Topic: [irregularities] Mass Network - page 50. (Read 91877 times)
I don't know why but I always thought that it is about project, not any bounties or something like this. But now I understand how wrong I was
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
Not clear - "Alexei Oschepov" or "Alexei Oschepkov" is correct. Its wrong either in article or website. And why the link to LinkedIn profile for Alexei Oschepov on the MassNetwork website gives only an error...
Broken link?
Definitely
. The rest is pretty much clear 
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
Not clear - "Alexei Oschepov" or "Alexei Oschepkov" is correct. Its wrong either in article or website. And why the link to LinkedIn profile for Alexei Oschepov on the MassNetwork website gives only an error...
Broken link?
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
Not clear - "Alexei Oschepov" or "Alexei Oschepkov" is correct. Its wrong either in article or website. And why the link to LinkedIn profile for Alexei Oschepov on the MassNetwork website gives only an error...
Broken link?
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
Not clear - "Alexei Oschepov" or "Alexei Oschepkov" is correct. Its wrong either in article or website. And why the link to LinkedIn profile for Alexei Oschepov on the MassNetwork website gives only an error...
Broken link?
@MASS
Does the level of ICO fund raising affect the roadmap and/or speed of delivery of this project? i.e. If the ICO was to fall below your expectations how would that impact the project?
Does the level of ICO fund raising affect the roadmap and/or speed of delivery of this project? i.e. If the ICO was to fall below your expectations how would that impact the project?
I have (not for sure at 100%) found answer for my questions:
Ico 45% lasted till yesterday: https://blog.mass.network/mass-coin-ico-45-bonus/
there is signature bounty: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16217324
Seems there is now a 25% bonus for the next 2 weeks and 1 day. Ico 45% lasted till yesterday: https://blog.mass.network/mass-coin-ico-45-bonus/
there is signature bounty: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16217324
Hm, so what is the maximum amount of bounties can I recieve if I put the signature, for example, today?
I have (not for sure at 100%) found answer for my questions:
Ico 45% lasted till yesterday: https://blog.mass.network/mass-coin-ico-45-bonus/
there is signature bounty: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16217324
Ico 45% lasted till yesterday: https://blog.mass.network/mass-coin-ico-45-bonus/
there is signature bounty: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16217324
Actually I don't find the bounty infomation, where can we see that, i see the guy above my post wears the signature now.
Signature added !! will follow this thread carefully ! Thank you
Hello,
I am interested in investing here
I have 3short question:
When this ICO will be added to Icocountdown ?
Where can I find any informations about bounties?
What is the level of bonuses in next periods?
Now is 45% and next?
Regards
I am interested in investing here
I have 3short question:
When this ICO will be added to Icocountdown ?
Where can I find any informations about bounties?
What is the level of bonuses in next periods?
Now is 45% and next?
Regards
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
It was published few days ago. At the same, it is not bad, you are right. However, massnetwork, what global planns do you have?
We will publish the detailed roadmap soon. It will consist o two parts. Part 1 aims to present the organizational approach (how development and risk are to be handled at least during the time before the launch of the consumer module). Part 2 aims to describe the city-by-city plan. It is essential trying to achieve critical mass asap (having many installations from both advertisers' and consumers' side in one geo area). Advertising is one of the most CONVENIENT double-sided markets in this respect because it is very "local: in its nature—it exploits web's ability to reach people but still does it mostly locally, just like traditional media. Unlike in the case of payment systems, for example, we can steadily go from one place to another without having to attract a lot of users worldwide.
We have people who are familiar with US, EU and Russian/Ukranian/Kazakh markets. Looking for people in China, India, Indonesia.
Not "position" but regional voting power. Mass is not a corporation. We're finalizing the management framework based on voting block-chain-based tokens. This will be kind of a reasonable, real-world version of a DAO. We suppose that the main ideological failure of the DAO concept as we know it now is in using the full-scale democracy at the infant stage of the management concept itself. It only works after the management system has been through many preliminary stages. For instance, European democracy of the current humanitarian shape it has, it first has gone through the periods of very limited voting rights, later to high-income-taxpayers quotas.
Regionally capable people will receive their managing votes based only on the local competition. Say, Indonesia's quota is 2% (based on global advertising market share). To win part of those 2% votes one has to compete with Indonesian candidates only. Same level candidate who targets a global management quota of 5% dedicated to user interface division will have to compete globally, so having some local expertise is a cool factor to join Mass management and development team.
By the way, guys, today I found this interview http://forklog.net/mass-network-and-online-advertising-transformation/. It is indeed impressive.
Thanks for this answer. It got me much closer to understanding the whole picture.
This sounds especially nice. I see the picture of the future ('brave new world' heh) where ads become of big a value to user, so cheaters are punished by depriving them of ads
Haha. Sounds good J So, if you are anonymous and do a lot of refreshes you will get 5-10 small payments and after that you won't get any ads in your feed.
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in case website detects any cheat attempts (e.g. refreshing pages, autosurfing, etc...), it will stop offering you paid ads.
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in case website detects any cheat attempts (e.g. refreshing pages, autosurfing, etc...), it will stop offering you paid ads.
This sounds especially nice. I see the picture of the future ('brave new world' heh) where ads become of big a value to user, so cheaters are punished by depriving them of ads
However, massnetwork, what global planns do you have?
We will publish the detailed roadmap soon. It will consist o two parts. Part 1 aims to present the organizational approach (how development and risk are to be handled at least during the time before the launch of the consumer module). Part 2 aims to describe the city-by-city plan. It is essential trying to achieve critical mass asap (having many installations from both advertisers' and consumers' side in one geo area). Advertising is one of the most CONVENIENT double-sided markets in this respect because it is very "local: in its nature—it exploits web's ability to reach people but still does it mostly locally, just like traditional media. Unlike in the case of payment systems, for example, we can steadily go from one place to another without having to attract a lot of users worldwide.
We have people who are familiar with US, EU and Russian/Ukranian/Kazakh markets. Looking for people in China, India, Indonesia.
Not "position" but regional voting power. Mass is not a corporation. We're finalizing the management framework based on voting block-chain-based tokens. This will be kind of a reasonable, real-world version of a DAO. We suppose that the main ideological failure of the DAO concept as we know it now is in using the full-scale democracy at the infant stage of the management concept itself. It only works after the management system has been through many preliminary stages. For instance, European democracy of the current humanitarian shape it has, it first has gone through the periods of very limited voting rights, later to high-income-taxpayers quotas.
Regionally capable people will receive their managing votes based only on the local competition. Say, Indonesia's quota is 2% (based on global advertising market share). To win part of those 2% votes one has to compete with Indonesian candidates only. Same level candidate who targets a global management quota of 5% dedicated to user interface division will have to compete globally, so having some local expertise is a cool factor to join Mass management and development team.
Thanks for this answer. It got me much closer to understanding the whole picture.
This sounds especially nice. I see the picture of the future ('brave new world' heh) where ads become of big a value to user, so cheaters are punished by depriving them of ads
So, if you are anonymous and do a lot of refreshes you will get 5-10 small payments and after that you won't get any ads in your feed.
...
in case website detects any cheat attempts (e.g. refreshing pages, autosurfing, etc...), it will stop offering you paid ads.
...
in case website detects any cheat attempts (e.g. refreshing pages, autosurfing, etc...), it will stop offering you paid ads.
This sounds especially nice. I see the picture of the future ('brave new world' heh) where ads become of big a value to user, so cheaters are punished by depriving them of ads
If a user (or his bot) constantly presses "Refresh" on the page (once per 1 sec), to add more views and fill his pockets with MASS, will your browser (or browser extension) filter out such "refresh" attempts..? What if he refreshes the page once per 10 minutes?
Two aspects are to be clarified.
1. User data. When websites buys user profile (or part of it), it gets access to it. This information could be saved and bound to session id or cookies, that's why there are no reasons for website to buy your profile again. So, your user agent won't get new payment on refresh. But it can be paid later, when you upgrade your profile, or you decide to share more details of your profile with website.
2. Most advertisers are interested in buying unique impressions and set limits to 3-5 impressions for one user. That's today's RTB world, where impression price is extremely low! In Mass world impressions cost much more, so one advertiser won't order more impressions for such "refreshing" user. Your payment amount depends on your profile, advertisers won't pay a lot for anonymous profiles. So, if you are anonymous and do a lot of refreshes you will get 5-10 small payments and after that you won't get any ads in your feed.
If you have advanced profile with signed tags, your profile looks to be respectable, you will be paid more for each ad impression. Nevertheless, in case website detects any cheat attempts (e.g. refreshing pages, autosurfing, etc...), it will stop offering you paid ads.
Of course, we know that there will be a lot of fraud attempts, but we expect good profile price to be too expensive for cheaters. It will be very expensive to create Mass bots...
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You write about the conflict of interests between advertisers and internet users, and you make a good point! If you pay people for watching advertisements they will be more interested in watching them (and making money), but the advertiser wouldn't want to pay for such views.
First of all, nowadays banner or any other ads impression costs too few, and most businesses expect bots share to be higher than 30%. We are going to make impression price higher and to give advertiser tools for better ads targeting. Less impressions on the web, less fraud/bots, higher price.
Advertisers won't pay a lot to completely anonymous accounts. Moreover, most advertisers will require your unique Mass user ID to be verified and having one or more signed tags, which will proof something about you. For example, if you are a BMW driver, you will get a signed tag (certificate) about that, and advertisers will pay you for viewing special offers for BMW owners.
We expect millions of tags to be created by Mass partners, and each tag will tell something important about owner. Everyone could create his own tag and give it to other people. For example, "has Bitcointalk Full Member account", "lives in London" or just "likes cats".
If a user (or his bot) constantly presses "Refresh" on the page (once per 1 sec), to add more views and fill his pockets with MASS, will your browser (or browser extension) filter out such "refresh" attempts..? What if he refreshes the page once per 10 minutes?
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