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August 11, 2014, 08:03:10 AM
While I don't think that bitcoin has to do anything with CIA, there is possibility of some government influence in that project. But we can't be sure and I bet it is too big now and to hard to control for whoever who put in motion. All I know for sure that Facebook has connection with CIA and it is proven fact.

Well sure there's a possibility, but I don't think it's likely. Maybe the people behind it have worked for the government before, but I doubt bitcoin was anything to do with them. and besides, bitcoin isn't something they could control on a whim anyway.
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August 11, 2014, 07:58:24 AM
While I don't think that bitcoin has to do anything with CIA, there is possibility of some government influence in that project. But we can't be sure and I bet it is too big now and to hard to control for whoever who put in motion. All I know for sure that Facebook has connection with CIA and it is proven fact.
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August 11, 2014, 07:09:25 AM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

Well If they created it and had a very large amount of coins in their control they would have the ability to manipulate the market in the favor.  This is the kind of think people who use Bitcoin try to avoid and would put peoples investments in jeopardy if you ask me.  I just don't think this is the case at all I just like the speculation on the possibility.
There were not any BTC that was premined. All of the coins that were ever mined and all the coins that were ever transferred are publicly viable on the blockchain. AFAIK there is not any evidence of any of this.

Yeah, I fell for that awhile back apparently Bitcoin wasn't pre-mined at all, another crappy lie spread by somebody, I think Satoshi did mine the genesis block but that's it.

That was probably just fud spread by someone, not to mention satoshi hasn't even spent his coins so it's silly to even say it was premined.
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August 11, 2014, 03:55:27 AM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

Well If they created it and had a very large amount of coins in their control they would have the ability to manipulate the market in the favor.  This is the kind of think people who use Bitcoin try to avoid and would put peoples investments in jeopardy if you ask me.  I just don't think this is the case at all I just like the speculation on the possibility.
There were not any BTC that was premined. All of the coins that were ever mined and all the coins that were ever transferred are publicly viable on the blockchain. AFAIK there is not any evidence of any of this.

Yeah, I fell for that awhile back apparently Bitcoin wasn't pre-mined at all, another crappy lie spread by somebody, I think Satoshi did mine the genesis block but that's it.
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August 11, 2014, 03:18:28 AM
Why there are so many themes about CIA and BTC? Huh
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August 10, 2014, 11:53:28 PM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

Well If they created it and had a very large amount of coins in their control they would have the ability to manipulate the market in the favor.  This is the kind of think people who use Bitcoin try to avoid and would put peoples investments in jeopardy if you ask me.  I just don't think this is the case at all I just like the speculation on the possibility.
There were not any BTC that was premined. All of the coins that were ever mined and all the coins that were ever transferred are publicly viable on the blockchain. AFAIK there is not any evidence of any of this.
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August 10, 2014, 02:26:40 PM
There was actually another news article posted about this recently...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-suspected-nsa-cia-project-080715070.html#vcgTvqc

In there it states that Nakamoto translates to "Central Intelligence" in Japanese...


People are able to come up with conspiracies about anything...


This is the same badly written piece of junk discussed in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731321.0;all

The CIA Project, referred to as a group, is actually one man who likes to pretend he has followers. See the member count at the bottom of this page:

http://www.ciaproject.org/forum/

He has been busy with similar deceit on this forum lately under the username "adoni" and several others.


As for the "journalist" of the above article, I can't decide if he's really that bad at his job, or if he's been paid to spout this garbage. Whichever, he should be ashamed, and probably fired.




This thread is still alive.   The article tries to state that threads with themes like this get removed from the forums.  I have no doubt that there are government workers that troll these forums, but I don't think they actively try and get things removed...I think they just read what people are saying and see if they think there is anyone they need to keep a closer eye on...
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August 10, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

Well If they created it and had a very large amount of coins in their control they would have the ability to manipulate the market in the favor.  This is the kind of think people who use Bitcoin try to avoid and would put peoples investments in jeopardy if you ask me.  I just don't think this is the case at all I just like the speculation on the possibility.
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August 10, 2014, 12:54:41 PM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

You're making the mistake that the entire US Government is one entity and has one goal.

The NSA and CIA operate almost always for their own independent gains regardless of the fallout.

I don't think that the CIA had any involvement in Bitcoin, but if it turns out they did, I wouldn't be surprised, it's a system that could help them more than harm them.
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August 10, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.
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August 10, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
Yep I think so, a way to make a global currency. What better way than this, pretend that some 200 IQ guy comes up with the idea of the centrury and make it grow slowly. After a decennium  it's could be used for everything.
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August 10, 2014, 12:31:26 PM
Gavin Andresen was invited to speak to the CIA in 2011. I doubt they would be asking him for infos if they had already invented and successfully initiated public adoption of BTC. It is obvious that BTC will be very useful for CIA operations, seeing as their jurisdiction is OUTSIDE the USA and funds often need to be moved across boarders covertly.

The problem with just about every single conspiracy theory out there is this; If it is such top-secret high-level operations that are supposed to take place without public knowledge, how come the most whacked out, idiotic, poor, dumb hillbillies are the ones that always uncover the "real story"? You would think that the weakest link in the chain would be the very last to figure out this shit. I guess there is some sort of info leak that flows directly through every trailer park and welfare office in America. Chemtrails are bullshit too (its called jet fuel exhaust). Sorry, Sol Adoni, but your paranoid babbling is unreadable claptrap.  

Add to this.

Bitcoin is great for transferring wealth across the world, but not so great at being covert. All transactions are public. I doubt the CIA would have designed Bitcoin, because it's actually not so useful for them.

The only way the CIA developed Bitcoin was if they wanted an anonymous system, and put Bitcoin out there to see who could take it and build an anonymous version, I highly doubt that though.
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August 10, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
There should really be restrictions on who can use the Internet.

Whoever believes these things that are so obviously made by him - deserves to be in the C.I.A.

He's a rambling mad-man, mates, conspiracy theories. Bitcoin is so obviously created by the Iluminatiests and Anonymoose. 
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August 10, 2014, 12:23:48 PM
obviously yes.

the cia created bitcoin for free hashing power to crack a secret crypto used by non friendly nations.

This would make sense except that SHA-256 is not very good for keeping what you are saying secret, but rather to ensure that what is said was in fact said by a certain person. If the another country used this type of encryption then it would be very easy to tell what is being said.
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August 10, 2014, 09:25:08 AM
The all caps title steers me off right away, and at least add some proper discussion. Anyways, link to the direct article instead of reddit: http://soladoni.com/bitcoin-transaction-fees-problem/

Yeah, it doesn't look very well researched at all. Those conspiracy theories are most likely bogus. I don't even get why they would want to do such a project that could potentially enable people to anonymously transact money! If they wanted to spy on you, this doesn't make sense!
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August 10, 2014, 09:22:57 AM
Spook1:  what name should we use to publish this paper?
Spook2:  what if we translate CIA into Japanese?
Spook1:  that would be funny, OK let's do it.

That is what is proposed?   Roll Eyes

Yeh and then getting the whole translation wrong in the process, as satoshi nakamoto does not mean Central Intelligence agency.. lol I cannot believe this topic is still active around... dam trolls are everywhere

3 threads on the front page of the forum, talking about the CIA BS--- 1 was deleted. Now 2 are left!.. arghh
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August 10, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
Spook1:  what name should we use to publish this paper?
Spook2:  what if we translate CIA into Japanese?
Spook1:  that would be funny, OK let's do it.

That is what is proposed?   Roll Eyes
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August 10, 2014, 01:46:16 AM
There was actually another news article posted about this recently...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-suspected-nsa-cia-project-080715070.html#vcgTvqc

In there it states that Nakamoto translates to "Central Intelligence" in Japanese...


People are able to come up with conspiracies about anything...


This is the same badly written piece of junk discussed in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731321.0;all

The CIA Project, referred to as a group, is actually one man who likes to pretend he has followers. See the member count at the bottom of this page:

http://www.ciaproject.org/forum/

He has been busy with similar deceit on this forum lately under the username "adoni" and several others.


As for the "journalist" of the above article, I can't decide if he's really that bad at his job, or if he's been paid to spout this garbage. Whichever, he should be ashamed, and probably fired.


legendary
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August 09, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
There was actually another news article posted about this recently...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-suspected-nsa-cia-project-080715070.html#vcgTvqc

In there it states that Nakamoto translates to "Central Intelligence" in Japanese...


People are able to come up with conspiracies about anything...
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August 05, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
obviously yes.

the cia created bitcoin for free hashing power to crack a secret crypto used by non friendly nations.
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