Beware of price gouging!!!
I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.
There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators
It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.
As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.
Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:
1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI
Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity?
You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.
Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...
Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 58. (Read 171575 times)
Just paid my 1 BTC into the escrow, waiting for Admiral to send.
Regards
Regards
The deal is off! I was not included in the signed message. I was called XXXBuyerXXX
No deal!, No Bet!
Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?
Im so on the edge of glory right now...
Im so on the edge of glory right now...
I said I wouldn't tease you, do you see the difference?
well thats teasing...
Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?
Im so on the edge of glory right now...
Im so on the edge of glory right now...
I said I wouldn't tease you, do you see the difference?
I am preety sure if the op asks him to leave and he doesnt we can report to mods to get his account banned.
Well potential potential buyers; look at what happens after you became a headless chicken. You become a piece of meat, advertising a similar fate.
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...
Could you provide something that proves your words? After you lied and bragged about that everyone will question your words... but you are not surprised of this outcome, are you?
Didnt you say you wouldnt react to my Posts anymore?
Im so on the edge of glory right now...
Just paid my 1 BTC into the escrow, waiting for Admiral to send.
Regards
Regards
Well potential potential buyers; look at what happens after you became a headless chicken. You become a piece of meat, advertising a similar fate.
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...
Could you provide something that proves your words? After you lied and bragged about that everyone will question your words... but you are not surprised of this outcome, are you?
@Admiral bit
It is your right to think the price of IOTA is too high.
It is your right to warn people if you believe the price in uncorrelated with real value.
It is NOT right to spam the thread with your posts and flooding all other potentially interesting info with your troll spamming.
In every thread there is one or few trolls, now we have Admiral bit, he deserves the title very well.
Hey 1st time you won a competition I guess? Congrats !
It is your right to think the price of IOTA is too high.
It is your right to warn people if you believe the price in uncorrelated with real value.
It is NOT right to spam the thread with your posts and flooding all other potentially interesting info with your troll spamming.
In every thread there is one or few trolls, now we have Admiral bit, he deserves the title very well.
Hey 1st time you won a competition I guess? Congrats !
You see; over here it works like this:
- The OTC sellers are the butchers
- The buyers are the chicken
- I am the PETA activist
Chicken are unable to defend themselves, so someone has to step in for their safety... --> Who you ganna call?
Unfortunately you have already been butchered, so there is nothing i can do for you anymore. But I wont accept anymore scalped chicken. The line must be drawn here...
This is priceless guys :
Don't forget to put me in your Trust list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust ) to see scammers account with a negative trust so you know that there are scammers ( no negative trust != trustworthy ).
And don't relay on quotes !
This user is a Legendary Member. If you are expecting a message from this member then it is genuine !!!
Hi *****,
Ill take the 2 X 500 GIota @ 10BTC for myself.
Hope you are OK with me Escrowing the sale
My Iota Address :
AXIUAWI9SJMKHQQXAW9KIFKNZKNQUPISMSEYGBKJYFXLUMRCYKMSYLJFPZUUFWWHCBGFGO9TAGAJEYZ DCAMWNWPHM9
After transfer just drop me a pm with your BTC address and ill get right over to you.
Cheers,
Seccour
Don't forget to put me in your Trust list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust ) to see scammers account with a negative trust so you know that there are scammers ( no negative trust != trustworthy ).
And don't relay on quotes !
Update:
Want to sell:
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC sold
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC
Escrow only with Seccour.
Thank you very much.
Want to sell:
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC
1x 500 GIota for 5BTC
Escrow only with Seccour.
Thank you very much.
This user is a Legendary Member. If you are expecting a message from this member then it is genuine !!!
Hi *****,
Ill take the 2 X 500 GIota @ 10BTC for myself.
Hope you are OK with me Escrowing the sale
My Iota Address :
AXIUAWI9SJMKHQQXAW9KIFKNZKNQUPISMSEYGBKJYFXLUMRCYKMSYLJFPZUUFWWHCBGFGO9TAGAJEYZ DCAMWNWPHM9
After transfer just drop me a pm with your BTC address and ill get right over to you.
Cheers,
Seccour
@Admiral bit
It is your right to think the price of IOTA is too high.
It is your right to warn people if you believe the price in uncorrelated with real value.
It is NOT right to spam the thread with your posts and flooding all other potentially interesting info with your troll spamming.
In every thread there is one or few trolls, now we have Admiral bit, he deserves the title very well.
Hey 1st time you won a competition I guess? Congrats !
It is your right to think the price of IOTA is too high.
It is your right to warn people if you believe the price in uncorrelated with real value.
It is NOT right to spam the thread with your posts and flooding all other potentially interesting info with your troll spamming.
In every thread there is one or few trolls, now we have Admiral bit, he deserves the title very well.
Hey 1st time you won a competition I guess? Congrats !
wait so Admiral thinks it will be at below 0.5 BTC / 100 Giota 24hours after launch.
How much do you want to bet on that? I demand full escrow of the bet because I don't trust you a sinlge bit.
Regards
How much do you want to bet on that? I demand full escrow of the bet because I don't trust you a sinlge bit.
Regards
I am going to accept this bet. Escrowed of course:
Bet Details:
Admiral_Bit and TwinWinNerD will each place 0,5 BTC into Escrow
If IOTA is under 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, Admiral_Bit wins 1 BTC, minus Escrow fee
If IOTA is over 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, TwinWinNerD wins 1 BTC minus Escrow fee
Escrow must not be a current IOTA OTC seller
Do we have a deal?
Sounds good. We can even increase the betsize if you want.
Please suggest an escrow, I have worked with SebastianJu last and had a pleasant experience.
Still no bet confirmation by TwinWinNerD. Escrow is ready.
Seems like OTC sellers dont believe their own stories..
Just sent the confirmation to SebastianJu. Sorry for the delay
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Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
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Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
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Interesting, what kind of risks do you assess?
he has Rise coin
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Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
[...]
Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
[...]
Interesting, what kind of risks do you assess?
Beware of price gouging!!!
I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.
There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators
It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.
As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.
Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:
1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI
Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity?
You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.
Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...
I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.
There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators
It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.
As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.
Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:
1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI
Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity?
You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....
Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.
Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...
FYI: User kurujuipe (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kurujuipe-875012) tried to scam me with a faked Seccour quote.
wait so Admiral thinks it will be at below 0.5 BTC / 100 Giota 24hours after launch.
How much do you want to bet on that? I demand full escrow of the bet because I don't trust you a sinlge bit.
Regards
How much do you want to bet on that? I demand full escrow of the bet because I don't trust you a sinlge bit.
Regards
I am going to accept this bet. Escrowed of course:
Bet Details:
Admiral_Bit and TwinWinNerD will each place 0,5 BTC into Escrow
If IOTA is under 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, Admiral_Bit wins 1 BTC, minus Escrow fee
If IOTA is over 0,5 btc per 100 Giota 24 hours after start of trading on Poloniex, TwinWinNerD wins 1 BTC minus Escrow fee
Escrow must not be a current IOTA OTC seller
Do we have a deal?
Sounds good. We can even increase the betsize if you want.
Please suggest an escrow, I have worked with SebastianJu last and had a pleasant experience.
Still no bet confirmation by TwinWinNerD. Escrow is ready.
Seems like OTC sellers dont believe their own stories..
I'd like to remind that Admiral_Bit was caught on outright lies several times, his words need extra verification.
I´d like to remind everyone, that iam not selling anything in here. My job is it to keep the community up to date regarding possible price scalpers. Please also keep in mind, that the ICO was divided up between approx 300 initial buyers. There is enough potential for falling prices, since IOTA heavily relies on widespread distribution.
As of now a IOTA confirmation takes about 12 hours to process. Currently the system is unable to serve as a decentralized crypto coin. Price gixing strategies of the OTC sellers are bound to fail once IOTA hits exchanges.
Dont buy now!
I didnt participate in the ICO, but bought afterwards for a much higher price. And you know what? I'm totally fine with that.
The first investors carry the biggest risk. OFC they will take more now because that is how risk-investment works. Who are you to interfere? If people want to pay less, lets assume they are grown-ups, they can ask for lower prices! People in crypto aint brainless muppets. Risk-assessment is a vital part of the game, so stop incapacitate people.
You see; over here it works like this:
- The OTC sellers are the butchers
- The buyers are the chicken
- I am the PETA activist
Chicken are unable to defend themselves, so someone has to step in for their safety... --> Who you ganna call?
Unfortunately you have already been butchered, so there is nothing i can do for you anymore. But I wont accept anymore scalped chicken. The line must be drawn here...
I was butchered? hehehehe.
My assessment told me that Tangle is revolutionary tech and that I dont need to worry.
What was your part again? To be peta? What a bad paradigm.
You know, we all saw you exploding in the RISE-thread, now you are here. I guess there will be next projects where you can behave like an idiot, so this is a never ending story. But you cannot change the world man. Here are other threads with other cryptos and there also are people earning money with TAKING THE FUCKING RISK AT THE ICO, where they can LOSE EVERYTHING.
And this project is a good one so people actually EARN MONEY because it's WORTH IT. Buddy it's not that hard to understand. But thanks for wasting our time.
Maybe you can built a time-machine to travel back to the goldrush to fuck all the shovel-sellers. Wouldnt that be great? Cool, now you got a task.
Well potential potential buyers; look at what happens after you became a headless chicken. You become a piece of meat, advertising a similar fate.
@ Potential buyers don´t listen to headless chicken. Their ability to think is highly impaired...
You're still trying to be the adult here, putting everyone under tutelage. I didnt feel grateful while I was investing in the ICO from waves and you were fucking around, and now I'm still not feeling grateful even as a late buyer.
And you will change nothing.
BTW. While you're betting on the on-trade-prices, why dont you wait and buy "cheap IOTA" there instead of fudding and beeing the most unimportant cockblock in the history of mankind? Damn kiddo, go home!
@admiral
You have got some serious hurt.
But rest assure, there will be other opportunities for you if you want.
Check the treads, gather information. This way you are able to make a well informed decisions on which Ico, crowdfund, whatever to donate to.
Rise Ico > Not so good donation, but come on!, a copy/paste of Lisk, you should know better.
Iota Ico > Good donation. New tech, great community, great dev team and so on.
Ethereum > Good Ico donation, but to invest now? It's a tough call.
DAO > Not so good donation, too much money donated for everyone to profit, even besides the hack.
So go investigate, be patient and try to be constructive. To have critique is good, but please back it up with facts.
You have got some serious hurt.
But rest assure, there will be other opportunities for you if you want.
Check the treads, gather information. This way you are able to make a well informed decisions on which Ico, crowdfund, whatever to donate to.
Rise Ico > Not so good donation, but come on!, a copy/paste of Lisk, you should know better.
Iota Ico > Good donation. New tech, great community, great dev team and so on.
Ethereum > Good Ico donation, but to invest now? It's a tough call.
DAO > Not so good donation, too much money donated for everyone to profit, even besides the hack.
So go investigate, be patient and try to be constructive. To have critique is good, but please back it up with facts.
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