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Maybe they are just people who do not realize that they can save enough to do something big in life? Maybe they realized they could do this and have small happy moments and that's the best they could hope for? That's the thing that is lacking these days, people lost hope, any hope that they could live a better life.

They think that no matter what they do, they won't live a better life, and that means with debt the best they can do would be making a life that would have some stories to tell. I am one of those people, not that I spend it on irresponsible ways, but I lost hope, I can take out any debt I want, but I do not see any future where I can live a richer life, that just doesn't make sense to me at all.
And I am very sorry to say it's not good for one to be thinking that way no matter what. One should not loose hope especially when there's still life, we should have hope that we can do more than what we have done. But it's should be with great patience , endurance and time.
      When you are busy building your own self to see the better part of your self, you are going to loose 99% of your friends. So it's better for us to learn how to discipline ourselves economically. We need to learn how to spend wisely and not lavishly. It leads to high rate of poverty when you always spend more than what you earn.
we should always be spending below our earnings.
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If you look at it, there is no shortage of such people in our society.  There are many people who spend uncontrollably and do not care about their families at all.  It is very sad that a person who earns but does not take his family seriously and does not care.  I know other family members of such people are not happy at all.  Because this one person is enough for their mental suffering.  They don't care where they will get the money if there is any big danger in the future.  Where will the money for their treatment come from if they suffer a major accident?  There is no use in understanding them.  Because they usually don't listen to others.
Can't blame them, a lot of people that have been born into this world always lacking of their desire will always end up having to make the most reckless decisions because they're the ones that got deprived of things that they wanted but they don't have the money to satisfy that desire and so the moment that they're making money, they start losing control over how they spend their money which leads to them becoming irresponsible, one thing that could help solve this problem is probably the effort of teaching more people about financial responsibility, it may not prevent the reckless spending from totally happening but at the least, people are going to be aware that whatever they're doing is wrong and they know that it's time to change for the better.
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Maybe they are just people who do not realize that they can save enough to do something big in life? Maybe they realized they could do this and have small happy moments and that's the best they could hope for? That's the thing that is lacking these days, people lost hope, any hope that they could live a better life.

They think that no matter what they do, they won't live a better life, and that means with debt the best they can do would be making a life that would have some stories to tell. I am one of those people, not that I spend it on irresponsible ways, but I lost hope, I can take out any debt I want, but I do not see any future where I can live a richer life, that just doesn't make sense to me at all.
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People are different in terms of;

-Perception in life
-Behavior
-Approach towards family relationship
-Priorities and importance in order
-Ideals


This is why on the time that we are seeing that they are opposing on what ideals we do have then it would really be just that normal that we would really be making out such
comment or those kind of words that they are doing the bad thing but eventually we dont know about their background. You cant say that they are spending lavishly, what if they do have the money actually came from their day job and with their other businesses or income source? For sure it would really be just that a piece of cake kind of spending but you do end up on having those
bad impressions just because he had been behaving that way. So it would be better that we should stop on minding on things on which we know that its their
money and its impossible that you wont really be thinking about budgeting or something.

I totally agree with your opinion. I think the OP continued to eavesdrop with the other table because he assume that this man was overspending recklessly and was ignoring his wife. He also assume that this man was being irresponsible for spending that money with the others instead of his family. Well, a family man would always have their family as the priority, spending with the others sometimes are essential for mental and emotional health. It's not all the time we are spending exclusively for our family. In fact, the OP might didn't know what's going on between that man and his wife and it looks like it didn't cross his mind the possibilities of that couple being in an argument and that the man chooses to walk away to cool everything down.
IMO, what the man did is a serious indication that he and his wife were having an argument based on his demeanor and choices of words.
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While most of us thinks that there are only addicted gamblers who are reckless spenders, I want to let us know too that there are other reckless spenders who are even Irresponsible to their responsibilities and bringing about devalues to their influential personalities.

While in a sit out with friends last night, there was this honourable looking man who whose table was served with lot of expressive wines and edibles alongside with his friends too, While he is sitted very close to me, he was bragging and was even louder than the MC with the microphone saying... Life is sweet and we all have just one life so lets enjoy it to the fullest because while we are strong and healthy today, some are dead while some are in hospital.
Meanwhile we that are here do not know about our tomorrow so... Let's catch up the cruise of today because we are not sure of our tomorrow.
So he called in the waiter with more order placed.
As time goes but he was having incoming calls that he refused to answer and at last the call came I noticed he stored the number with My Wife and then he shutdown the phone to have his peace and concentrate on his enjoyment.

I am not sure of my instincts towards this man but with experiences from people of such nature, they are ones who lavishes their money on pleasures and does not have plans for their futures, they ends up regreting after much expenses when they runs out of funds. Then, they feels remorseful to had lavished their money on unnecessary expenditures and feels they had learnt their lessions but when they refills their pockets again they lost their responsible minds.
Meanwhile... They are usually the kind of people that budgets their incomes on unproductive and Irresponsible expenditures rather than spending on their families or even outdoors responsible spendings.

These are usually the set of persons that says... Had I know and once upon a time during their old ages after they must have spent their retirement resource at their youthful ages and end up being disregarded in the family and looses their influential values around the societies.


People are different in terms of;

-Perception in life
-Behavior
-Approach towards family relationship
-Priorities and importance in order
-Ideals


This is why on the time that we are seeing that they are opposing on what ideals we do have then it would really be just that normal that we would really be making out such
comment or those kind of words that they are doing the bad thing but eventually we dont know about their background. You cant say that they are spending lavishly, what if they do have the money actually came from their day job and with their other businesses or income source? For sure it would really be just that a piece of cake kind of spending but you do end up on having those
bad impressions just because he had been behaving that way. So it would be better that we should stop on minding on things on which we know that its their
money and its impossible that you wont really be thinking about budgeting or something.
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This whole "live for today" thing? Where people blow cash like it's gonna grow back on trees? It's not just dumb, it's dangerous. It's screaming a lack of foresight, a lack of basic planning. Yeah, yeah, the rush of spending feels good in the moment, but that's not living, that's being reckless. It's not just high-rollers at casinos, it's everywhere: people spending way beyond their means, chasing that quick hit of good feeling that comes with buying stuff. They prioritize the now, forget about the future...and who's there for them when things go south?

They trade real happiness for that fleeting rush. And when it all blows up in their faces (the savings gone, the bad debt piling up) then it's "if only I knew better". But they'll do it again because they haven't addressed the root problem: their mindset. That's the hard part, fixing HOW they think about money. And guess what? Society is part of the problem. We glorify spending, but we don't talk about the fallout. It's up to us to be smarter, challenge this idea that living well means spending until it hurts
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It's acceptable as you earlier subjected that you're not sure of your instincts towards what you sights on the mans activity in just in a one time engagement with him even when you don't know about his privacies and background.
What I understand about Life is that you don't just have to look away from thing's that happens around your notice even if it didn't directly occured to you In particular, it'd always help you to have otherwise thinking before you take an action so that you don't regret at the end of it on a clear conciousness.
That's a sociological and psychological faculty of one trying to grow impact by impossibilities and possibilities imaginations whether we're sure or not sure of it.
Onto this man in question by Op, I'd he might be a responsible one which you don't know and the fact that he spends extravagantly doesn't mean he doesn't stick to provide the needful for his family.
I don't see anything wrong of a man enjoying himself or doing what makes him happy if he can afford it. If he has enough to spend so he it but if he's the fond type of lavishing his money out like that and doesn't take his responsibilities down to his family then there I'd say he's an irresponsible man because there are also men who're carelessly spending on unproductive pleasures that only have them temporary glory or punkick hailing and regrets all of their unnecessary expenses once they're out of funds.
The Op can still be right but let's say the man's story line can be an assumption since it's not verified.
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There could be a lot of reasons of why that person acted like that, not going into those details, I think we should let people be as they are, because we dont know what they have gone through.

We might be completely right or grossly mistaken on our assessment on the internet here. Let them spend but we should focus on what we spend and try to moderate that. Dont use this person as an example of how people commonly spend because they dont, most people are getting careful of spending and saving than ever before.
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I don't even know if this story is true, it sounds quite like a silly story, why are you intruding into the privacy of others and making claims you are not even sure of. I am not saying that people should be irresponsible in their spending, but you cannot judge a man based on the story you just told us, savings and investments are very important in protecting wealth and money, but one should also take their time to have fun and enjoy their lives, you cannot save everything.
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It is true that there is no guarantee of life and we should not think so deep about future but it is also true that spending too much money on useless things is also very bad. Some people spend lots of money on their friends and wants to enjoy their life but later on they regret for all the life they have lived.

People who are talented often use to save some amount for later use because they know that if they spend all amount on enjoying life that what will they do if they needs money for the aim of handling an emergency. Everyone can use money without planning and its too easy to spend money but saving is hard and only those can save who have the capability to live a life with minimum resources.
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What's with the hate of that man when he did nothing to you? He's not wrong when he said people should enjoy their lives and live it to the fullest because we only have one life to live. I think he's hit your ego and he can live lavishly and boast his riches through the microphone. So what if your instincts tells you what's your opinion about him and coming from you, you're not even sure. Just let people do what they wanna do with their money but some privileges from the ones who have a better status in life can do anything they want. Whether they have inherited the riches or worked hard for it, what is it for us? We have our own journey and if you think that someone like him is annoying while both of you sits on the same place then get out and let him pass through is own time of having fun and have fun when he's done, it's simple as that. But you're also right with the example that there are people that could be like him but in real life they're broke but again, what is it for us for their status in life?
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Life is sweet and we all have just one life so lets enjoy it to the fullest because while we are strong and healthy today, some are dead while some are in hospital.
Meanwhile we that are here do not know about our tomorrow so...
Rarely does a person think about death unless he is old enough or his death has been medically predicted by a doctor. If you find a man like that, then don't disturb his fun. After all, you don't know how productive they were in the past.

That’s not true. Many people are anxious about their health and life in general even if they are still young. Their anxiety does not generally have to be triggered by an illness from their own body. They could have grown up seeing their other family members go through illness or even watch death and not be able to process it correctly hence why growing up they never got over their fear of death.
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Here we go again someone who want to control someone life when he's not even give any contribution to that people.

If you're his parents, someone who provides and taking care, someone who give money for every month etc etc, it's still make sense you don't want that people doing something you don't like.

If you're just a friend, boyfriend/girlfriend etc, it's better for other people to avoid you.
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There should be a balance in all things we do in our life..  we do not know when we will die, so we should spend a portion of our income, while we are still able to do it.

On the other hand, we might live until the age of 100 and then we will need more money for care and medicine. So my advice will be to save a portion of your income for the future and also spend some of your income to enjoy your life, whilst you are healthy enough to do it.

That guy might have a lot of money saved up and he might be living a happy live on the interest of his investments. We cannot judge someone based on limited information.  Roll Eyes
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As far as I understand maybe he has a lot of money so he is blowing money like this. There are many such people who consider it their fashion to spend more money and do not care about their losses. Beyond saving for emergencies you can save cash for other purposes as well. And having specific goals will motivate you to save. Setting a specific goal and giving it a name will help keep you on track.
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If you look at it, there is no shortage of such people in our society.  There are many people who spend uncontrollably and do not care about their families at all.  It is very sad that a person who earns but does not take his family seriously and does not care.  I know other family members of such people are not happy at all.  Because this one person is enough for their mental suffering.  They don't care where they will get the money if there is any big danger in the future.  Where will the money for their treatment come from if they suffer a major accident?  There is no use in understanding them.  Because they usually don't listen to others.
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I think you're too hasty in jumping into conclusion when you know absolutely nothing about the person. He could have made so much money for himself that needs to spend some of it and what you saw could be 0.00001 of his wealth, so it won't really cost him anything. However, I'm not in support of extravagant lifestyle and I wouldn't take to heart the things he said because shoes have different sizes. Also, he's really dumb for exposing himself in such manner, he just opened up himself for attack.
People do really just that love on having that kind of involvement or something has to say into someones life just because on what they are seeing and its true that it doesnt matter whether he/she would really be using up his money on buying into those things on which it is something that not that practical anymore. We do have that saying "your money,your rules" on which it would really be better not to make yourself that too
sensitive on the things that you are really that seeing because if you do make yourself that having such kind of involvement or loving up to have those words about other peoples conditions then it does just
proves out that you are someone who do really love to see others situation.  Grin

It would be best that you should really just that let those people on whatever the things that they would really be doing and just really that leave them alone on whatever
decisions that they would really be making into their own lives.
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I think you're too hasty in jumping into conclusion when you know absolutely nothing about the person. He could have made so much money for himself that needs to spend some of it and what you saw could be 0.00001 of his wealth, so it won't really cost him anything. However, I'm not in support of extravagant lifestyle and I wouldn't take to heart the things he said because shoes have different sizes. Also, he's really dumb for exposing himself in such manner, he just opened up himself for attack.
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These are usually the set of persons that says... Had I know and once upon a time during their old ages after they must have spent their retirement resource at their youthful ages and end up being disregarded in the family and looses their influential values around the societies.

Irresponsible people like that are everywhere, they live on the now and care nothing about the past or the future, and no matter how many times you try to help them they are never going to listen as they believe themselves to be smarter than you, so let them be and avoid putting yourself on their path of self-destruction, as once their money runs out, instead of changing their ways they try to get someone else to fund the lifestyle they believe they deserve.
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Particularly,having or making poor financial decisions can affect your relationships and standard of living.Irresponsible people fail to manage money effectively resulting them into debts and financial issues.They usually end up disappointed and finds it difficult to cater and cope for thier upkeep.

They fail to adhere to certain advice and instructions that period as they feel they're on top of the world.Normally,not saving enough money can make someone financially irresponsible because money is supposed to be saved and spent always at the right time.Secondly,ignoring investment opportunities can also reflect that someone is financially irresponsible.
No one is promised tomorrow,so its advisable to save now and invest for the future.

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If you are a worker or an enterprenuer, you should be happy that such people exist, because many of them are probably your clients. If everyone was only saving money, it would be very hard to do businesses. So in a way their loss is your gain. Many economists even suggest stimulating spending to help the economy grow, out of fear of a deflationary spiral.
Be that as it may,  our OP knows not the true story behind the man's enjoyment at the spur of that moment. Perhaps he had been sick or had done more in being responsible that it kills him inside and that's the only chance so far he had gotten to blow off steam and be far away from expenses and bills that don't benefit him.
I have seen many of those who have good retirement plans and are responsible family heads who still enjoy their evening drinks with friends or alone. It just goes to say that everyone has their plans to either succeed in the end or not at all.
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