Is America a failed nation? - page 12.

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Quote from: newcoins1978 on March 05, 2016, 02:42:43 PM

They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

Right. "Differently". You really believe that?

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They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

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Quote from: Sourgummies on March 05, 2016, 12:21:44 PM

America is just simply a regurgitative system continuously being run on greed and the ideas of third-party members who are funded day and night. Just keep printing that money, keep supplying those banks, and see where you end up. But unfortunately the majority of people either don't know about the reality or are abstaining from thinking about it. Economy is shit.

As long as there are other countries in the world which accepts the dollars that America prints, this cycle goes on. When the confidence of other countries runs out, there is going to be a big mess.

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Never ending parties are what Im into.

America is just simply a regurgitative system continuously being run on greed and the ideas of third-party members who are funded day and night. Just keep printing that money, keep supplying those banks, and see where you end up. But unfortunately the majority of people either don't know about the reality or are abstaining from thinking about it. Economy is shit.

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I believe America was the most successful nation in the history of the world. It protected individual and economic freedom through it's constitution and with that degree liberty, people flourished and created the most wealth the world's ever seen.

The reality is that with great wealth comes the same degree of government expansion because the parasitic class quickly grabs hold the reigns of power. Thieves and murderers are petty criminals. The smartest sociopaths in the world go to the top, where they can commit theft and murder on grand scale and people praise them for it.

America will fall just as all nations throughout history have, it's inevitable. So in that sense it will be a failed nation.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on March 05, 2016, 12:14:06 AM

I think it would be wrong to call the US a failed nation, the people still have a pretty high living standard compared to the rest of the world.
There is also relative peace and stability if you look at the grand scheme of things. I would call North Korea a failed nation, or Syria, Iraq in their current state.

It's interesting that you bring up North Korea, among the other examples of Syria and Iraq. Of the three, North Korea seems like the least "failed" to me. Syria and Iraq are both undergoing violent instability that threatens the cohesion of the nation, but not so in North Korea. Now granted, that's because North Korea has a vice-like grip over the populace, but that doesn't at all equate to being a failed state. Brutal authoritarianism doesn't make a state a failed nation.

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I think it would be wrong to call the US a failed nation, the people still have a pretty high living standard compared to the rest of the world.
There is also relative peace and stability if you look at the grand scheme of things. I would call North Korea a failed nation, or Syria, Iraq in their current state.

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Quote from: Yakamoto on February 25, 2016, 12:33:25 PM

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Quote from: EdenHazard on February 25, 2016, 04:01:47 AM

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.

We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU, and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs. Wink

Exactly. The US might not be the role model for economic progress, but there are other countries far worse than it such as the countries you mentioned.

The US does have some inherent advantages that allow for them to avoid issues that other EU countries face, such as having the largest economy in the world and the world reserve currency, however. It would be interesting to see what would happen to them if they didn't have the same advantages.

You make it sound like the US just lucked into having the world's largest economy. You know how that happened? They built it. When America broke ties with Europe in the 18th century, they also broke ties with a lot of the class structure and political anchors that were weighing Europe down. America was successful because they didn't have wasteful monarchies tying them down, and because to a large extent, it was a meritocracy, where the best ideas and the most innovative people win. That's what created the world's largest economy. It wasn't luck, it was earned.

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I think every nation is a failure right now with their economic standards(fiat). If they can switch to a more stable economic system, like BTC or gold standard, then they have a much better chance of becoming successful.

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I would say Americans as nation are on right way to hell!

Because they have become nation that neglecting everything.
Why some free nation like Libya was bombed, they don't know, they believe to its government.
They don't even realize how big is national debt or don't care?
Buying, spending, while kids growing with bad influence of MTV POP culture.
Hollywood influence, i wont even bother to talk.

I can only ask what happened on 9.11. ?

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"The United States government reported in 2008 that approximately 13 million people over the age
of 12 have used methamphetamine—and 529,000 of those are regular users."
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If we forget on war on terrorists and economic crisis, oil price dropping..
Maybe this can tell us how US nation standing.

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What is America nation native americans or white american USA constitution is full of great words
but for many americans only words USA is in deep crisis becouse of sate of mind of americans ignorance arogance paranoia low selfestimate mixed with big sic ambitions
Money is nothin debt always most important is human capitlal corporartion has to fail does anything will lefr

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The question is: does America seem like a successful nation?

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all the time from being founded America has been climbing up to the hill .Now it has come to the highest part. But a wrong hill cause the hill has no climbing down , a one side hill , cause of living a life with the help of loaners. After now it is time for america fall from a great height.A totally collapse.

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Is it failed now? No, not yet anyway. Did Obamacare hurt the country? Yes, it did. Are there a lot of policies in place that are destroying what the nation was founded on? Absolutely, and eventually those policies will destroy the nation. The constitution was designed to limit the power of government and create checks and balances for the specific branches. The leaders of this country have all but destroyed the constitution and what was intended by it. Executive orders, BLM, EPA, and whole slew of other things are at the top of the list. It hasn't failed yet, but it is well on its way.

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Quote from: Kprawn on February 25, 2016, 12:18:37 PM

Quote from: JosNekoKopa on February 25, 2016, 11:57:16 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on February 25, 2016, 04:01:47 AM

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.

We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU, and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs. Wink

Exactly. The US might not be the role model for economic progress, but there are other countries far worse than it such as the countries you mentioned.

The US does have some inherent advantages that allow for them to avoid issues that other EU countries face, such as having the largest economy in the world and the world reserve currency, however. It would be interesting to see what would happen to them if they didn't have the same advantages.

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Quote from: JosNekoKopa on February 25, 2016, 11:57:16 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on February 25, 2016, 04:01:47 AM

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.

We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU, and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs. Wink

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Quote from: EdenHazard on February 25, 2016, 04:01:47 AM

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.

We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU, and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

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I think not, I think America is regarded as a developed country that is good, although a lot of rumors about the state of American news but also very much good news from the country, one of which they always make a good movie, and we always wait at the cinema in our country

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Quote from: HarryKPeters on February 24, 2016, 08:09:09 PM

Not Failed, but they got a lot of corrupt people with power. This is causing their downfall.
In general Americans are not better or worse then the average human being walking on this earth.

But people like Trump give them a bad name.

And if the recent majority ridings have anything to say about this, it looks like he is going run that nation then drive it into the ground all in the name of profiteering for his name.
He is so delusional he stated that 74% of the latino population gave him a positive approval rating in recent polls.
What Huh

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