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April 04, 2016, 04:14:31 PM
so the secret will be kept unless we decide to extend our legal team and set them on him as a test task

Sergey, you are pathetic. As you are getting more and more worried that the Russian prosecutors indeed already teamed up with the Belarusians and are coming for you, you are more and more pathetic.

Let me know if you want the info regarding what you can extend from the shit hole of Belarus from where you promise to your greedy crowd that you will make them rich and from where you scam these poor souls. Then I will let you know what you really can extend from your hiding place, the shit hole of Belarus.





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April 04, 2016, 03:52:31 PM
Honestly IOTA is a scam and the people who run it are scoundrels I know all about the NXT community but oh well pay into it if you must.

Spot on. Shills and sockpuppets promote the blatant IOTA scam among the few greedy idiots who believe in the fairy tale of revolutionary asynchronous JINN microprocessor, the non-existent IoT software and retardedly believe that the signup process to MS Azure is actually a partnership.
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April 04, 2016, 03:51:17 PM
even that my daytime job is not computer programming in the last 10 years

Can you imagine guys, he posted the truth this time! Unbelievable! I'm sure in this because recently my text analyzer bot, used in the past to hunt for sockpuppets, has finished processing BTT posts and gave a match with another BTT account. I happened to have conversations with that second user and knew some personal things that he told about himself. Manual comparison of these two identities gives so many matches that I'm 99% it's him. I can't disclose his 2nd account without harming innocent parties related to him, so the secret will be kept unless we decide to extend our legal team and set them on him as a test task. I just wanted to inform you about this case which is more rare than planet parade.
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April 04, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
thank you for your valuable opinion!

what is there to know about the NXT community that makes you so wise? ;>

Taking into account that the dude is Russian, I assume that he is a member of that famous Russian mafia that controls 90% of NXTs. You can ask CIYAM for the details. Make sure you use one of those hundreds sockpuppets that you/I control. Yes, it's just a note to myself.
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April 04, 2016, 03:14:33 PM
Honestly IOTA is a scam and the people who run it are scoundrels I know all about the NXT community but oh well pay into it if you must.

thank you for your valuable opinion!

what is there to know about the NXT community that makes you so wise? ;>
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April 04, 2016, 03:11:34 PM
Honestly IOTA is a scam and the people who run it are scoundrels I know all about the NXT community but oh well pay into it if you must.
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April 04, 2016, 03:07:15 PM

I feel sorry for the young gmaxwell that an old fool like TPTB_need_war harasses him. I am older actually than TPTB_need_war is, still I just call him an old fool. gmaxwell is a polite, knowledgeable and nice young man. Anywhere I go to promote Bitcoin (meetups, etc) and the aims or technology of BTC are questioned I say, see the people like gmaxwell who design Bitcoin and that says all about the project itself. The young gmaxwel has been a fantastic asset to the cryptocurrency idea/movement. Anyone who wrote a line of code should have nothing but respect to gmaxwell. Still, the old fool TPTB_need_war attacks gmaxwell.

There are charlatans and mediocre, semi-skilled developers like IOTA's Come-from-Beyond, the children who develop LISK, Banxshare and the charlatans of other scams who know little about computer science or software development, but are good enough to roll-out these scams. Should these semi-skilled charlatans scrutinized? Absolutely. They are disgrace to our profession and the software development industry, their pathetic scams bring nothing but bad name to crypto. Should super-intelligent young men like gmaxwell harassed? Absolutely not. Still, TPTB_need_war is very forgiving with scammers like IOTA, LISK, Banxshare. TPTB_need_war says to lure money out of the pockets of noobs, naive and idiots is part of the game. On the other hand he attacks the always polite and civil BTC developer gmaxwell who actually delivers a novel technology. WTF?

Be careful with the incoming coin of TPTB_need_war. He says it is a company share, etc, but when - top on the company share bullshit - you will see the TPTB_need_war coin then remember: it is a P&D scheme. His "angel investors" will pump the TPTB_need_war coin while the marketing theme will be: "ohhhh see, there is a genius TPTB_need_war created it, it must be valuable". That's why he engages in all kind of technological debates with peoples who matters like gmaxwell, to build his profile, which then will be sold to the naive, noobs and idiots.


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April 04, 2016, 10:04:14 AM
*cancels all scheduled meetings/events/etc*
**orders pizza and popcorn
***wraps self in blaketbuddy

Ok, go for it guys...


Why would I? Do you have programming skill I need?

In case you have read my comments about software, I know you understand very well that I am a very-very experienced computer programmer, even that my daytime job is not computer programming in the last 10 years (which of course you don't know and I am just telling it). So - in case you have read my comments about software - you are obviously provoking me. Never mind, lets start this who is the biggest dick competition. Though knowing who is my opponent it will be an uphill task to win such contest.

Yes, I have programming skills, most likely more than you will ever have. Of course I need to be careful with such statement and I would never make such in a professional environment, but since this is the who is the biggest dick competition (which you have started)  in the most notorious forum of the internet, I can incorporate trollish remarks in my post.

I saw very little from your codes, but what I saw indicates we are not in the same league terms in writing software. You are clearly not as good as you think you are. The matter of fact is, I am skeptical you can write any complex code which actually works. The issue is, I think you are a bit delusional about your own abilities, most likely about business as well. I will explain what makes me think this. You are making frequent comments about UI design and how skilled UI developer you are. In the meantime, your 1997 theme web site that promotes your previous (last?) software is still online, in fact you frequently quote that link during your debates. Now, any non-delusional software developer would understand how tragicomical is to claim great UI design skill and in the meantime display a fucking 1997 design theme on your website. Any computer programmer with having basic professional pride would redesigned that web site a very long time ago, the rational ones did it in 1999 if that late at all. You have not, in the meantime you lecture fellow software engineers in 24/7 about software design.
Of course you are more articulate than I am, you are an English speaker after all, but I doubt you can write a complex blockchain software. I don't do day to day programming in the last 10 years. I have never worked on any crypto project nor I ever will (I am only the supporter of the great idea of Satoshi and super intelligent developers like gmaxwell and I have no plan to work on any crypto software), but based on what I have seen from you I predict, if I want, I can write a better software than you any time.

So I am sorry TPTB_need_war, you can bullshit (and I don't mean you mislead them, you are just delusional) these poor greedy souls about your infinite programming skills, but I am pretty sure that your marketing talk about your infinite software development skills and your actual ability are out of sync. You are very smart, very articulate which attributes indicate a very intelligent individual, you have lots of experience in technology and some in business, so of course you are better than the children who release all kind of shambles in this crypto screen including CfB the IOTA wanker who released 12 poorly written Java files in exchange for the $500K of the idiots who invested in IOTA, or I could say many other developers in this place who scam the idiots with not even mediocre software, but I am sure you would agree that the measure of skill is not to be better than these wankers are.

So I am sorry, even if you wanted I would never write software with you. If I write software then I deliver - you don't, therefore you are not a compatible associate to anyone who want to create a solution that addresses business or social use cases.  



(The rest of your post is pretty much accurate and spot on. Yes, I hoped you will work with the GadgetCoin developers because they were struggling at the time, but it seems they have got their acts together and what you display here indicates anyway that you wouldn't be an asset to an ethical team. I am still friendly to you because you made valid and good points in many interesting topics, I understand you have a lot more good bone in your body than bad ones, it seems you are a very nice guy when you have a good mood, when your head is clear you contribute a lot to the crypto currency idea, but in the meantime you are building/maintaining relationship with scammers, you are forgiving and understanding with blatant scams like IOTA, LISK, etc., by saying that there is nothing wrong with them, it is part of the game what they do, which is very disappointing and pissing me off, and such disappointment results in posts like what I wrote here yesterday. Your most encouraging comment was lately saying that the ethics and moral are very important, and unethical people, scammers will have to deal with the consequences of their act. I hope you are serious about that and you will remember that when you deal with the actual scammers).

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April 04, 2016, 10:00:07 AM
Why would I? Do you have programming skill I need?

In case you have read my comments about software, I know you understand very well that I am a very-very experienced computer programmer, even that my daytime job is not computer programming in the last 10 years (which of course you don't know and I am just telling it). So - in case you have read my comments about software - you are obviously provoking me. Never mind, lets start this who is the biggest dick competition. Though knowing who is my opponent it will be an uphill task to win such contest.

Yes, I have programming skills, most likely more than you will ever have. Of course I need to be careful with such statement and I would never make such in a professional environment, but since this is the who is the biggest dick competition (which you have started)  in the most notorious forum of the internet, I can incorporate trollish remarks in my post.

I saw very little from your codes, but what I saw indicates we are not in the same league terms in writing software. You are clearly not as good as you think you are. The matter of fact is, I am skeptical you can write any complex code which actually works. The issue is, I think you are a bit delusional about your own abilities, most likely about business as well. I will explain what makes me think this. You are making frequent comments about UI design and how skilled UI developer you are. In the meantime, your 1997 theme web site that promotes your previous (last?) software is still online, in fact you frequently quote that link during your debates. Now, any non-delusional software developer would understand how tragicomical is to claim great UI design skill and in the meantime display a fucking 1997 design theme on your website. Any computer programmer with having basic professional pride would redesigned that web site a very long time ago, the rational ones did it in 1999 if that late at all. You have not, in the meantime you lecture fellow software engineers in 24/7 about software design.
Of course you are more articulate than I am, you are an English speaker after all, but I doubt you can write a complex blockchain software. I don't do day to day programming in the last 10 years. I have never worked on any crypto project nor I ever will (I am only the supporter of the great idea of Satoshi and super intelligent developers like gmaxwell and I have no plan to work on any crypto software), but based on what I have seen from you I predict, if I want, I can write a better software than you any time.

So I am sorry TPTB_need_war, you can bullshit (and I don't mean you mislead them, you are just delusional) these poor greedy souls about your infinite programming skills, but I am pretty sure that your marketing talk about your infinite software development skills and your actual ability are out of sync. You are very smart, very articulate which attributes indicate a very intelligent individual, you have lots of experience in technology and some in business, so of course you are better than the children who release all kind of shambles in this crypto screen including CfB the IOTA wanker who released 12 poorly written Java files in exchange for the $500K of the idiots who invested in IOTA, or I could say many other developers in this place who scam the idiots with not even mediocre software, but I am sure you would agree that the measure of skill is not to be better than these wankers are.

So I am sorry, even if you wanted I would never write software with you. If I write software then I deliver - you don't, therefore you are not a compatible associate to anyone who want to create a solution that addresses business or social use cases.  



(The rest of your post is pretty much accurate and spot on. Yes, I hoped you will work with the GadgetCoin developers because they were struggling at the time, but it seems they have got their acts together and what you display here indicates anyway that you wouldn't be an asset to an ethical team. I am still friendly to you because you made valid and good points in many interesting topics, I understand you have a lot more good bone in your body than bad ones, it seems you are a very nice guy when you have a good mood, when your head is clear you contribute a lot to the crypto currency idea, but in the meantime you are building/maintaining relationship with scammers, you are forgiving and understanding with blatant scams like IOTA, LISK, etc., by saying that there is nothing wrong with them, it is part of the game what they do, which is very disappointing and pissing me off, and such disappointment results in posts like what I wrote here yesterday. Your most encouraging comment was lately saying that the ethics and moral are very important, and unethical people, scammers will have to deal with the consequences of their act. I hope you are serious about that and you will remember that when you deal with the actual scammers).


This is priceless guys! Cool
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April 04, 2016, 08:57:19 AM
Not updating that website has no relationship to my coding skills. For you to make such a statement indicates you jump to irrational assessment based on insufficient data.

And of course I never said it has. This is just your usual bullshitting. I said, it indicates how tragicomical is, and how delusional you are having such website and in the meantime you lecture other software engineers in 24/7 about UI design. Of course you deleted my post in order to keep bullshitting.

The rest about your skills and accomplishments are irrelevant. And of course I saw your few Github files a long time ago - that indicates nothing special at all. Additionally, when a 51 years old software professional quotes his minuscular CSS standard contribution as a major accomplishment then that says all about you. Now, it is clear, all your talk and contribution is just to build up & market a professional profile for the next P&D. Your P&D is coming - after all you promised a P&D to your "angel investors" don't you - , that's why you promote your skills.

Good luck to you as well, you will need it.

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April 04, 2016, 08:34:54 AM
Why would I? Do you have programming skill I need?

In case you have read my comments about software, I know you understand very well that I am a very-very experienced computer programmer, even that my daytime job is not computer programming in the last 10 years (which of course you don't know and I am just telling it). So - in case you have read my comments about software - you are obviously provoking me. Never mind, lets start this who is the biggest dick competition. Though knowing who is my opponent it will be an uphill task to win such contest.

Yes, I have programming skills, most likely more than you will ever have. Of course I need to be careful with such statement and I would never make such in a professional environment, but since this is the who is the biggest dick competition (which you have started)  in the most notorious forum of the internet, I can incorporate trollish remarks in my post.

I saw very little from your codes, but what I saw indicates we are not in the same league terms in writing software. You are clearly not as good as you think you are. The matter of fact is, I am skeptical you can write any complex code which actually works. The issue is, I think you are a bit delusional about your own abilities, most likely about business as well. I will explain what makes me think this. You are making frequent comments about UI design and how skilled UI developer you are. In the meantime, your 1997 theme web site that promotes your previous (last?) software is still online, in fact you frequently quote that link during your debates. Now, any non-delusional software developer would understand how tragicomical is to claim great UI design skill and in the meantime display a fucking 1997 design theme on your website. Any computer programmer with having basic professional pride would redesigned that web site a very long time ago, the rational ones did it in 1999 if that late at all. You have not, in the meantime you lecture fellow software engineers in 24/7 about software design.
Of course you are more articulate than I am, you are an English speaker after all, but I doubt you can write a complex blockchain software. I don't do day to day programming in the last 10 years. I have never worked on any crypto project nor I ever will (I am only the supporter of the great idea of Satoshi and super intelligent developers like gmaxwell and I have no plan to work on any crypto software), but based on what I have seen from you I predict, if I want, I can write a better software than you any time.

So I am sorry TPTB_need_war, you can bullshit (and I don't mean you mislead them, you are just delusional) these poor greedy souls about your infinite programming skills, but I am pretty sure that your marketing talk about your infinite software development skills and your actual ability are out of sync. You are very smart, very articulate which attributes indicate a very intelligent individual, you have lots of experience in technology and some in business, so of course you are better than the children who release all kind of shambles in this crypto screen including CfB the IOTA wanker who released 12 poorly written Java files in exchange for the $500K of the idiots who invested in IOTA, or I could say many other developers in this place who scam the idiots with not even mediocre software, but I am sure you would agree that the measure of skill is not to be better than these wankers are.

So I am sorry, even if you wanted I would never write software with you. If I write software then I deliver - you don't, therefore you are not a compatible associate to anyone who want to create a solution that addresses business or social use cases.  



(The rest of your post is pretty much accurate and spot on. Yes, I hoped you will work with the GadgetCoin developers because they were struggling at the time, but it seems they have got their acts together and what you display here indicates anyway that you wouldn't be an asset to an ethical team. I am still friendly to you because you made valid and good points in many interesting topics, I understand you have a lot more good bone in your body than bad ones, it seems you are a very nice guy when you have a good mood, when your head is clear you contribute a lot to the crypto currency idea, but in the meantime you are building/maintaining relationship with scammers, you are forgiving and understanding with blatant scams like IOTA, LISK, etc., by saying that there is nothing wrong with them, it is part of the game what they do, which is very disappointing and pissing me off, and such disappointment results in posts like what I wrote here yesterday. Your most encouraging comment was lately saying that the ethics and moral are very important, and unethical people, scammers will have to deal with the consequences of their act. I hope you are serious about that and you will remember that when you deal with the actual scammers).
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April 04, 2016, 08:16:40 AM
This masterpiece is worth to be quoted there. Reading it made my day. Not often we can see two crazy dudes talking to each other, it's like Batman vs Superman.

Why would I? Do you have programming skill I need?

In case you have read my comments about software, I know you understand very well that I am a very-very experienced computer programmer, even that my daytime job is not computer programming in the last 10 years (which of course you don't know and I am just telling it). So - in case you have read my comments about software - you are obviously provoking me. Never mind, lets start this who is the biggest dick competition. Though knowing who is my opponent it will be an uphill task to win such contest.

Yes, I have programming skills, most likely more than you will ever have. Of course I need to be careful with such statement and I would never make such in a professional environment, but since this is the who is the biggest dick competition (which you have started)  in the most notorious forum of the internet, I can incorporate trollish remarks in my post.

I saw very little from your codes, but what I saw indicates we are not in the same league terms in writing software. You are clearly not as good as you think you are. The matter of fact is, I am skeptical you can write any complex code which actually works. The issue is, I think you are a bit delusional about your own abilities, most likely about business as well. I will explain what makes me think this. You are making frequent comments about UI design and how skilled UI developer you are. In the meantime, your 1997 theme web site that promotes your previous (last?) software is still online, in fact you frequently quote that link during your debates. Now, any non-delusional software developer would understand how tragicomical is to claim great UI design skill and in the meantime display a fucking 1997 design theme on your website. Any computer programmer with having basic professional pride would redesigned that web site a very long time ago, the rational ones did it in 1999 if that late at all. You have not, in the meantime you lecture fellow software engineers in 24/7 about software design.
Of course you are more articulate than I am, you are an English speaker after all, but I doubt you can write a complex blockchain software. I don't do day to day programming in the last 10 years. I have never worked on any crypto project nor I ever will (I am only the supporter of the great idea of Satoshi and super intelligent developers like gmaxwell and I have no plan to work on any crypto software), but based on what I have seen from you I predict, if I want, I can write a better software than you any time.

So I am sorry TPTB_need_war, you can bullshit (and I don't mean you mislead them, you are just delusional) these poor greedy souls about your infinite programming skills, but I am pretty sure that your marketing talk about your infinite software development skills and your actual ability are out of sync. You are very smart, very articulate which attributes indicate a very intelligent individual, you have lots of experience in technology and some in business, so of course you are better than the children who release all kind of shambles in this crypto screen including CfB the IOTA wanker who released 12 poorly written Java files in exchange for the $500K of the idiots who invested in IOTA, or I could say many other developers in this place who scam the idiots with not even mediocre software, but I am sure you would agree that the measure of skill is not to be better than these wankers are.

So I am sorry, even if you wanted I would never write software with you. If I write software then I deliver - you don't, therefore you are not a compatible associate to anyone who want to create a solution that addresses business or social use cases.  



(The rest of your post is pretty much accurate and spot on. Yes, I hoped you will work with the GadgetCoin developers because they were struggling at the time, but it seems they have got their acts together and what you display here indicates anyway that you wouldn't be an asset to an ethical team. I am still friendly to you because you made valid and good points in many interesting topics, I understand you have a lot more good bone in your body than bad ones, it seems you are a very nice guy when you have a good mood, when your head is clear you contribute a lot to the crypto currency idea, but in the meantime you are building/maintaining relationship with scammers, you are forgiving and understanding with blatant scams like IOTA, LISK, etc., by saying that there is nothing wrong with them, it is part of the game what they do, which is very disappointing and pissing me off, and such disappointment results in posts like what I wrote here yesterday. Your most encouraging comment was lately saying that the ethics and moral are very important, and unethical people, scammers will have to deal with the consequences of their act. I hope you are serious about that and you will remember that when you deal with the actual scammers).
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April 03, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
First of all, rules are rules. Every country has its own rules. However, let's play an assumption game. Assuming a coin uses your rules instead of IOTA's rules. Even a person comes very late and has a perfect reason and can prove it, you still don't have to keep the coins for this person. You can refund the btc to this person.
Yes, refunding btc would be better than the current IOTA policy of keeping the bitcoins and absorbing the IOTA. Does anybody think otherwise?

Again, that is your own rule. I am not talking about IOTA's rules. You are free to speak out your thoughts.

What a surprise! The usual shills and sockpuppets "support" the decision of the scammers.
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April 03, 2016, 06:16:42 PM

In the terms everyone agreed to when participating in the crowdsale they had 90 days to collect. We set this limit because 3 months is more than enough for anyone with a genuine interest in IOTA to claim them. We gave an extension of 1 week for a couple of late claimers. If someone has not shown an iota of interest in IOTA for 3 months straight, they frankly don't deserve it or need it.

The iotas are going towards the project, no freeze.

You show your true color you fucking piece of shit. So an individual who must deal with issues such as accident (which could happen to anyone) and unable to claim the token "don't deserve it". You just don't have the ethic nor the experience you piece of shit to implement adequate business procedures to handle this common issue.

You are demonstrating day by day what a piece of shit and scammer you are. No wonder, while other young professionals get a daytime job, the day time job of yours is to scam money from the noobs, naives and idiots.
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April 03, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
11'355'541.999999999


Thats an huge sum, i think they must be freezed for at least 1 year.

is not a good idea to add them to the foundation to soon.

If they are freezed is the same thing and if some one is in late ( for family or health problem) can reedem the IOTA. also after the deadline.

Please iotatoken think about that



In the terms everyone agreed to when participating in the crowdsale they had 90 days to collect. We set this limit because 3 months is more than enough for anyone with a genuine interest in IOTA to claim them. We gave an extension of 1 week for a couple of late claimers. If someone has not shown an iota of interest in IOTA for 3 months straight, they frankly don't deserve it or need it.

The iotas are going towards the project, no freeze.

David boy, you fucking piece of shit scammer. That's why honest Crypto projects and honest developers are having difficulties in selling blockchain based solutions to real world clients, because wankers like this IOTA scammer brings bad name to crypto. They are unable to implement a simple business procedure to solve such basic matter of fairly and ethically handling the unclaimed investment.

The greedy idiots who gave money to these Belarusian and Norwegian scammers deserve what they get. Likewise, the scammers will deserve the jail time for this blatant IOTA scam.
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April 03, 2016, 02:00:46 PM
Man, it must take a whole lot of energy to do this day in and day out - especially when you realize that you are reaching almost no one. Most people who posted in this thread bought into the ICO anyway.

I suppose just being redundant and reaching no one will not stop you - I guess best of luck. This thread failed completely.


They deleted my post...

Not "they", me. Because of "steal" in your post.

PS: I see no proper reaction to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14406828, if you won't react noone will believe you weren't trolling.

Ok I can see. When anybody deletes my posts in moderated threads I always try to republish them elsewhere.

I will just repeat my opinion and this is my last post on this:  what you are planning to do is wrong. You have 2 possibilities: either people receive their coins (now or later) or they receive btc refunds. First option is surely better.

But you cannot behave like their money was yours. Maybe they have made a mistake but you can easily correct their mistake. Instead, you want to punish them and profit from their loss. Such a history can harm future adoption of iota

He can. A lowlife Belarusian scammer who took money from the naives, noobs and idiots of course can.

Don't you realize these IOTA funders and their shills are fucking scammers?

They lied about JINN. Review this thread and you will understand why JINN is a nonsense and lie. They lied about IoT. Review this thread and you will see my posts about the IoT lies of these wankers. They of course lied about the Microsoft Azure "partnership": by now even the most retarded IOTA idiot realized that I was absolutely correct when following the "partnership" announcement (10 minutes after that) pointed out that there is no partnership, any coin can sign-up, it is a sign-up process, nothing more.

Isn't it clear by now IOTA is a classic scam, a P&D operation with an army and sockpuppets and shills take your money?

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April 03, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
They deleted my post...

Not "they", me. Because of "steal" in your post.

PS: I see no proper reaction to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14406828, if you won't react noone will believe you weren't trolling.

Ok I can see. When anybody deletes my posts in moderated threads I always try to republish them elsewhere.

I will just repeat my opinion and this is my last post on this:  what you are planning to do is wrong. You have 2 possibilities: either people receive their coins (now or later) or they receive btc refunds. First option is surely better.

But you cannot behave like their money was yours. Maybe they have made a mistake but you can easily correct their mistake. Instead, you want to punish them and profit from their loss. Such a history can harm future adoption of iota

He can. A lowlife Belarusian scammer who took money from the naives, noobs and idiots of course can.

Don't you realize these IOTA funders and their shills are fucking scammers?

They lied about JINN. Review this thread and you will understand why JINN is a nonsense and lie. They lied about IoT. Review this thread and you will see my posts about the IoT lies of these wankers. They of course lied about the Microsoft Azure "partnership": by now even the most retarded IOTA idiot realized that I was absolutely correct when following the "partnership" announcement (10 minutes after that) pointed out that there is no partnership, any coin can sign-up, it is a sign-up process, nothing more.

Isn't it clear by now IOTA is a classic scam, a P&D operation with an army of sockpuppets and shills to take your money?
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April 03, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
You have 2 possibilities: either people receive their coins (now or later) or they receive btc refunds.
Which of the two to choose if they never turn up?
If they were hit by a bus would you just send btc to the address they used for the ico?
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April 03, 2016, 08:02:41 AM
Ok I can see. When anybody deletes my posts in moderated threads I always try to republish them elsewhere.

I will just repeat my opinion and this is my last post on this:  what you are planning to do is wrong. You have 2 possibilities: either people receive their coins (now or later) or they receive btc refunds. First option is surely better.

But you cannot behave like their money was yours. Maybe they have made a mistake but you can easily correct their mistake. Instead, you want to punish them and profit from their loss. Such a history can harm future adoption of iota

I don't decide these things, standard European laws are applied.
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