[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 144.

klee

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Quote from: EskimoBob on October 28, 2013, 04:26:42 PM

klee, as anonymous as any retard in this forum, how confused are you about databases and what is used and where? Never mind, this is a rhetorical question.
If those clowns are going for Oracle... pff. good luck and thank you for a early warning. You sure know how to piss yor investors money away.
Have a nice ride to...

ex-trader accountants do not evaluate "business models". You probably meant "business plan" with shiny predictions for future income (aka fiction)

Indulge me!
Whats your experience dude? Ever worked in something as big as NeoBee might be?

Or hacking alone in your bedroom all day? Ever worked in a real company?? With people? You know...

klee

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Everyone has an opinion & an asshole!

For the assholes:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5975907/postgresql-vs-oracle

Whoever has used postgresql support in a big system with real pressure from many angry clients please raise hands!
The same for Oracle.

Well???

I bet the assholes upthread have worked in big companies/software houses with freaking pressure on their backs.

I have not used postgresql but I can tell you the one and only moto in big companies:

We pay for the support and not for the application!

Go use Linux and open source.

Don't get me wrong - they are great and I love them. I hate Microsoft and I have recently (after 10 years being a mac user) have been an Apple hater too.

But open source is not always the best solution.

I am out.

PS: Ytterbium & Pancake I hope Labcoin is a better investment than this lol

ex-trader

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Quote from: EskimoBob on October 28, 2013, 04:26:42 PM

klee, as anonymous as any retard in this forum, how confused are you about databases and what is used and where? Never mind, this is a rhetorical question.
If those clowns are going for Oracle... pff. good luck and thank you for a early warning. You sure know how to piss yor investors money away.
Have a nice ride to...

ex-trader accountants do not evaluate "business models". You probably meant "business plan" with shiny predictions for future income (aka fiction)

I actually meant the business model ie where is the customers money invested and what happens if BTC falls a lot....

San1ty

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Quote from: EskimoBob on October 28, 2013, 04:26:42 PM

klee, as anonymous as any retard in this forum, how confused are you about databases and what is used and where? Never mind, this is a rhetorical question.
If those clowns are going for Oracle... pff. good luck and thank you for a early warning. You sure know how to piss yor investors money away.
Have a nice ride to...

ex-trader accountants do not evaluate "business models". You probably meant "business plan" with shiny predictions for future income (aka fiction)

Why are you so opposed to oracle? What other big recurring costs do they have besides guaranteeing their customer data is safe?.

EskimoBob

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Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank

klee, as anonymous as any retard in this forum, how confused are you about databases and what is used and where? Never mind, this is a rhetorical question.
If those clowns are going for Oracle... pff. good luck and thank you for a early warning. You sure know how to piss yor investors money away.
Have a nice ride to...

ex-trader accountants do not evaluate "business models". You probably meant "business plan" with shiny predictions for future income (aka fiction)

ex-trader

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Well personally I'd be more impressed when they have:

- Got the websites URLs that they need to use
- Got approval from the authorities to take peoples money
- Got some proper sign-off from professionals/accountants for their business model

Right now I see a company thats done a good cash-raise burning through it fast with a lot of staff and infrastructure, but no customers yet - I guess thats the real gamble........

San1ty

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Wow, this klee guy is retarded... Earned a spot on the ignore list.

The other guys are pretty much spot on about their database remark, the opensource alternatives are just as good and have professional paid support.
Anyway I understand why they opted to go for Oracle as database software, it's expensive but pretty good, also it's a little easier to find a suitable oracle developer.

So please everyone stop behaving like you know anything about this stuff...

-A full-time DBA

klee

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No answer eh?
Typical ANONYMOUS troll - what a surprise! Back to my ignore list...

klee

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Yes, since you are a developer yet have no idea how software support work for things like Postgres, you are a developer idiot. It's sad that even jokes have to be explained to you.

No one laughed I assure you.

I bet you know because you are a developer genius - you did not tell as where you have worked though.

And your experience in support...

klee

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: klee on October 28, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

I have worked as a developer idiot

I don't doubt it.

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's not a surprise that any big company has some Oracle somewhere. So?

Quote from: klee on October 28, 2013, 03:32:28 PM

Are you retarded or what? WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA DO THE SUPPORT IDIOT???
The open source community?

What a clown...

You have no idea how the software industry work, do you? Hint: http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/
Before calling someone "retarded", perhaps check how stuff work.
And before you start making even more of a fool of yourself: I have worked with Oracle. Did you?

TROLLING then

klee

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Quote from: ?? on ??

It's not a surprise that any big company has some Oracle somewhere. So?

Quote from: klee on October 28, 2013, 03:32:28 PM

Are you retarded or what? WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA DO THE SUPPORT IDIOT???
The open source community?

What a clown...

You have no idea how the software industry work, do you? Hint: http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/
Before calling someone "retarded", perhaps check how stuff work.

Another troll - welcome!

I have worked as a developer idiot here:
compucon.gr (4 years)

and here:
http://www.intracom-telecom.com/index.htm (6 years)

You?

klee

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Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:59:26 PM

Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 01:49:34 PM

Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

Marketing and promotion.

Marketing of what? Their own cluelessness? Why not just download PostgreSQL and spend $47k on advertising? Caixa Econômica Federal is the second largest bank in Brazil and uses Postgres.

If I were a shareholder I'd be pretty pissed about them throwing money away like this. I'd much rather my my investment money go towards building the actual company, not buying more fighter jets and Hawaiian islands for Larry Ellison.

Are you retarded or what? WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA DO THE SUPPORT IDIOT???
The open source community?

What a clown...

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Quality over quantity we are talking about an exchange that will likely be dealing with a lot of money after all
Denominated in BTC

canth

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Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:59:26 PM

Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 01:49:34 PM

Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

Marketing and promotion.

Marketing of what? Their own cluelessness? Why not just download PostgreSQL and spend $47k on advertising? Caixa Econômica Federal is the second largest bank in Brazil and uses Postgres.

If I were a shareholder I'd be pretty pissed about them throwing money away like this. I'd much rather my my investment money go towards building the actual company, not buying more fighter jets and Hawaiian islands for Larry Ellison.

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/oracle-fact-sheet-079219.pdf

ORACLE CUSTOMERS INCLUDE
•   20 of the 20 top airlines
•   20 of the 20 top
automotive companies
•   20 of the 20 top banks
•   20 of the 20 top governments
•   20 of the 20 top
high tech companies
•   20 of the 20 top insurers
•   20 of the 20 top manufacturers
•   20 of the 20 top oil and
gas companies
•   20 of the 20 top pharmas
•   20 of the 20 top retailers
•   10 of the 10 top SaaS providers
•   20 of the 20 top telcos
•   20 of the 20 top utilities

So, all of these clueless companies with clueless CEOs just choose to waste their money on overpriced crap because it gives Larry Ellison more money to buy stuff?

Yeah, it's expensive but if you can cut your development time by using expertise and off-the shelf integrations, then the cost can be worth it.

Vedran Yoweri

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Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 02:15:20 PM

Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 02:03:56 PM

You aren't even a shareholder? What are you doing here then?

Saw a link about them potentially opening a new exchange.

Beter read up then. If they would have used PostgreSQL I would have sold immediately.

Ytterbium

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Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 02:03:56 PM

You aren't even a shareholder? What are you doing here then?

Saw a link about them potentially opening a new exchange.

pedrog

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Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:59:26 PM

Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 01:49:34 PM

Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

Marketing and promotion.

Marketing of what? Their own cluelessness? Why not just download PostgreSQL and spend $47k on advertising? Caixa Econômica Federal is the second largest bank in Brazil and uses Postgres.

If I were a shareholder I'd be pretty pissed about them throwing money away like this. I'd much rather my my investment money go towards building the actual company, not buying more fighter jets and Hawaiian islands for Larry Ellison.

You aren't even a shareholder? What are you doing here then?

Ytterbium

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Quote from: pedrog on October 28, 2013, 01:49:34 PM

Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

Marketing and promotion.

Marketing of what? Their own cluelessness? Why not just download PostgreSQL and spend $47k on advertising? Caixa Econômica Federal is the second largest bank in Brazil and uses Postgres.

If I were a shareholder I'd be pretty pissed about them throwing money away like this. I'd much rather my my investment money go towards building the actual company, not buying more fighter jets and Hawaiian islands for Larry Ellison.

pedrog

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Quote from: Ytterbium on October 28, 2013, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

Marketing and promotion.

Ytterbium

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on October 25, 2013, 03:41:07 PM

Oracle
Our systems are being developed using Oracle Database 12c Enterprise Edition, I believe we are the first company in Cyprus to utilize this new product. Oracle provide solutions for the largest organizations in the world. Our development team are now official Oracle partners.
Oracle will provide us with some great exposure on an international scale, they will be promoting the fact that Neo & Bee are powered by Oracle, this includes articles in their publications and a success story being published surrounding Neo & Bee.

Oracle? Really? Why would you waste shareholder money on overpriced crap? Because it has "Enterprise" in the name?

B.T.W, according to this a license for Oracle enterprise edition is $47,000, per CPU. I can't imagine you would actually pay that much when open source alternatives cost nothing and are just as scaleable and reliable.

As far as I can tell, the only reason to buy Oracle is because you already have a bunch of Legacy oracle code and it's cheaper to keep buying it as opposed to re-engineering all your existing code. But why would you start a new project using Oracle as a base? It seems like a pretty bizarre choice.

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