Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 41. (Read 171564 times)

I believe it was constructive; Dom kindly updated the website to include more information.

Ok "Gary". I'll sell you exactly zero iota when you turn 14.

I personally think that the teams approach is 100℅ valid and correct. Anyone that wants to sell their tokens can do so. If you believe that David and co. Has the future of IOTA as the #1 priority and that is the correct approachcan, you can donate and  hold.

No one is forced to buy anything, and no one has lost any money on the software sale so far. And if you are concerned, I will buy ANY amount you want to sell at 5 x ICO price (ANY amount).

In the end stable owners, ecosystem, and a foundation that is equipped to make larger deals and commitments to business partners and projects is a value driver for all token holders that far outweigh the "cost" of a percentage of the tokens in this early stage.

Remember, we are dealing with bleeding edge crypto here. And if successful, we may see an ecosystem worthy of rivaling Bitcoin in a marker of significant size.

I personally support the team as I did when I took part in the sale.

My 5 IOTA

David's position is understable. He wishes success to IOTA and does whatever is necessary for it. Foundation and asian direction marketing (big deal) are important steps to survive in highly competitive IoT global market.
Call for investors, defend your investments and donate as much as you can. Don't be passive and greedy as good as some NXT ancient whales and don't let die our IOTA baby!
Too pathetic, I know but it is not my native tongue.

I've decided to just go ahead and go with the flow:

1) will up my donation to foundation from its current 7.5%
2) will donate 3% to bigdeal (which is the amount that would be enough if everyone donated)

Just want to go ahead and do my part and let the chips fall where they may.

Actually very little has changed. All of the primary issues remain the same. We have an old 'pledge sheet' of users who wanted to contribute to 'Big deal' of which almost everyone accepted 'whatever going rate' and eventually a huge portion said 'I want to forward my sale proceedings to the foundation', so for those people NOTHING has changed. Those who were looking for a big ROI would never have gotten it anyway, this deal is about bringing on board 2 key players for huge ROI, not get some random relatively useless ROI in terms of immediate profit. This is key to asian market, community need to choose.

My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          cc001
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3btc           schnib (twinwinnerd)
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2btc           Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          arjen01 PAID
166,771,860,000.00    @ 1.5btc        MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00      @ 0.1btc        tk88one
138,976,550,000.00    @ 1.25 btc      proto
22,236,248,000.00      @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00  @ 80 Btc        bigiotabig PAID
55,590,620,000.00      @ 0.5 Btc       Torn
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          transpotime21bus PAID
22,236,248,000          @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          ramsroyal (seccour)
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          mr001 PAID
113,960,771,000        @ 1.025 btc     braelis
544,788,076,000        @ 4.9 btc        [anon] PAID
55,590,620,000          @ 0.5 btc        SupZ
200G                       @ 2 btc           hasseklas
240G.                      @ 2btc            Olloman PAID
60G                         @ 0.5 btc        dean (seccour) PAID
120G                       @ 1 btc           Ratatosk (seccour) PAID
120G                       @ 1 btc           ElitistCA (seccour)
600G                       @ 5 btc           btcddev PAID
2700G.                    @ 22.5btc.        Azeh PAID

I am now currently selling more IOTA at a rate of 55Gi / 1 BTC. Please contact me if interested!

Sounds like a detailed writeup regarding the specifics of this deal is soon needed (respecting NDA's or whatever), imo. Frankly it is clear as mud and to expecting another 83 Tiota, within a week no less, that will need to be resolved hastily.

It's still a sale, but all proceeds go to foundation. The reason is quite simple: we don't have time time to differentiate 10s or hundreds of different people's requests, what rate they want to sell at, which want to forward to foundation and not etc. would take weeks

what is the current usd marketcap of iotatokens?

When and why did this change from a favored rate sale to a donation?

Could we stay more constructive please, Scott?!.

And please stop this abortion mother father bla blaaa,, all of ya. This is not professional. thanks! You should consider that a lot of other people reading this (yes unbelievable, right?),believe me btt is no hidden place anymore, thanks.

The devs could already walk away with no repercussions if they wanted. Iota is released, the purchased product is delivered. So, what chain of reasoning led to those words of yours?

Agreed - some of what you have helpfully explained isn't even linked from the donation page.

@iotatoken - can you update the website to give as much information as possible? Someone new to this would have no idea what it is about.

IOTA Big Deal donations will be considered that, donations (to foundation), because the labour involved in resolving those that donate and those that don't is too great.

If anyone has an issue with this and want their iotas back, speak now. The deal is not about ROI anyway, only about the big deal happening for IOTA's ecosystem

We are "selling" at a discounted rate (but we don't seem to be able to see what rate).
Without more information I think this is pretty hopeless.

Edited to reflect new info:

BIG DEAL = DONATION

So we are donating funds to these companies?

There are two large "players" we don't know what they are (companies? VC firms? etc etc) looking to enter IOTA in a big way - this deal is for "them". That's all we are allowed to know at this stage as far as I can tell.

No information or details just a "give us more money" request.

From the below statement, things have not yet been decided, finalised or yet become a "reality" so not sure what the extra money is for at this point unless its just being used as bribe money for these big players to become involved

The ‘Big Deal’ initiative is still on and need to be decided on by the 25th of July also. I still cannot provide much additional information here for the exact same reasons as always, in IOTA we keep things under the hood until they are a reality, we do not want fake hype or speculators taking advantage of misleading information. It’s not only because we don’t care for speculators, but also because it artificially inflates values which in the long term can be very detrimental due to lack of growth. What I can say is that currently we have narrowed the ‘Big Deal’ to what we consider to be 2 key players, which we’ve been in touch with for months now, they will play a significant role in IOTA adoption. Big Deal link is: http://bigdeal.iotatoken.com2

What do you mean players? There is zero information about what the money will be used for from the links given.