[12:55]  
unfortunatly client is not showing me on status bar, how much I have still to download

Dominik Schiener [12:56 AM]  
You can use the address before attaching to tangle.  to give you an idea of how much you need to download you can reference the milestones here :  https://iotatangle.slack.com/messages/botbox/

yumei [12:57 AM]  
milestoneIndex
3005

[12:57]  
its not moving here

[12:58]  
ok give me 10 minutes, I will send you the first 10 btc

Dominik Schiener [12:58 AM]  
no probs, ill hold on a bit before logging off then

yumei [1:01 AM]  
FGCFLHTPTFRZVVLMDQIPWQXXHBEDBMRWILGFVEQHGBJHTYZN9MUYTNBUKCSZKKHEJLGKHGWUGQV9PMX CKQFI9IKUDO

Dominik Schiener [1:02 AM]  
ok, as soon as I get the transaction I.D ill get the IOTA sent over to you.  You can then check in tangle explorer that it has been sent if your wallet hasnt fully synced up

[1:05]  
bitcoin received.  sending IOTA now.

yumei [1:06 AM]  
ok

Dominik Schiener [1:08 AM]  
All sent, should show in your wallet shortly.

yumei [1:09 AM]  
ok thanks, I will test the client and read more about IOTA and might coming back to you, is there any discount when I decide to buy more / higher amounts ?

You are right about it, but afterwards being called "stupid" repeatedly from another guy calling himself IOTAtoken - — David Sønstebø, Co-founder of IOTA, gives me the urge to warn other people from their ignorance and dourness.

In France, be blunt != be rude, but i don't know what is the usage in other countries

I take issue with this nonsense, we are as blunt as physically possible to make sure there is no ambiguity or mix up of roles precisely to avoid situations such as these.

Everyone knows communication isn't the main skill of the team. Now please stop whinning everywhere (this will not change anything to your loss) and move on.


NUTSHELL!!!

You are right about it, but afterwards being called "stupid" repeatedly from another guy calling himself IOTAtoken - — David Sønstebø, Co-founder of IOTA, gives me the urge to warn other people from their ignorance and dourness.

Everyone knows communication isn't the main skill of the team. Now please stop whinning everywhere (this will not change anything to your loss) and move on.

Hey smartass.
1. I didn´t use escrow because I thought I am dealing directly with the dev, who are normaly the guys doing escrow for trades, just check the log I sent, there you will find more information. In Slack it is possible to use anybody nickname and pictures, even in the same channel. It was my fault not being more suspicious, but slack is definiatly not adequate doing trades for non-geeks.
Btw. I read following page, where is nowhere warned of scammer on slack: https://forum.iotatoken.com/t/first-steps-in-order-to-buy-iota-and-how-you-set-up-your-wallet/772
2. Yes correct
3. Correct
4. Correct, thats why his "joke" is so disgusting.

And what you are telling is not true, at least where I am living, in my real-life nobody makes jokes about someone losing more than 5.000 usd instantly afterwards. You don´t amuse yourself at the expense of sb. else, this has to do with good behaving and has nothing to do with the IQ.
If you are sociopath or autistic you might find it funny because you are not able to empathize with someone else.

I interpret that phrase as "you can do nothing except blaming yourself", not as a joke. Thoughts chain is pretty short:
1. You didn't use an escrow
2. You lost the bitcoins
3. The bitcoins can't be returned
4. You have no an option except blaming yourself (because Bitcoin devs will never make a fork)

People with high IQ tend to verbalize only the final stage assuming that the previous steps are obvious. Jokes work in a similar manner, they require a listener to construct intermediary steps in the mind, one of the steps triggers the reaction in brain. BTW, this is why quite often we see people who don't get a joke, low IQ doesn't allow to construct thoughts chain that make other people laugh.

So, I think "the real dev" wasn't making fun of you.

Afterwards the real dev with the same nick was making fun of me, I don´t think that is professional:

Beware, I was scammed 10 BTC on IOTA slack channel from someone using the same nickname and picture of the dev. I didn´t know you can use any nickname on slack, so I accepted a non escrow trade, especially having one of the "devs" as trading partner.
When the trade was done, the scammer changed his name back.
https://iotatangle.slack.com/archives/D265GEA84/s1472507814000002

Afterwards the real dev with the same nick was making fun of me, I don´t think that is professional: