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Quote from: lunnatic on December 14, 2019, 10:40:02 AM

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Quote from: notthematrix on December 12, 2019, 09:55:47 AM

Obviously yes, otherwise bitcoin has no more purpose, the volatility is the only reason why bitcoin is so famous.

Otherwise, people would go back to the stock market

Yeah that's the main characteristic that must be possessed by Bitcoin, the price volatility of Bitcoin is also very good as someone's trading job because traders can benefit from price volatility. I think the price of Bitcoin will always be volatile.

before the bitcoin market capitalization became large, Bitcoin will continue to experience the great volatility that it is today, many people like it but some also hate it because the capital of traders and investors loses because of that great risk

We should not hate it because its only volatility that gives us chance to buy some coins at low price and then to hold all of them. We should be grateful to the bitcoin that it makes the price down so we get chance to buy them at low price and then it rises so we get profit for selling it. We should move with market and buy some coins at low price and sell high, you really needs to change your thinking.

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Quote from: senne on December 16, 2019, 12:38:43 AM

People are of the assumption that volatility will decrease with bitcoin reaching its maximum supply of 21 million. But I doubt that. With limited supply and ever increasing demand, price will keep on fluctuating and volatility might increase rather than decreasing.

That market needs to be stable in order to see less volatility and I think it will not happen anytime soon as long as the manipulators are free to do their thing

Manipulators are there for a reason

They are free to reign supreme, roam the markets and reap the profits specifically because there is not much everyday use in cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin remains mostly a speculative asset, and it is its speculative nature that makes so extreme manipulations possible in the first place (like the whole market of the second half of 2017 was one great manipulation by Bitfinex through tethers)

However, if the vast majority of bitcoins were used as a currency, i.e. you could buy things with Bitcoin and sell things for it, such manipulations wouldn't ever be possible. There would be no fools to sell their coins below their real-life value, as well as no fools to buy above that value as the price would return to its fair value in less than no time, with orderbooks empty and most exchanges closed

Well, manipulators of market cannot be blame, this is their business, this is their way to earn money, and I think that's really the line of trading and we should be able to aware of it and we should not be easily manipulated by this, let's prepare ourself emotionally and financially once we started to join Bitcoin.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 16, 2019, 03:55:36 AM

Quote from: senne on December 16, 2019, 12:38:43 AM

People are of the assumption that volatility will decrease with bitcoin reaching its maximum supply of 21 million. But I doubt that. With limited supply and ever increasing demand, price will keep on fluctuating and volatility might increase rather than decreasing.

That market needs to be stable in order to see less volatility and I think it will not happen anytime soon as long as the manipulators are free to do their thing

Manipulators are there for a reason

They are free to reign supreme, roam the markets and reap the profits specifically because there is not much everyday use in cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin remains mostly a speculative asset, and it is its speculative nature that makes so extreme manipulations possible in the first place (like the whole market of the second half of 2017 was one great manipulation by Bitfinex through tethers)

However, if the vast majority of bitcoins were used as a currency, i.e. you could buy things with Bitcoin and sell things for it, such manipulations wouldn't ever be possible. There would be no fools to sell their coins below their real-life value, as well as no fools to buy above that value as the price would return to its fair value in less than no time, with orderbooks empty and most exchanges closed

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Quote from: senne on December 16, 2019, 12:38:43 AM

People are of the assumption that volatility will decrease with bitcoin reaching its maximum supply of 21 million. But I doubt that. With limited supply and ever increasing demand, price will keep on fluctuating and volatility might increase rather than decreasing.

That market needs to be stable in order to see less volatility and I think it will not happen anytime soon as long as the manipulators are free to do their thing. What makes crypto exciting is its unpredictability and with that, it makes the price more volatile.

Quote from: senne on December 16, 2019, 12:38:43 AM

With more people getting to know about crypto and bitcoin, the demand is set to increase. In such a scenario, trading will increase which in turn will increase the volatility as the market is highly consolidated and manipulated with no center authority regulating the same.

The number of adopters will increase because of the adoption is growing but as whales controls majority of the supply, they can shake the market anytime they wish.

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People are of the assumption that volatility will decrease with bitcoin reaching its maximum supply of 21 million. But I doubt that. With limited supply and ever increasing demand, price will keep on fluctuating and volatility might increase rather than decreasing. With more people getting to know about crypto and bitcoin, the demand is set to increase. In such a scenario, trading will increase which in turn will increase the volatility as the market is highly consolidated and manipulated with no center authority regulating the same.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on December 14, 2019, 08:49:26 PM

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The price of the bitcoin today is still volatile. Still, the price of the coin is not good enough unlike before because the price from nine thousand dollars it falls for over seven thousand dollars still this is profitable and also a good investment or to buy coins because if the currency goes up your investment will rise too, and that is profitable, but it takes a long time before you get income, to avoid this kind of scenario, it is better to make an alternative income like use an altcoin to earn profit daily and also try to invest to bitcoin because it has a low market price and use this as an advantage to earn for your long term trading.

You could say that is not enough but in my case, it gave me a lot. From a three-digit to 5, that is amazing. I know that is a long time now but it will never leave my memory how mind-blown I am at that time. Volatility might be a bad thing for others but for me, that gives the thrill. No one knows what might happen and if you think positively, the price can reach or maybe exceed the moon.

But the volatility is sometimes good for the day traders like me, the price of the bitcoin is depend on the supply and demand in the market. The bitcoin has high volatility because the demand and supply are always changing. As a day trader it is hard to manage the volatility of bitcoin but if you have a good trading setups and right skills then it is easy to handle the risks.

One of the famous transaction today is using of blockchain technology that converts the real money into digital money. One of the renowned coin today is the bitcoin; this is the highest and profitable market value among the coins created. All currencies are volatile, and many reasons how does the price affects. From the previous years of the bitcoin it has only one dollar, and many people do not pay attention to this kind of online currency, there are few investors try to put some money in bitcoin before and the price is slowly growing up today, and on 2017 the bitcoin reaches its highest value, and the investors got overwhelmed about the profit they earned on that year, they become millionaires because of the volatile of the bitcoin.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 14, 2019, 07:46:15 AM

Quote from: Shimmiry on December 14, 2019, 07:34:00 AM

The price of the bitcoin today is still volatile. Still, the price of the coin is not good enough unlike before because the price from nine thousand dollars it falls for over seven thousand dollars still this is profitable and also a good investment or to buy coins because if the currency goes up your investment will rise too, and that is profitable, but it takes a long time before you get income, to avoid this kind of scenario, it is better to make an alternative income like use an altcoin to earn profit daily and also try to invest to bitcoin because it has a low market price and use this as an advantage to earn for your long term trading.

You could say that is not enough but in my case, it gave me a lot. From a three-digit to 5, that is amazing. I know that is a long time now but it will never leave my memory how mind-blown I am at that time. Volatility might be a bad thing for others but for me, that gives the thrill. No one knows what might happen and if you think positively, the price can reach or maybe exceed the moon.

But the volatility is sometimes good for the day traders like me, the price of the bitcoin is depend on the supply and demand in the market. The bitcoin has high volatility because the demand and supply are always changing. As a day trader it is hard to manage the volatility of bitcoin but if you have a good trading setups and right skills then it is easy to handle the risks.

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Quote from: riso2015 on December 14, 2019, 07:35:44 AM

Quote from: notthematrix on December 12, 2019, 09:55:47 AM

Obviously yes, otherwise bitcoin has no more purpose, the volatility is the only reason why bitcoin is so famous.

Otherwise, people would go back to the stock market

Yeah that's the main characteristic that must be possessed by Bitcoin, the price volatility of Bitcoin is also very good as someone's trading job because traders can benefit from price volatility. I think the price of Bitcoin will always be volatile.

before the bitcoin market capitalization became large, Bitcoin will continue to experience the great volatility that it is today, many people like it but some also hate it because the capital of traders and investors loses because of that great risk

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Quote from: Shimmiry on December 14, 2019, 07:34:00 AM

The price of the bitcoin today is still volatile. Still, the price of the coin is not good enough unlike before because the price from nine thousand dollars it falls for over seven thousand dollars still this is profitable and also a good investment or to buy coins because if the currency goes up your investment will rise too, and that is profitable, but it takes a long time before you get income, to avoid this kind of scenario, it is better to make an alternative income like use an altcoin to earn profit daily and also try to invest to bitcoin because it has a low market price and use this as an advantage to earn for your long term trading.

You could say that is not enough but in my case, it gave me a lot. From a three-digit to 5, that is amazing. I know that is a long time now but it will never leave my memory how mind-blown I am at that time. Volatility might be a bad thing for others but for me, that gives the thrill. No one knows what might happen and if you think positively, the price can reach or maybe exceed the moon.

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Quote from: notthematrix on December 12, 2019, 09:55:47 AM

Obviously yes, otherwise bitcoin has no more purpose, the volatility is the only reason why bitcoin is so famous.

Otherwise, people would go back to the stock market

Yeah that's the main characteristic that must be possessed by Bitcoin, the price volatility of Bitcoin is also very good as someone's trading job because traders can benefit from price volatility. I think the price of Bitcoin will always be volatile.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 14, 2019, 06:54:27 AM

Quote from: Visbay on December 14, 2019, 06:29:09 AM

Yeah if we want to earn from crypto we will have to invest in right time and sell at the right time but never panic. It's really important to learn about the right time to buy and to hold. If you will hold your coin it will give you profit that’s why I am trying to hold my bitcoin as much as possible. Having bitcoin in your savings is more than blessings for me.

This may seem to favor you but not all of us are like that. The first time I knew bitcoin, I started holding some and it did not go well. I am impatient that is why I failed. As you said, if you want to earn from it, better hold it as much as you can. We don't know what future holds so to ensure our profit, we hold and we keep on doing that as long as it is in the place where we don't have any profit.

The price of the bitcoin today is still volatile. Still, the price of the coin is not good enough unlike before because the price from nine thousand dollars it falls for over seven thousand dollars still this is profitable and also a good investment or to buy coins because if the currency goes up your investment will rise too, and that is profitable, but it takes a long time before you get income, to avoid this kind of scenario, it is better to make an alternative income like use an altcoin to earn profit daily and also try to invest to bitcoin because it has a low market price and use this as an advantage to earn for your long term trading.

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Quote from: Visbay on December 14, 2019, 06:29:09 AM

Yeah if we want to earn from crypto we will have to invest in right time and sell at the right time but never panic. It's really important to learn about the right time to buy and to hold. If you will hold your coin it will give you profit that’s why I am trying to hold my bitcoin as much as possible. Having bitcoin in your savings is more than blessings for me.

This may seem to favor you but not all of us are like that. The first time I knew bitcoin, I started holding some and it did not go well. I am impatient that is why I failed. As you said, if you want to earn from it, better hold it as much as you can. We don't know what future holds so to ensure our profit, we hold and we keep on doing that as long as it is in the place where we don't have any profit.

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Bitcoin price is getting more and more volatile and chances of stability looks very dim. HODLing is very good strategy but HODLing when you are getting good profit on your investment is not a good thing and must be avoided. You may sell most of your coins when you are in big plus and may keep small portion for future.

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If you took some time to study how Bitcoin is functioning and learned something about it you know that volatility is something that can't be divided from Bitcoin, it's natural part of price changing cycle.
So, there are no measures or activities that could make volatility go away. Besides, if there was no volatility how could traders be able to make their money?

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Quote from: Edraket31 on December 12, 2019, 09:49:21 AM

Quote from: Karmakid on December 12, 2019, 07:02:26 AM

Bitcoin volatility is here to stay. There is no chance for bitcoin to become stable because the market of bitcoin is not regulated by the government and the market is also open 24/7 so there is no chance to prevent the market fluctuations. To be honest, it is an advantage to us because we can trade with the movements and make at least a few percentage of return.

Yes, it will not become stable especially that we do have a lot of holders in Bitcoin, so no matter how much we aim to make it stable it won't happen, especially that there are people who are holding Bitcoin that has an impact in the price once they sold it, crypto will stay but the price will differ from time to time, so we must be ready all the time.

Yeah if we want to earn from crypto we will have to invest in right time and sell at the right time but never panic. It's really important to learn about the right time to buy and to hold. If you will hold your coin it will give you profit that’s why I am trying to hold my bitcoin as much as possible. Having bitcoin in your savings is more than blessings for me.

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Quote from: Edraket31 on December 12, 2019, 09:49:21 AM

Quote from: Karmakid on December 12, 2019, 07:02:26 AM

Bitcoin volatility is here to stay. There is no chance for bitcoin to become stable because the market of bitcoin is not regulated by the government and the market is also open 24/7 so there is no chance to prevent the market fluctuations. To be honest, it is an advantage to us because we can trade with the movements and make at least a few percentage of return.

Yes, it will not become stable especially that we do have a lot of holders in Bitcoin, so no matter how much we aim to make it stable it won't happen, especially that there are people who are holding Bitcoin that has an impact in the price once they sold it, crypto will stay but the price will differ from time to time, so we must be ready all the time.

This is the prime property of bitcoin that makes it stand out other conventional currencies and means of investments i.e. volatility. Bitcoin stability will not be supported by anyone because in this way the buying and selling will slow down and people have to wait for longer times to buy or sell it off. Undoubtedly the sudden selling off bitcoin by large number of holders makes prices go down badly.

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Volatility is the nature of bitcoin, so it is indeed inseparable from bitcoin. So that's why bitcoin is always in demand by investors,
one of the reasons is because the price of bitcoin volatility can bring profit. For now it's bitcoin looks stable because the price
movement only ranges between $ 7,000- $ 7500. But with the sideaways bitcoin price condition does not mean bitcoin volatility
is lost. Only bitcoin volatility intensity is reduced, but ahead of the halving bitcoin that is happening at mid-2020 can make bitcoin
volatility increase. Therefore many traders are waiting for a moment of increasing volatility bitcoin, in order to make a profit.

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unfortunately, bitcoin volatility is far from being over. Even this year we see too much volatility in price of bitcoin along with altcoins. This volatility is main hurdle in the main adoption of bitcoin as mainstream payment system. I fear bitcoin mass adoption won't be a reality if we keep on seeing such wild wings.

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As I see some part of people don't like stablecoins and no one has hesitated using of bitcoin because of it's high volatility. Bitcoin is amazing coin for trading, a lot of money is invested in it which includes bitcoin mining datacenters, exchanges, some services and etc. Also according to statistics, 64% of bitcoins haven't moved since 2018 that means a lot of people are holding and why? To see rise of price and bitcoin's volatility is what causes massive rise and falls that creates great moments to catch desirable price for buy/sell. So it has to stay there because as you see demand is very high.

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Obviously yes, otherwise bitcoin has no more purpose, the volatility is the only reason why bitcoin is so famous.

Otherwise, people would go back to the stock market

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