Is boxing the worst sport to bet on?

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Your reasons are quite understood as over the years I watch how opponent becomes enemies after which due to the level of corruption set by the referees but have not really placed more insight on betting in boxing as I feel it's not a fair game but then I would agree to this your statement that it's worse betting on it as let alone watching the sports isn't cool at all.
For me I prefer football and basketball so much and I can place a bet on them and get the fun and excitement when doing so.but in another aspect boxing can be a very thrilling game to place bets if one really know every strategies to ascertain that effect.

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Quote from: Frankolala on May 21, 2024, 08:51:22 AM

It is easy for corruption and match fixing to happen in gambling than in football. I have never thought of this before because I feel that boxing is free from corruption. Just as said by other members, I don't like betting on boxing, but I love to watch the match.

Football is my favorite sport which I always bet on and basketball sometimes. This is because I love these two sports more than boxing and the probability of match fixing on big club matches is very low.

Corruption and match-fixing can be done in any sport as long as there are people from the associations that are ready to take the money and sacrifice the sport for it leaving the fans to suffer because they getting some money in return for ruining the sport. However, those who know a sport very well, have always been following it and watching matches and they know the weaknesses and strengths of each player, maybe such people can be successful in placing their bets in such sports.

When we talk about football or soccer, even that isn't exempted from match-fixing and other things that are used to cheat and make a team win or lose by referees and officials. On lower level leagues and tournaments, there is a lot of match-fixing in football happening as well.

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Quote from: Oasisman on May 23, 2024, 08:50:01 PM

Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Talking about boxing corruption, it has been happening for quite a while now already.
I don't know if the boxing association have ran out of elite and exciting boxers, because it seems like the current system that they're doing is to have a boxer build up his name, fight bunch a mediocre boxer and become undefeated. I mean they are building a hype around a specific boxer by carefully picking opponents.
Now, I'm not gonna be surprised if a corruption in boxing happens in the Olympics as well.
Boxing was never the same as before, it is more of a business now rather than sports.

I could say the same for almost all sports but the thing is that for boxing it's more vivid to see how they are framing everything, it's almost as everything is now stage, telling who and who to fight. I don't know about the level at which the corruption has eaten deep into the system but am certain about one thing which is the fact that betting on boxing games is definitely a NO NO for me.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Talking about boxing corruption, it has been happening for quite a while now already.
I don't know if the boxing association have ran out of elite and exciting boxers, because it seems like the current system that they're doing is to have a boxer build up his name, fight bunch a mediocre boxer and become undefeated. I mean they are building a hype around a specific boxer by carefully picking opponents.
Now, I'm not gonna be surprised if a corruption in boxing happens in the Olympics as well.
Boxing was never the same as before, it is more of a business now rather than sports.

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Whenever is good, but it depends on the one you understand the most because different people understand but different way that is our complaint is different men have different perspective on the kind of games you should involved with so it’s not really determined anything but it is just a simple policy that it will be worked out and organized properly and organized, you can bet in boxing if you understand it , but if you don’t you will go for what you think is fine

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 22, 2024, 07:00:27 AM

You just have to pick who is the more popular boxer, and of course there are upsets, but most of the time the odd makers favored or pick the correct winner. I do agree, there are corruption here. Who wouldn't forget how the South Koreans screw up Roy Jones Jr in the Olympics?

And now we have the Sulaiman's of the WBC as corrupt as any governing body in any sports.

But still though, there are a lot of boxing fans here, with the amount of threads being open for every fight and you can see that there are a lot of knowledgeable members here as far as boxers and can predict the outcome of the fight.

Boxing may be known for how corrupt the officials are, but that won’t stop these fans not to bet in boxing. For as long as their idols are sticking to boxing, that will make them continue to bet more.

The only solution here is never expect too much in boxing because no matter how good your favorite player is, once dirty fight continues, you will never see assurance in boxing. Just bet on the amount you can afford to lose so you won’t keep regretting in the end.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

Is the justification to their own reaction hundred percent genuine, we cannot predict the way people could react, I've noticed that once there is no concession between two parties in agreement, one will try to deviate from the other and state their own reason for that, but in this case, we all know how boxing game is, this live sport event is not what we can really make a conclusion on to be the worst bet in gambling, though there are some lapses in which sometimes could be unpredictable, same as we have also had with many other sports and bets in gambling, there cant be hundred percent fairness.

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Quote from: boltz on May 22, 2024, 02:50:24 PM

In my opinion every sport that doesn't have a cashout option is awful to bet and boxing is in this category because I've had a small bet on Fury this weekend and I didn't have cashout option where his odds were low but I had no idea boxing will be this way so I will never bet again. So yea , boxing is awful to bet because of this non cashout option but this is just my own opinion.

To be honest I never bet on boxing because I don't understand it well but are all casinos like that? If so, having all casinos completely disable a cash out option on a specific sport kinds goes to show it's a bit even less fair. Because additionally to all the issues of unfair practices by corruption and unfair referees...

Suddenly it just makes fixing matches much more profitable. Maybe it's too conspiratorial. But I'd say probably not. Without fair overnight it could happen every where. But in a non team sport, by nature it's easier to fix things.

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I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

There are a lot of sportbook providers that support boxing; it's just that many people don't usually place bets on them, and in this part of the world, we focused mainly on different kinds of soccer games. Caesars Sportbook and others offer boxing as part of their sport betting.

Some of the regular casinos you know even offer betting on boxing. You can place a bet ahead of the match before the match time, just as you do on football matches. Stake is among the betting platforms that support such bets.

Since it's not something that happens on a regular basis, that's why you don't know about it, and you might also not be a fan of boxing, which could be part of the reason why you don't know so much about it.

Usually people would really be that only making some boxing bets on the time that the said fight is really that making some buzz or making up some noise on main stream media but if its not or something that do talks about those non that popular boxer then expect that there would really be less that would bet into them. As for those big fights or those known boxers then it would really be creating such noise on which it would really be just that normal that it would really be caught someones attention or into those bettors. As for beign corrupt then this is something that cant really be removed. Why? We are living in a world on which even sports industry does have that kind of corruption and its something that we cant be able to remove or avoid.

The only good thing when betting up with these kind of main big events is that it would really be unlikely that a certain fight would be rigged or fixed, not unless if we do speak or talk about
exhibition fights on which results could really be that making that upside down or simply with those upset or totally opposite on what we are expecting, even how well you do
are on making those analysis.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 21, 2024, 09:18:15 AM

I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

There are a lot of sportbook providers that support boxing; it's just that many people don't usually place bets on them, and in this part of the world, we focused mainly on different kinds of soccer games. Caesars Sportbook and others offer boxing as part of their sport betting.

Some of the regular casinos you know even offer betting on boxing. You can place a bet ahead of the match before the match time, just as you do on football matches. Stake is among the betting platforms that support such bets.

Since it's not something that happens on a regular basis, that's why you don't know about it, and you might also not be a fan of boxing, which could be part of the reason why you don't know so much about it.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

What they say about corruption in boxing is mostly true because often time we see funny decisions by the judges. This post is a good example of poor judgement in boxing. This incident was so obvious that the judges received many backlashes that prompted their decision to be reversed. See below statement from the article about what transpired. The controversy surrounding this incident was a major trend in twitter for days before it was overtaken by event.

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Rasheed floored Bastie twice in the second round with left hooks with the Ghanaian boxer going down in the corner by the ropes.

Samie tried to recover from the first knockdown to the cheer of the home support, but Idowu followed it up with some combination punches and then another left hook which sent the Ghanaian back to the canvas and out cold leaving the referee no option but to end the bout. Medical personnel rushed to the ring to revive Samie.

However, the shocker came soon enough for the Nigerian boxer and his entourage as the match commissioner who is the Ghana Boxing Authority president and announcer declared a technical draw to the amazement of all who witnessed the bout.

The Olympic decision to excommunicate boxing from their events might actually seem justified but I do not support it because I believe that instead of going that way, they might simply reform the entire boxing regulations. The introduction of technology might actually help just like the VAR in football.

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In my opinion every sport that doesn't have a cashout option is awful to bet and boxing is in this category because I've had a small bet on Fury this weekend and I didn't have cashout option where his odds were low but I had no idea boxing will be this way so I will never bet again. So yea , boxing is awful to bet because of this non cashout option but this is just my own opinion.

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Betting on sports involving human combat is,in my view,among the riskiest type of sports betting.The reason behind this assertion is straightforward and that is,the potential for manipulation is very high.It's not impossible for someone with significant resources like a reputable casino to impact the outcome by corrupting the favored participant to take a dive,or by orchestrating circumstances favoring the underdog,especially if the betting trends heavily favor one side,either favorite or underdog.

The inherent unpredictability of human behavior further complicates matters.Unlike in more regulated sports where factors like form,strategy,and statistics play a more pronounced role, the element of human variability introduces a level of uncertainty that is difficult to quantify.One can question if some of the fighters have taken adequate training,physical and mental I am talking about and they have not gotten to drink alcohol which greatly weakens their performance,something that can be impacted as I said by the reputable casino with huge funds at their disposal.

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Quote from: xLays on May 22, 2024, 02:29:19 PM

^^In short all of this sport can be rigged. Not just boxing that can sometimes be manipulated in many ways, like for example match fixing where the outcome is predetermined or point shaving where judge, referee or players alter the score to benefit some bets. Referees might also make biased calls if he got some money to make it call.

In most of them, the rigging part is always been possible. Not just from the referees but also in trades, and in any other part of any sport.

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But while these sports issues exist, I think most professional sports have strict rules and oversight to prevent and address this manipulation.

We don't know but let's say that most of them are strict but there can be some loopholes that we don't know. Or we should just say and settle that they don't rig at all because they're professional and huge amount of money is there. There is a possibility but very tiny.

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The thing that I don't really like about betting on boxing is that I can find out which players have a big winning percentage, in fact quite a lot of fighters lose on points, I still really remember the first time I placed a bet on boxing, it was my first loss in betting. After that, I never bet on boxing again because I was also quite confused about the rules and there were even rumors that referees were cheating.

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^^In short all of this sport can be rigged. Not just boxing that can sometimes be manipulated in many ways, like for example match fixing where the outcome is predetermined or point shaving where judge, referee or players alter the score to benefit some bets. Referees might also make biased calls if he got some money to make it call. But while these sports issues exist, I think most professional sports have strict rules and oversight to prevent and address this manipulation.

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Each game has its own share of corruption. You cannot stop this from happening because the root causes are so deeply ingrained in the culture and how the games have developed over time. Advertisement companies, Merchandise, TV channels hosting the shows and people who are involved with the games have always invested their money and have been looking out for their own benefits.

The soccer/tennis/cricket councils and such are having a lot of bribery which we never actually get to know of till years have passed away.

Not sure if these things influence people's betting choices on boxing games.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 22, 2024, 12:47:54 AM

There is definitely a lot of corruption in boxing. This doesn’t make it the worst sport to bet on, it’s actually the opposite because you can usually predict an outcome based on who generates the most revenue for the sanctioning organizations, boxing commissions and promoters.

It is very rare for a superstar fighter like Canelo to get screwed by a decision. It’s always the opposite and Canelo you can guarantee that Canelo will win a close decision that could have gone either way. Fighters like Canelo and Gervonta Davis also have the luxury of picking their opponents so that they will fight somebody who is easy to beat and they will look good against. Even when there are more deserving fighters that should be their opponent, they will sidestep them without facing repercussions like having their belts stripped.

For example, I follow such boxers as Usyk and Lomachanko and both they and their rivals were not seen in corruption and I have not seen anything like this in the press.Perhaps this is the case in semi-professional leagues, but in the professional league it is definitely not because the reputation is definitely worth more expensive. And take the last fights of these athletes and what a stir the bookmakers had.Boxing is a great sport for betting and a great opportunity to make money on your favorite.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

I think the worst kind of sport you can bet on in batting is esports. There, the confrontation changes so quickly that the slightest actions of the players lead to a change in forces on the battlefield.
That's probably why there are so many rumors that match-fixing is very common there.

I've watched a lot of interviews about what insider information is that even players of the highest ranks often lose on purpose, as they bet on their team's defeat.

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You just have to pick who is the more popular boxer, and of course there are upsets, but most of the time the odd makers favored or pick the correct winner. I do agree, there are corruption here. Who wouldn't forget how the South Koreans screw up Roy Jones Jr in the Olympics?

And now we have the Sulaiman's of the WBC as corrupt as any governing body in any sports.

But still though, there are a lot of boxing fans here, with the amount of threads being open for every fight and you can see that there are a lot of knowledgeable members here as far as boxers and can predict the outcome of the fight.

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