Topic: Iran and Russia want to issue new stablecoin backed by gold - page 3. (Read 1033 times)

Interesting news from the field of "friendly relations". Now Iran will understand what it means to be "friends with Russia"

While you are indulging yourself with fairy tales that two terrorist regimes can create something, for some reason the "darlings are fighting"
A diplomatic scandal has erupted between Russia and Iran over islands in the Persian Gulf. Tehran demanded that Moscow reconsider its position on the ownership of the islands in the Strait of Hormuz claimed by Iran and the UAE. According to Iran International, Moscow, following a strategic dialog with the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf, supported the UAE's initiative to hold talks on the Abu Musa, Greater Tunb and Lesser Tunb islands. Iran considers them its integral part and refuses to dialog.

Why is Iran squealing at Russia over some foreign islands that are ancestral to the UAE?
It seems that not only currency will not be and strong marriage of terrorist regimes will not happen
Russia needs to "sit on its ass":
- licking and pleasing Iran to get drones for terrorist acts in Ukraine.
- to please UAE to try to manipulate the oil market.

So far the interest in oil is higher, "wipes his feet on Iran", by pleasing UAE

PS "Foreign Ministry diplomats should not think that this episode will end with the summoning of the Russian ambassador. We need to thoroughly review our political relations with Russia and make Russian statesmen regret their betrayal of the Iranian people," the conservative Jomhouri Islami newspaper said in an editorial statement. The publication was formed after the 1979 revolution, with current Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as its director general, and until now the newspaper's publishers have been appointed directly by the ayatollah.

I don't understand what the problem is. You can destroy terrorists by any available methods and means. But to support terrorists is to be on their side. And this will be punished !
Regarding "bloodthirsty invaders such as the US in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq" is a lie ! Those were civil conflicts where the local population asked the US to protect the Afghan-speaking, Syrian-speaking, and Iraqi-speaking populations from the Kabul, Damascus, and Baghdad juntas.
In fact, do you have any proof that it was the U.S.? You can buy U.S. uniforms and weapons at any store. I am sure that it was just ordinary citizens of the above mentioned countries who rebelled, and you are trying to deceive everyone. Do you have proof? Please? I read one world politician and expert - he said it was a civil conflict and US was not there ! 

Months ago when I said that there were very few who were saying it, today even the Americans are saying the same thing Even the US senators are saying "this is the best money they've spent and they will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian". Whether you admit it or not this has always been a fight between Russia and NATO or more specifically US dictating NATO aggression.

Why aren't you ever talking about the Iranian weapons used by Armed Forces of Ukraine? Oh, I know it doesn't go with the ongoing propaganda. Here is one example showing Iranian made Fadak anti-armor rockets used by Ukraine's Mi-17 helicopters.




The fact is that Iran as one of the most advanced arms manufacturers have sold many defensive weapons to many countries including Europeans. Many of these weapons are resold to third parties like Ukraine and Russia.

P.S. Those living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Next time you wanted to accuse others of selling weapons to Russia first think about Ukraine's cooperation with bloodthirsty invaders such as US in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq over the past two decades or the large amount of arms Ukraine sold others like Saudi dictatorship regime to help their genocide in Yemen. To this day the carcass of Ukrainian Practika made armored vehicles like Kozak-5 can be found in Yemen as a reminder of the Ukraine's help in the genocide.

Russia is suffering a military defeat in Ukraine, and in order to somehow mitigate such a shame for itself, they began to say that it is at war with NATO. But she is at war with the Ukrainians, who use the military assistance provided by NATO countries to Ukraine. In my opinion, it's not the same thing. And the Russian flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the Moskva cruiser, was sunk by the Armed Forces of Ukraine with two Ukrainian-made Neptune missiles. And what does the NATO countries have to do with it then?

Iran is not involved in Russia's war against Ukraine? Almost every day on the territory of Ukraine, Russia launches Iranian-made drones and Iran is not involved in this? In Tehran, it is justified by the fact that long before the war they handed over to Russia a small batch of drones. But hundreds, if not thousands, of them have already been launched across Ukraine, and transport planes from Iran regularly fly to Moscow. Recently, these drones have been transported by sea.

It seems that Iran has decided to catch up with Russia, its partner in terrorism, in terms of world contempt and sanctions
Iran secretly supplied Russia with at least 18 Mojaher-6, Shahed-191 and Shahed-129 attack drones after Russian officials visited the country last November. Unlike the Shahed-131/136 kamikaze drones, these drones are used to launch missile strikes at ground targets and then return to base.

This is how I understand this "sweet couple", and they will go to the bottom together. I'm sure even North Korea looks at them and thinks "What idiots!?"
Although Iran has better prospects - the people will simply overthrow the anti-human regime and live a wonderful life! And Russia and Russians will bear responsibility for crimes against humanity for many generations to come (I am talking about all their crimes, not only for Ukraine)




1. Screams that "Russia is at war with NATO in Ukraine" appeared on the lips of Moscow propagandists after the Russian group was defeated by the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkov region. The cowardly and vile regime had to urgently find a "logical" explanation of how the "second army of the world" of the world lost to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, about which Russian propaganda wrote back in March 2022 that Russia had completely destroyed them! Recognize the truth??? Noo! For the Russian authorities, the truth is that incense is for devils Therefore, a new narrative "we are at war with NATO" was thrown in the media ...
2. Concerning Iran. The list of terrorists, sponsors of the main terrorist is actually longer. Over the past half a year, Russia has straightened out at least some weapons on its knees and received in one volume or another:
- Iran: UAVs/kamikaze drones
- North Korea: shells for artillery systems and rocket launchers such as hail
- Laos: they managed to beg tanks from them .. T-34! I'm sure Laos is joking so thinly over Russia
- Belarus: Shells for artillery, cartridges for small arms
- China sewed them clothes and supposedly bulletproof vests. But apparently it was produced in factories of the 70s and with the help of sledgehammers and saws from improvised means

You should do some research before saying random stuff like this
Iran used to have a dictatorship before 1979. A dictatorship that was backed by United States. Then there was a revolution that ended that US back dictatorship in February 1979 and replaced it by the Islamic Republic which is a democracy with "free elections".

By complete accident 2 Zionist terrorist officers were also eliminated this week in occupied Palestine and by pure chance they were both involved in the organization's drone program

Russia is not at war with NATO, but lately Russian propagandists have been persistently pushing this topic, since Ukraine has already practically defeated their regular army that invaded its territory. It is a shame for Russia to admit this, and admitting that it is being defeated by the entire NATO military bloc is not so scary for it. NATO countries provide Ukraine with all possible material, financial and military assistance, but there are no NATO troops in Ukraine.

On the other hand, at the request of Russia, Iran is selling kamikaze drones to it, and there was also an agreement to supply Russia with ballistic missiles for the war in Ukraine.

In addition, the British newspaper The Guardian reports, citing its sources in Iran, that Tehran sent a batch of long-range combat drones to Russia last year with the help of ships and aircraft of the Iranian state airline. According to the publication, this is not about Shahed kamikaze drones, which Russia uses to attack Ukrainian critical infrastructure, but about more sophisticated unmanned vehicles that allow missile strikes from a long distance.

The publication says that in November 2022, a delegation of 10 Russian officers and engineers visited Tehran, where they were shown all the capabilities of Iran's military technologies. The Russians have chosen six Mujaher-6 drones, which have a range of about 200 kilometers and can carry two missiles under each wing, they have also shown interest in the Shahed-191 and Shahed-129 unmanned vehicles, which are capable of attacking ground targets. Unlike kamikaze drones, such devices must strike and return to base. At the same time, Iran sent a group of 54 engineers to Moscow to help the Russian military master drones.

Therefore, if we talk about the fact that by supplying weapons to Ukraine, NATO is thereby fighting on the side of Ukraine, then we must admit that Iran is fighting on the side of Russia.

I wouldn't say that they are "nowhere", Iran has a dictatorship, and USA is not at works with North Korea neither, and even fought Nazis, which means that USA generally do not like dictatorships, and as long as Iran stays as a dictatorship, and there are no free elections, they will keep on sanctioning Iran, same goes for Cuba and many other places like that.

Not like USA is without shortcomings, sometimes they put their own dictators in place as well, and then work with those to take natural resources out for cheap, but that doesn't change the fact that Iran is not guilty-free, you can see the recent revolution and rebellions as a proof that they are not that good of a government.

What fun to watch you! It feels like information is really bad in Iran, and it seems that Solovyov is broadcasting on Iranian channels 24x7 ))

So, I will bring you back to reality once again, from the delusional dream of Russian propaganda, and your favorite lies
1. The interceptor missile for the Patriot system costs about $4 million per projectile, and the launchers cost about $10 million each. Information - second half of 2022. Expectedly - you're lying, deliberately and primitively
2. Yes, for example, Poland, passing us the MIG31, T72, cartridges 7.62 and so on, the standard of the Soviet army, in return receives more modern weapons. Quite logical. In fact, what difference does it make with what weapon to destroy terrorists, the main thing is that they quickly deservedly go to hell
3. But you somehow bypassed, and deliberately hid the moment - military assistance to Ukraine, more than 90% is provided free of charge. Those. Ukraine, this weapon is NOT FOR SALE. It is being transferred, as part of a technical assistance program, to counter the Kremlin's terrorist regime.
4. But the Iranian terrorist government FOR MONEY sells strike UAVs to its partners in terrorism Do you feel how civilized democratic relations differ from the fuss of the outcasts of the world?

Now you completely lost me, what have they done so far except being terrorists who suppress minorities and free speech? And what is this "everything" you are talking about?

I really don't see a way for them handling this so it would work. Whole idea doesn't make much sense. It was probably an idea from their propaganda team that got way out of hand and released without thinking it trough. And now it's just on a top of a pile of other misinformation to spread confusion.

Something interesting I figured recently was that Europeans are donating their mostly outdated weapons to Ukraine and then buy the replacement mostly from US!

Basically United States economy that has been falling apart was saved temporarily by introducing another Petrodollar (Weapondollar or maybe Armsdollar?) where US starts a proxy war at Europe's doorsteps then forces Europe to donate their weapons to that proxy war and then purchase new weapons at much higher prices than before (eg. Patriot missiles that went for $3-4 million is being sold up to $12 million!) from United States and save US economy this way!!!

It becomes even more interesting when we learn that Petrodollar was also created to f**k Europe when the Europeans decided to dump US dollar when they found out they've been lied to (about it being backed by gold). That dump crashed the failing US economy back then too but it was saved by introducing Petrodollar or better say forcing it on EU and crashing EU economy instead.

Dialogue has gone aside May I have a few simple questions?
1. Please tell me - can you name examples of closed systems, isolated, which are developing qualitatively? No, they don't just exist, but they develop?
2. What kind of gold backing can we talk about if both countries, to put it mildly, are not very honest? Who and how will control the reserves, the real reserves of gold? There is no need to cite the United States as an example - their dollar is backed by politics, the economy, the army, international status and many others. Many others - which Iran and Russia do not and will not have.
3. What kind of gold backing can we talk about if Russia has already begun to sell its gold reserves (gold and yuan) to secure its budget, which now, in January alone, has a budget deficit of almost 40% of the budgeted ANNUAL budget deficit? And the prospects for Russia are getting worse and worse every day. Iran's situation is not much better, although better than in Russia

Now think about these FACTS, and describe your scenario for the development of this "project of Russia and Iran"? Only seriously and logically?

It's obvious that each country is trying to use this war to do it's own business.
The US most likely blew up the Russian gas pipeline to cut Germany off and make them want to help Ukraine to end the conflict faster.
Turkey is trying to punish Sweden by not allowing it to join NATO for its opposition against Turkish operation in Syria.
Poland is sending military support to Ukraine and getting things like Abrams tanks and Patriot missiles in return. It's also using the conflict to build a steel fence at the border with Belarus, Trump style.
In return, Belarus destroyed a Polish WWII memorial and sent soldiers to cut holes in Polish border fence. This is some hobo style retaliation tactic
France was supplying Russian army in the earlier months of the war.

You can see there's no honor in war, it's just a race to make more money and since the West is cutting Russia off they'll have to manage somehow. I expect them to try everything, including cryptocurrency adoption if the war lasts long enough.

I agree that it is something that makes sense for them to build it, but that doesn't change the fact that it will become a trouble to use these stablecoins as well, if you are a company that can't deal with Russia or Iran because you are afraid of the sanctions, you can't start trading with them just because there is a stable coin neither, if it was a wrong thing to do or something you were afraid of doing, it will stay being something that you are afraid of and that won't change, it will be something that you will keep fearing anyway.

That's at least something we should be aware of and that's why this shouldn't be created or even if it was, there shouldn't be much hope for it.

That's different though. Russia is at war with NATO which means such "incidents" are expected. However, Iran is nowhere in this war but they (mainly US) is desperately trying to pull Iran into this war which is why we saw the failed terrorist attack in Isfahan, Iran which out of nowhere Ukraine showed support for!
It won't work though because Iran eliminates threats at the source (US) not the proxy (Ukraine).

This is also one of the reasons why the Western mainstream media keeps lying about Iranian missiles, etc. being used by Russia.

After the success of Tether and stable coin, now there are more and more projects using the stable coin concept, but there are many stable coin projects that fail for various reasons, and if russia and iran officially make a stable coin project, of course it will be a good thing, official guarantee from the country will make users no longer hesitate to store assets in the coin stable.

if you look at what Russia and Iran have done so far, I am as optimistic as you that they will be able to do that, but everything will be returned to them later.
because so far Russia itself is still struggling with regulations that have not been properly resolved regarding the digital market, of course this problem must be resolved and is there no problem in Iran itself? before unifying the perception between them. so the discourse can be done but it still has a long way to go.

I guess that could technically work but that also signals to their people that they wouldn't have any trust on their own national Fiat currencies as they didn't choose cbdc road instead. And i think that they want to their citizens not to worry and believe their own currency is doing just fine.

And obviously they And even though they wouldn't need to comply with western regulations, they would need to comply with their own. And i have hard time believing that Russia and Iran would find any common ground with that.

I'd support such currency if it was launched by other countries.


There were a few similar "accidents" in Russia too. There's even a wiki page for "mystery fires" that attacked Russian buildings in the last 12 months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Russian_mystery_fires

When Moskva blew up the innitial media reports were that "a fire broke out on the ship"

You could theoretically have a stablecoin pegged to oil reserves. Of course, it'd be useless as all other stablecoins are because attempting to verify oil reserves is near impossible. Even in the case of gold, you're still required to entrust the issuer that they have liquidity. If the liquidity doesn't exist, the stablecoin collapses. Iran and Russia's stablecoin would be just as reliable as the Russian and Iranian government. For obvious reasons, they wouldn't be reliable at all because they're some of the most corrupt and unstable governments in the world.