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April 29, 2017, 09:05:37 AM
I believe that the statement: "bitcoin is new kind of money" passes the duck test.

Bitcoins function as money (they're a unit of account, a medium of exchange, and a store of value), and if PayPal started allowing Bitcoin transactions tomorrow I'm certain they'd treat them as Just Another Currency.

If you like, call it a commodity, but I think all you'll accomplish is confusing potential users who might think they'll end up getting pork-bellies delivered to their porch if they don't get rid of their bitcoins.

Well said. Bitcoin technically is a crypto-currency meaning to say that it has value and can be used on transaction. And saying that it is a new kind of money is true. Because bitcoin is a part of technology where it is develop for the future purposes. As of now it is just a base on transaction through internet imagine tomorrow and in the near future. Where it can be a currency for all in the whole world with big functionality and development for transaction and for its users to experience.
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April 28, 2017, 08:43:13 PM
Thank you, will try coinbase. To my surprise the last time I posted this comment, the value of bitcoin is only 1180usd, now its already 1355usd lols, I heard theres a fluctuation in Bitcoin price. How will I know if Bitcoin price is back to 1180usd?

I just heard bitcoin from reddit, I was curious what is it, and why its price continue to surge. I also read that the amount of scam in bitcoin is very high. But still I want to try to invest from it. I have a paypal and creditcard. How can I buy bitcoin? Please refer a not scam site.


its good to know that you are interested in bitcoin,more and more people are join daily in bitcoin and cryptocurrency network. You can buy Bitcoin from coinbase( if your country accepted by them) or you can check here other ways to buy bitcoin through PayPal http://kingoffaucet.online/buy-and-sell-bitcoin-using-paypal/

Well you can see it through preev.com this is what I've using upon checking the price of bitcoin from time to time. And with the scam that you had mentioned, just don't join those companies that are offering you percentage of earning from a short period of time and they are also called as doublers don't believe to them.
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April 28, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
Thank you, will try coinbase. To my surprise the last time I posted this comment, the value of bitcoin is only 1180usd, now its already 1355usd lols, I heard theres a fluctuation in Bitcoin price. How will I know if Bitcoin price is back to 1180usd?

I just heard bitcoin from reddit, I was curious what is it, and why its price continue to surge. I also read that the amount of scam in bitcoin is very high. But still I want to try to invest from it. I have a paypal and creditcard. How can I buy bitcoin? Please refer a not scam site.


its good to know that you are interested in bitcoin,more and more people are join daily in bitcoin and cryptocurrency network. You can buy Bitcoin from coinbase( if your country accepted by them) or you can check here other ways to buy bitcoin through PayPal http://kingoffaucet.online/buy-and-sell-bitcoin-using-paypal/
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April 22, 2017, 06:35:11 PM
Yes, this is money of a new generation. Of course, they will not become the main single currency in all countries, but they will be a wonderful additional currency.
You must be dreaming, it's impossible for bitcoin or any crypto currency to become the main currency for all countries.
As long as there are people who govern this world, the centralized world will prevail over the decentralized.
Why not? like what others said here, we cannot predict what will happen tomorrow and we also not handle the mind of others for what they are thinking of. ANd there are impossible things which is in the long run became possible, Which means if the government wants bitcoin to become centralize that's won't really be happen but bitcoin can make government to adopt it and can declare it in the future to make it their own currency little by little.

yeah we can say that bitcoin is another money that we use in online life for now. until bitcoin is accepting by the law and its accepting in all country, we can only treat bitcoin as a second money and we can not use bitcoin in our offline life as payment. just waiting the time when bitcoin can used in real life and we can really say that bitcoin is the same like money.
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April 22, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
Yes, this is money of a new generation. Of course, they will not become the main single currency in all countries, but they will be a wonderful additional currency.
You must be dreaming, it's impossible for bitcoin or any crypto currency to become the main currency for all countries.
As long as there are people who govern this world, the centralized world will prevail over the decentralized.
Why not? like what others said here, we cannot predict what will happen tomorrow and we also not handle the mind of others for what they are thinking of. ANd there are impossible things which is in the long run became possible, Which means if the government wants bitcoin to become centralize that's won't really be happen but bitcoin can make government to adopt it and can declare it in the future to make it their own currency little by little.
bitcoin actually can be whatever people want ,
when you use it to purchase something then bitcoin as a money ,
when people use bitcoin as something like commodity to trade then it could be like that ,
when people believe future of bitcoin bright enough to store your value in long term, then bitcoin as an investment ,
it's decentralized forever i guess nothing can changed into centralized.
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April 22, 2017, 06:09:15 PM
Yes, this is money of a new generation. Of course, they will not become the main single currency in all countries, but they will be a wonderful additional currency.
You must be dreaming, it's impossible for bitcoin or any crypto currency to become the main currency for all countries.
As long as there are people who govern this world, the centralized world will prevail over the decentralized.
Why not? like what others said here, we cannot predict what will happen tomorrow and we also not handle the mind of others for what they are thinking of. ANd there are impossible things which is in the long run became possible, Which means if the government wants bitcoin to become centralize that's won't really be happen but bitcoin can make government to adopt it and can declare it in the future to make it their own currency little by little.
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April 22, 2017, 05:14:59 PM
Anything that is being used as a medium of exchange is money. Bitcoin, like gold, is money.
I secondly agree with you..medium of exchange is money.
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April 22, 2017, 04:34:57 PM
Bitcoin is more of an asset then money. It's better to spread your money over assets anyway. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it's worth something and has values then maybe if you make good choices you can even profit over it.
Bitcoin can be used like an asset, if you want but bitcoin is at its best when used as a currency since you can invest in it or with it, buy and sell stuff, save for the future, so I think it is too limiting to treat bitcoin as an asset only.

All of us here are treating our bitcoins as an asset. Bitcoin surely does a lot of purpose if you have some of it, if you don't want to spend it for buying everything you want, you just simply store it and that is considered as investment. And if you want to use it then it's either you'll cash it out and convert to money or purchase online with the goods you want and pay it directly with btc.
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April 22, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
    Bitcoin is something radically new. Nothing like Bitcoin has been possible until now. I would go so far as to consider it sui generis; "in its own class".  This makes it important to understand what Bitcoin actually is before we try to describe it to others.

    We're getting a good handle on the code, and of course on Bitcoin's function and utility, but what words should we use to describe Bitcoin itself? There has been some debate in other threads [mostly my doing] over how it is like/not like money, cash, dollars, etc. I'd like to start this thread by focusing on the term "money", and play Devil's avocate by asking for your best arguments that Bitcoin IS money.

    My legal dictionary states "In usual and ordinary acceptation it [money] means gold, silver, or paper money, used as circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate." [cites omitted]

    Wikipedia says "Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally, a standard of deferred payment." [cited omitted]

    Webster's Online Dictionary defines money as:
    • 1. The most common medium of exchange; functions as legal tender; "we tried to collect the money he owed us".
    • 2. Wealth reckoned in terms of money; "all his money is in real estate".
    • 3. The official currency issued by a government or national bank; "he changed his money into francs".
    • 4. A piece of metal, as gold, silver, copper, etc., coined, or stamped, and issued by the sovereign authority as a medium of exchange in financial transactions between citizens and with government; also, any number of such pieces; coin.
    • 5. Any written or stamped promise, certificate, or order, as a government note, a bank note, a certificate of deposit, etc., which is payable in standard coined money and is lawfully current in lieu of it; in a comprehensive sense, any currency usually and lawfully employed in buying and selling.
    • 6. In general, wealth; property; as, he has much money in land, or in stocks; to make, or lose, money.
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    I maintain that per these definitions, Bitcoin cannot possibly be described as "money". And further, I think that those who do describe Bitcoin as "money" are doing this community a disservice.

    But that is just my point of view. Are there any that can convincingly argue otherwise, that Bitcoin IS money?



    It's useful to look at Bitcoin and it's Blockchain as a mechanism for the conveyance of value, that allows 'money' to be transferred across borders, globally and with minimal transaction related fees.

    Taking this view you're able to see Bitcoin as somewhat of a vehicle that leverages the internet to transport fiat currencies from position 1, to position 2 - without this money having to pass through the hands of any intermediaries along the way... which allows the end user to avoid fees and therefore a bundle of value is added to the equation for the end user... at least when we're talking about international remittances.

    So the fact that I can take $20, exchange it for it's bitcoin equivalent, send these bitcoins to a friend in Singapore - who then converts them into Singapore Dollars could suggest that Bitcoin wasn't mean't to be 'money,' but rather a value transmission system.

    This doesn't mean that BTC to BTC transactions don't occur... but it could suggest that there is a significant amount of network participants that have the end goal of converting their bitcoins into a fiat currency at one point or another.

    In my view, we need to see more BTC to BTC transactions occurring. We need more network participants who aren't playing the price speculation game and aren't simply hoarding Bitcoins in anticipation of a price hike.

    A lot more work needs to be done before we get there
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    April 22, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
    It is important how we define the concepts.
    Money is a change tool. We buy goods and services for money.
    Bitcoin is also a change tool. We can buy goods and services with Bitcoin.

    Bitcoin = Money
    If that is you definition then I guess that is right bitcoin is money but an internet money, it is different from the money that we use
    which is fiat. Bitcoin is a tool for online transaction and because of this tool we have a faster transaction which makes it very valuable
    Bitcoin is not really that different from fiat, bitcoin mostly exist as an online currency but most fiat is also just a bunch of numbers on a screen of some bank, and we are getting to the point in most  first world countries the use of cash is diminishing so I will not be surprised if at some point in the future cash stopped existing.
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    April 22, 2017, 03:46:24 PM
    Bitcoin is more of an asset then money. It's better to spread your money over assets anyway. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it's worth something and has values then maybe if you make good choices you can even profit over it.
    Bitcoin can be used like an asset, if you want but bitcoin is at its best when used as a currency since you can invest in it or with it, buy and sell stuff, save for the future, so I think it is too limiting to treat bitcoin as an asset only.
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    April 21, 2017, 12:09:27 AM
    Yes! Bitcoin is an online currency with a monetary value on it. You can buy goods with any form of currency, be it digital or physical cash. A lot of merchants accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Take Japan and Microsoft as examples. Bitcoin will be the future of how we deal with currency.
    I wish I had a lot of bitcoin, it started with a small value and now it had grown a thousand times already, I wish I have a time machine though.
    Bitcoin is a real money, otherwise why would people are hoping to have more bitcoin.
    People wish to make a lot of bitcoin through different availability. The reason for the same is due to the value it has got, if not none would make use of it. Now bitcoin has been considered as a regulated currency by few countries, so it is sure bitcoin is a money.
    It was so much fun if the next time all countries accept Bitcoin as official
    currency in the future. But I think it's take a long time the country accept Bitcoin.
    They are still afraid of Bitcoin will beat the real money.
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    April 20, 2017, 11:31:30 PM
    yes bitcoin is an fastest and secure money untill dont anybody get you account access in this case your account will be steal.
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    April 20, 2017, 11:17:02 PM
    Yes! Bitcoin is an online currency with a monetary value on it. You can buy goods with any form of currency, be it digital or physical cash. A lot of merchants accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Take Japan and Microsoft as examples. Bitcoin will be the future of how we deal with currency.
    I wish I had a lot of bitcoin, it started with a small value and now it had grown a thousand times already, I wish I have a time machine though.
    Bitcoin is a real money, otherwise why would people are hoping to have more bitcoin.
    People wish to make a lot of bitcoin through different availability. The reason for the same is due to the value it has got, if not none would make use of it. Now bitcoin has been considered as a regulated currency by few countries, so it is sure bitcoin is a money.
    hero member
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    April 20, 2017, 10:42:40 PM
    Yes! Bitcoin is an online currency with a monetary value on it. You can buy goods with any form of currency, be it digital or physical cash. A lot of merchants accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Take Japan and Microsoft as examples. Bitcoin will be the future of how we deal with currency.
    I wish I had a lot of bitcoin, it started with a small value and now it had grown a thousand times already, I wish I have a time machine though.
    Bitcoin is a real money, otherwise why would people are hoping to have more bitcoin.
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    April 20, 2017, 10:21:57 PM
    That's a very obvious question to have here in this thread,  and if we will be going to observe the best thing about bitcoin, we can consider it exactly it's a money. It is a source of our financial support which can be use for our family needs and even for our pleasures like strolling and everything that makes our family happy. That money from bitcoin is very much profitable at all times and you can use it for investing another profitable business, which we think can gain better returns for the future.
    sr. member
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    April 20, 2017, 10:15:53 PM
    Yes! Bitcoin is an online currency with a monetary value on it. You can buy goods with any form of currency, be it digital or physical cash. A lot of merchants accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Take Japan and Microsoft as examples. Bitcoin will be the future of how we deal with currency.
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    April 20, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
    What else that money bitcoin is,it is money,whan you buy sell trade than it is money.Even gold is money whan you have gold you have money
    Bitcoin is money too but it's in different form and not the usual thing for majority of people, bitcoin has a value and if we can accumulate thousands of bitcoin we can be wealthy. For me, I will only consider my self wealthy if I will can convert that thousands of bitcoin into fiat, there is no security with as some scenario like serious bad news could make the market collapse, while if we are holding fiat we can be assure that it is stable and will not collapse or fall easily.
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    April 20, 2017, 04:50:00 PM
    What else that money bitcoin is,it is money,whan you buy sell trade than it is money.Even gold is money whan you have gold you have money

    Because it is a digital currency, and a popular one, not just because you buy sell and trade them you can consider it as a money. Do you know that Rice are used to buy sell and trade? So you cannconsider them as a money? Money is fiat, it is a physical type of the currency that ae use. They are the papers and coins that use to pay for our items.Bitcin do not have a physical coin, it is digital, and money are centralized, which is the opposite of bitcoin being decentralized.
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    April 20, 2017, 03:30:51 PM
    What else that money bitcoin is,it is money,whan you buy sell trade than it is money.Even gold is money whan you have gold you have money
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