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I hear a saying that what important is now and not the past or the future. Those peeps believe on that and only living the moment. Maybe they don't need a help for now but there will be a time that they will do, once their resources have depleted. That must be the time that they will admit their mistakes.
There Is nothing wrong with living in the moment, and everyone should do that as long as they can afford to do that. And, the affordability should only be checked after the person has done all the necessary stuff they need to do with their finances and the very first one is securing the future.

A person who has a lot of money in the present should make sure that they and their family have a secure future because they have made investments, started businesses, saved money, and have done everything required to make their children's future secure and so that they don't need to face financial problems when they grow old.

If someone has done all that, then they are free to do whatever they want in the present.
It is true that everyone has the right to do what they want now as long as they are able to fulfill their desires, but thinking about the future is certainly a very important thing to do because we don't know for sure whether when we are old we will still be able to do the same work we did when we were young. young or not, so it is important for us to prepare for old age by investing or building a business so that we can get results from both of these things.
I agree with what you say, when someone has prepared for their future of course they have the right to enjoy their wishes at any time and this will not affect the finances they have.
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I hear a saying that what important is now and not the past or the future. Those peeps believe on that and only living the moment. Maybe they don't need a help for now but there will be a time that they will do, once their resources have depleted. That must be the time that they will admit their mistakes.

There Is nothing wrong with living in the moment, and everyone should do that as long as they can afford to do that. And, the affordability should only be checked after the person has done all the necessary stuff they need to do with their finances and the very first one is securing the future.

A person who has a lot of money in the present should make sure that they and their family have a secure future because they have made investments, started businesses, saved money, and have done everything required to make their children's future secure and so that they don't need to face financial problems when they grow old.

If someone has done all that, then they are free to do whatever they want in the present.
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I hear a saying that what important is now and not the past or the future. Those peeps believe on that and only living the moment. Maybe they don't need a help for now but there will be a time that they will do, once their resources have depleted. That must be the time that they will admit their mistakes.

I also heard a saying that we should accept that we are not good enough and there are someone who will always be better than us. They might be correct with that and this is what you are trying to imply here. I think the real ones that you want to give to them right now is advice but this might still help them if their current ways aren't.

that's what is called regret, with those who only think about the present without thinking about the future which must be prepared for, I don't think they will be ready. Many people only think about the present so they spend the money they have on things they really want, such as fulfilling their desires, whether it's gadgets, vehicles or clothes and other accessories that have big brand names and high prices, so they don't thinking about his future.

Giving advice is also not a bad thing if our intention is to help them so that they don't have difficulties in the future because our own future is our own responsibility. Don't ever think that if we spend all the money we have on what we want, it will guarantee our life. Maybe it will make us happy,  but in my opinion it will only be for a short time.
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Irresponsible people like that are everywhere, they live on the now and care nothing about the past or the future, and no matter how many times you try to help them they are never going to listen as they believe themselves to be smarter than you, so let them be and avoid putting yourself on their path of self-destruction, as once their money runs out, instead of changing their ways they try to get someone else to fund the lifestyle they believe they deserve.
I hear a saying that what important is now and not the past or the future. Those peeps believe on that and only living the moment. Maybe they don't need a help for now but there will be a time that they will do, once their resources have depleted. That must be the time that they will admit their mistakes.

I also heard a saying that we should accept that we are not good enough and there are someone who will always be better than us. They might be correct with that and this is what you are trying to imply here. I think the real ones that you want to give to them right now is advice but this might still help them if their current ways aren't.
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Maybe you are wrong to judge the situation that is happening near you, because that is also what often happens we judge someone only from one event and think he is someone like that. Actually it is not wrong when someone wants to enjoy life by buying luxury goods or eating expensive food or a little spree as long as it is not done so on, because sometimes when you buy luxury items that you have been after for a long time can provide better motivation to find income or for those who have retired can feel happier what is important not by debt.

yes, that's right, there's nothing wrong with buying goods or shopping for luxury goods that they really want, it's just that they have to be able to look at their own finances, I mean they have to be able to balance the income they earn, don't let us want luxury but our financial situation unstable, because it will only make us difficult. going on a spree or buying things that we have long dreamed of is the same as appreciating ourselves.

Don't let us want luxury but to fulfill that desire we borrow money to be able to buy what we want, that is not recommended because it will only make things worse even though we can have what we want.
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If someone can manage their spending and savings of course it will be very easy for them to be able to have investments that they can run well, when someone chooses to save and restrain themselves from spending their money of course this is very stupid because they have taken the trouble they suck at making money and they don't enjoy it themselves.

Preparing for emergency needs is of course very important to be able to meet these needs because we ourselves never know when we will need these needs and if we don't have savings that we can use of course it will be very difficult to meet these needs and avoid bank loans for things that It's not necessary, of course it's very good because if we have a bank loan, of course this will make it very difficult for us to pay it off if we don't have income that we can use to pay it.
Indeed, having an emergency fund is very important nowadays because we really don't know what will going to happen in the near future, just like when pandemic strikes us, some people aren't prepared because they are all complacent on what they currently have, without preparing theirselves, so in the end, majority runs out their savings and some of their investment has been sold due to emergency needs.

Of course in any case saving to be used as an emergency fund is an action that must be considered because it does have very important benefits to help overcome some of the problems that come unexpectedly, as you said which a few years ago we were faced with a pandemic situation, there are some people who have a very concerning life because they have never thought of saving before, but there are also some people who remain in a fairly safe situation because they have a habit of saving from far - far away which in the end the good habit really provides significant benefits to help maintain survival.

However, having a long term mindset is a good way to think, because with this, it is more likely that you will prioritize preventive measures such as having a habit of saving money to overcome some problems that come unexpectedly.
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While most of us thinks that there are only addicted gamblers who are reckless spenders, I want to let us know too that there are other reckless spenders who are even Irresponsible to their responsibilities and bringing about devalues to their influential personalities.
If at the time of retirement, he could not manage his pension funds properly then that was also what he had done before retirement, spending his salary for pleasure or exceeding his ability so that it is in debt, my intention is that today you cannot be responsible for your income then that is also actually happened in the past and what will happen in the future, so people will not be able to suddenly be responsible for their income all need a process.

I am not sure of my instincts towards this man but with experiences from people of such nature, they are ones who lavishes their money on pleasures and does not have plans for their futures, they ends up regreting after much expenses when they runs out of funds.
Maybe you are wrong to judge the situation that is happening near you, because that is also what often happens we judge someone only from one event and think he is someone like that. Actually it is not wrong when someone wants to enjoy life by buying luxury goods or eating expensive food or a little spree as long as it is not done so on, because sometimes when you buy luxury items that you have been after for a long time can provide better motivation to find income or for those who have retired can feel happier what is important not by debt.
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There must be balance between your spending and savings. There are people who only used to save money and make there life miserable by not spending on themselves. Life is full of ups and downs, so one must has adequate savings to deal with any emergency like health issues. To avoid going for bank loans or using credit card it's advisable to use your own savings. Those who only enjoy life and have zero savings have a terrible ending.
If someone can manage their spending and savings of course it will be very easy for them to be able to have investments that they can run well, when someone chooses to save and restrain themselves from spending their money of course this is very stupid because they have taken the trouble they suck at making money and they don't enjoy it themselves.

Preparing for emergency needs is of course very important to be able to meet these needs because we ourselves never know when we will need these needs and if we don't have savings that we can use of course it will be very difficult to meet these needs and avoid bank loans for things that It's not necessary, of course it's very good because if we have a bank loan, of course this will make it very difficult for us to pay it off if we don't have income that we can use to pay it.
Indeed, having an emergency fund is very important nowadays because we really don't know what will going to happen in the near future, just like when pandemic strikes us, some people aren't prepared because they are all complacent on what they currently have, without preparing theirselves, so in the end, majority runs out their savings and some of their investment has been sold due to emergency needs.
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There are a lot of contradictions to this as everyone as different ways they will view it and for those that will benefit from the type and nature of the man, they will be glad he does so and will pray he continues in such manner. For those that have nothing to benefit, they will just assume what type of man is that or what it is up to or can equally abuse the hell out of him for spending lavishly when he’s suppose to be saving. I have got to a point where I don’t care what other people do with their lives as long as it doesn’t affects other peoples means of livelihood. You own your life, you’ve been living it everyday and one day you’ll definitely die. So enjoy it while you’re still alive before kicking the bucket.
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There must be balance between your spending and savings. There are people who only used to save money and make there life miserable by not spending on themselves. Life is full of ups and downs, so one must has adequate savings to deal with any emergency like health issues. To avoid going for bank loans or using credit card it's advisable to use your own savings. Those who only enjoy life and have zero savings have a terrible ending.
If someone can manage their spending and savings of course it will be very easy for them to be able to have investments that they can run well, when someone chooses to save and restrain themselves from spending their money of course this is very stupid because they have taken the trouble they suck at making money and they don't enjoy it themselves.

Preparing for emergency needs is of course very important to be able to meet these needs because we ourselves never know when we will need these needs and if we don't have savings that we can use of course it will be very difficult to meet these needs and avoid bank loans for things that It's not necessary, of course it's very good because if we have a bank loan, of course this will make it very difficult for us to pay it off if we don't have income that we can use to pay it.
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Some people feel that feel that life needs to be enjoyed once you are life, so investment looks like a trash to this kind of persons, there are different set of persons, people with wasteful life and people with cautious spending habit, it is normal for this art of persons to exist, most times people that are not reckless in spending are seen as stingy people no matter what they do they are not regarded as liberal people but their is something that's sure that I know, spending should be minimized by man who really wants to invest for the future, for one to be rich or prosperous in life there should be plan on ground for such modest or materialize, making investment part of you will help you to know that the future exist in the reality, though I didn't say that we shouldn't eat or buy things that we like rather am of the opinion that money should be spent meaningfully.

There must be balance between your spending and savings. There are people who only used to save money and make there life miserable by not spending on themselves. Life is full of ups and downs, so one must has adequate savings to deal with any emergency like health issues. To avoid going for bank loans or using credit card it's advisable to use your own savings. Those who only enjoy life and have zero savings have a terrible ending.

Yes it is true that balance must remain a priority, saving is good but make sure to prioritize your life, or that means when you get an income then it is better to prioritize your basic needs first and if for example there is money left over then yes you can allocate it to savings as one of the measures for prevention when an urgent unexpected situation comes. However, thinking long and wisely is the solution in terms of financial management, because being rational and wise will make you make decisions that are right and in accordance with the conditions.

But sometimes there are always some people who do not think about their future or have no worries about anything that will happen in the future such as some unexpected events that force you to spend some money to overcome the problem, they are usually more concerned with momentary pleasures such as spending all the money they have for something that is actually not very important which in the end they are trapped in debt when unexpected events come.
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Irresponsible people living a happier life is the part that I feel horrible about. First of every single month, I end up trying to hold back my tears from seeing the amount of debt I have to pay and somehow manage to live, and I am not someone who lives an expensive life, I just had some terrible stuff happened in my life medically, not to me but to my loved ones and I am trying to pay back that debt and I am having so much trouble, I literally spend weeks every year just eating ramen noodles and potatoes back to back, just to make sure I can afford to pay my debts.

Later I see my friends who have absolutely no money at all, going to vacations with credit card debt, and somehow manage to pay it back eventually, and that makes me go mad.
No point getting mad over what your friends can do, so even if your life is hard right now, at least you did not put yourself in that position due to a bunch of dumb decisions, so given enough time you should recover your former life and most likely you will save enough so even those emergencies cannot shake your life the same way they did already, while your friends will eventually take on too much debt, a few things will not go their way and then they will be drowning on debt.
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Some people feel that feel that life needs to be enjoyed once you are life, so investment looks like a trash to this kind of persons, there are different set of persons, people with wasteful life and people with cautious spending habit, it is normal for this art of persons to exist, most times people that are not reckless in spending are seen as stingy people no matter what they do they are not regarded as liberal people but their is something that's sure that I know, spending should be minimized by man who really wants to invest for the future, for one to be rich or prosperous in life there should be plan on ground for such modest or materialize, making investment part of you will help you to know that the future exist in the reality, though I didn't say that we shouldn't eat or buy things that we like rather am of the opinion that money should be spent meaningfully.

There must be balance between your spending and savings. There are people who only used to save money and make there life miserable by not spending on themselves. Life is full of ups and downs, so one must has adequate savings to deal with any emergency like health issues. To avoid going for bank loans or using credit card it's advisable to use your own savings. Those who only enjoy life and have zero savings have a terrible ending.
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While most of us thinks that there are only addicted gamblers who are reckless spenders, I want to let us know too that there are other reckless spenders who are even Irresponsible to their responsibilities and bringing about devalues to their influential personalities.

While in a sit out with friends last night, there was this honourable looking man who whose table was served with lot of expressive wines and edibles alongside with his friends too, While he is sitted very close to me, he was bragging and was even louder than the MC with the microphone saying... Life is sweet and we all have just one life so lets enjoy it to the fullest because while we are strong and healthy today, some are dead while some are in hospital.
Meanwhile we that are here do not know about our tomorrow so... Let's catch up the cruise of today because we are not sure of our tomorrow.
So he called in the waiter with more order placed.
As time goes but he was having incoming calls that he refused to answer and at last the call came I noticed he stored the number with My Wife and then he shutdown the phone to have his peace and concentrate on his enjoyment.

I am not sure of my instincts towards this man but with experiences from people of such nature, they are ones who lavishes their money on pleasures and does not have plans for their futures, they ends up regreting after much expenses when they runs out of funds. Then, they feels remorseful to had lavished their money on unnecessary expenditures and feels they had learnt their lessions but when they refills their pockets again they lost their responsible minds.
Meanwhile... They are usually the kind of people that budgets their incomes on unproductive and Irresponsible expenditures rather than spending on their families or even outdoors responsible spendings.

These are usually the set of persons that says... Had I know and once upon a time during their old ages after they must have spent their retirement resource at their youthful ages and end up being disregarded in the family and looses their influential values around the societies.


This is really sort of an odd story or I guess kind of hard to understand what you mean by telling this story but I guess if I think I know what you're saying, or if I'm picking it up correctly..I see this all the time.  So many people blow money early in retirement and don't know how to make it last.  I think it's one of the most common occurrences I come across in the world of finance.
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Irresponsible people living a happier life is the part that I feel horrible about. First of every single month, I end up trying to hold back my tears from seeing the amount of debt I have to pay and somehow manage to live, and I am not someone who lives an expensive life, I just had some terrible stuff happened in my life medically, not to me but to my loved ones and I am trying to pay back that debt and I am having so much trouble, I literally spend weeks every year just eating ramen noodles and potatoes back to back, just to make sure I can afford to pay my debts.

Later I see my friends who have absolutely no money at all, going to vacations with credit card debt, and somehow manage to pay it back eventually, and that makes me go mad.
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Everyone with the way they understood life, if they see's life as something one needs to enjoy without making a proper investment then that is the way they viewed their lives. But those with the conscience and conscious of becoming penurious would always go for investment and wise spending. Naturally I don't see any need for someone to go waste money for that are necessary for the to spend that much although, there is nothing wrong when someone spend a dollar or 2 over a bottle of drink or food, but there should be a limits to how men spend on irrelevant things because life we say doesn't end immediately when we finished every money we have worked for.


Some people feel that feel that life needs to be enjoyed once you are life, so investment looks like a trash to this kind of persons, there are different set of persons, people with wasteful life and people with cautious spending habit, it is normal for this art of persons to exist, most times people that are not reckless in spending are seen as stingy people no matter what they do they are not regarded as liberal people but their is something that's sure that I know, spending should be minimized by man who really wants to invest for the future, for one to be rich or prosperous in life there should be plan on ground for such modest or materialize, making investment part of you will help you to know that the future exist in the reality, though I didn't say that we shouldn't eat or buy things that we like rather am of the opinion that money should be spent meaningfully.
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Yes, no matter how much income we have, if we cannot manage our finances well then there will be no visible results from that income. If indeed we have income that helps us meet our needs then we must maintain it. with the story you mentioned, I think they think short, this happened to my own older brother, where when he had no income and money to handle he sold everything he had without hesitation. I often admonished him to have certain boundaries by not selling everything he owned and told him to look for work but he remained stubborn so he continued to follow what he thought, until in the end I was the one responsible for all his pocket money, and that was annoying. .

The hope is that we just adapt to what we have, if our income or income is not too much then don't force yourself to look luxurious just because you want praise from other people. I think it's better to appear simple with what is as long as we don't lack in terms of money, needs and income earned.
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Meanwhile we that are here do not know about our tomorrow so... Let's catch up the cruise of today because we are not sure of our tomorrow.
While I believe that whatever people eat or buy with their (own) money shouldn't be judged wasteful, I'm of the opinion that anyone who says let's enjoy today because we don't know what tomorrow holds for us isn't a wise person. Tomorrow can come with its own vicissitudes and anyone without saved up cash may not be able to deal with it. Tomorrow shouldn't be toyed with. That man wasn't a man of wisdom for allegedly making that comment.

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As time goes but he was having incoming calls that he refused to answer and at last the call came I noticed he stored the number with My Wife and then he shutdown the phone to have his peace and concentrate on his enjoyment.
We don't know what took him to that joint, it could be wife's nagging at home and he wanted to get his peace of mind. If it was that, I can't judge him harshly. However, if he ordinarily left home to hang out with his friends and to spend heavily on them and then refused to pick or return his wife's call he acted childishly.
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While most of us thinks that there are only addicted gamblers who are reckless spenders, I want to let us know too that there are other reckless spenders who are even Irresponsible to their responsibilities and bringing about devalues to their influential personalities.

While in a sit out with friends last night, there was this honourable looking man who whose table was served with lot of expressive wines and edibles alongside with his friends too, While he is sitted very close to me, he was bragging and was even louder than the MC with the microphone saying... Life is sweet and we all have just one life so lets enjoy it to the fullest because while we are strong and healthy today, some are dead while some are in hospital.
Meanwhile we that are here do not know about our tomorrow so... Let's catch up the cruise of today because we are not sure of our tomorrow.
So he called in the waiter with more order placed.
As time goes but he was having incoming calls that he refused to answer and at last the call came I noticed he stored the number with My Wife and then he shutdown the phone to have his peace and concentrate on his enjoyment.

I am not sure of my instincts towards this man but with experiences from people of such nature, they are ones who lavishes their money on pleasures and does not have plans for their futures, they ends up regreting after much expenses when they runs out of funds. Then, they feels remorseful to had lavished their money on unnecessary expenditures and feels they had learnt their lessions but when they refills their pockets again they lost their responsible minds.
Meanwhile... They are usually the kind of people that budgets their incomes on unproductive and Irresponsible expenditures rather than spending on their families or even outdoors responsible spendings.

These are usually the set of persons that says... Had I know and once upon a time during their old ages after they must have spent their retirement resource at their youthful ages and end up being disregarded in the family and looses their influential values around the societies.

I wouldn't be too quick to judge anyone, regardless of how fucked up they act, does he emanate the energy of a textbook asshole? Yes, but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean they are an eligible dumbfuck who lives off of inconveniencing people and telling them that he is better than anyone else in the room. And he's with friends too, in my opinion, long as you get your permission to go from the wife you're good to go, and them being married means they have a good idea of how this guy acts when having fun.

Perhaps I'm being the devil's advocate here but the thing is that it's so easy to scrutinize people from the first impression they made with us, I'm pretty sure this guy just knows how to have fun and is utterly annoyed by a wife that's too controlling that even when they were having fun she wanted to keep tabs on him. Plus chances are this guy's able to pay for his shit anyway, I say do what you want with your money, at the end of the day you're not gonna be able to keep these riches when you die, so make the most out of it while you're still here yeah?
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Maybe his wife is real work of art. So instead of giving a ton of money to lawyers and half the remainder to her he is just going to treat himself to a nice time.

I get it.
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