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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

I have to disagree though, boxing like any other sports is also full of corrupt organizations and I do agree that it has history of biased decisions in the past. But I doubt that boxing fans are totally going to ignore and chooses other sports to bet on.

Just like in the recent fight of Usyk vs Fury, the odds are very close, although in the fight night, it was Fury who goes as a slight favorite. Nevertheless, Usyk won in that fight as a underdog and by decision. The decision win is like 4.x odds so that is good enough for us to bet and win big despite if there is a corruption or not.

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There is definitely a lot of corruption in boxing. This doesn’t make it the worst sport to bet on, it’s actually the opposite because you can usually predict an outcome based on who generates the most revenue for the sanctioning organizations, boxing commissions and promoters.

It is very rare for a superstar fighter like Canelo to get screwed by a decision. It’s always the opposite and Canelo you can guarantee that Canelo will win a close decision that could have gone either way. Fighters like Canelo and Gervonta Davis also have the luxury of picking their opponents so that they will fight somebody who is easy to beat and they will look good against. Even when there are more deserving fighters that should be their opponent, they will sidestep them without facing repercussions like having their belts stripped.

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Quote from: boyptc on May 20, 2024, 04:54:54 PM

Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.

Exactly, any sport is prone to this kind of issue, even how popular the sport is. That's why there are some gamblers who are just betting on huge tournaments or for example in specific sports, the tournament or league is the most popular one, or some betting once the tournament is already in the championship or finals, just making sure they are safe for some match-fixing or any related issue.

Yes, the bigger ones are unlikely to have this kind of issue but they can never be safe from so called "mafia".

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Quote from: boyptc on May 20, 2024, 04:54:54 PM

Any sport can be a worst to bet on depending on the hobby you are having and also the opinion that you have based on the actual situation of their federations.

IMO, there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth that they're corrupt because there's always the hidden secret and not-so secret turn of events from the call of the referees.

They shouldn't just call on the referee but also the judge or scorers if the fight ends with an unanimous decision.

Exactly! It really depends on where do you want to place your bet, Everything seems possible,sometimes our instincts or what we expect to win can be defeated depending on the flow of the game so we can't really be complacent even if we have memorized the tactics and strategy of the party we support.

So as a bettor, you know what are the potential issues that a certain match can be with. But if you are mostly following the professional scene, you will not need that much effort with it.

But as I've said, they are unlikely to be dealt with such but you'll never know.

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What are our options? Not to tolerate but aren't fixed matches evident to all sports in gambling? We saw or hear about it with basketball, football, billiards, and the others. To clear things, not all matches are rigged; there are just some and unfortunately it will forever be part of the game. If you don't want fixed matches then better to engage with pure luck based gambling games but winning would be harder as you rely on your luck alone (just based on my perspective). Therefore, I'd probably stick with sports gambling 'coz aside from that's what I enjoy playing, it gives me a better edge to win through analysis and background checking of the players and teams on the match up.

I'm quite having a winning streak with my bets on boxing matches and that is probably the reason why I don't mind these instances. There are options to take as I've mentioned if things won't be good in sportsbetting.

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Betting on boxing and other combat sports like MMA is better than in other sports like football because you dont have so much draw results.
But the way boxing judges are working with points is corrupt and it is very hard to get honest decision from all three refs.
I watched Fury vs Usyk few days ago and this should be clean win for Usyk, not win by split decision.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

Boxing is very corrupt; in fact, I'm among the many who believe that most of the matches are fixed fights and staged, which is all planned for one person to win the game, and those who make bets in favour of someone who is already planned to lose happen to lose their money all the time.

I can't even recall if I have ever placed a bet on boxing before; maybe I might have, which I can't recall, but during my recent betting session, boxing was the last on my list to even visit. I would rather risk the money on plinko and see if it drains out, watching my luck to decide my faith, than placing a bet on some match whose outcome has already been decided.

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Haven't you see referee sometime give a team advantage over other team? cheating and manipulation in football is still happen till now. In terms of transparency, boxing is also transparent, we can count, judge and know who win if the boxer can KO'ed his opponent.

In order to reduce cheating and manipulation, you need to choose sports that didn't have any referees or someone who can control the game. F1 and MotoGP are the example of sports without referees.

You are right about that, but every gambler has their own interests about what they want to bet on. Betting on boxing may be popular among many gamblers, but personally I don't really like it. I tend to like football which makes me happy when I watch it, after all football is a sport that is my hobby.

MotoGP and F1 might be good for those who don't expect cheating, but then again it's not my thing. Likewise with other users, they can choose based on what they can enjoy regardless of any sport including boxing, football or racing.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC?

Corruption is everywhere and you can find related news regards every other sports we can also bet on. It's not an exclusivity of boxing category, unfortunatelly. It would be so much easier if we could simply consider one sport to be cursed for all the corruption, while we would be free of risks when betting on other available sports around... The fact is that nowadays nobody is safe from betting on a fixed match. Have you seen the accusations made recently inside soccer industry as well?

I believe what we can do in order to avoid being cheated is to prefer betting on reputable and main leagues of a determined sport. And even in this case you shouldn't get surprised at all if you find later the games (of part of them) were fixed. Corruption is part of the human nature since the primordial times of disobedience done by the man against God, although it seems to have been heavily inflated these days in comparison to previous periods of time.

And even those who complain about it wouldn't think twice before executing the same shady acts if they had the opportunity to do so in order to benefit themselves...

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on May 21, 2024, 02:43:47 PM

There's probably tons of this going on but I love betting on boxing. If you are a real fan and watch all the matches I think it's relatively easier to bet on than some other sports that are team sport related. It's hard trying to figure out a whole team will play. But one guy especially with different styles you can Guage who should win, or who will likely score a knock out etc.

I can somehow agree with you on this thought. If you keep following these boxers, you will have idea on their weaknesses/strengths inside the ring. So when its time for the match, you have good feeling on who will possibly win and how. Since you are comparing only 2 athletes, you can quite easily compare them not only their historical performance but their boxing style and other potential edges when they are inside the ring.

Quote from: 0t3p0t on May 21, 2024, 01:43:24 PM

The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.

You have a point on this as there were some fights who were rumoured to be rigged. But no one can prove such arrangement. Since we are only talking about 2 athletes here, it may be easier for the promoters to have an agreement regarding the results of the fight. However, this arrangement usually involved large amount of money and fans will have a hint as they can see the performance inside the ring. Well, no one will admit such agreement to the public.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

A very interesting idea, by the way. What I mean is that boxing is not the easiest sport to bet on. Even if we do not take corruption into account.
Let me explain what I mean. For example, last weekend the Usik-Fury fight took place. This is a very difficult fight for the judges. There could be a victory for any of the fighters. Several rounds could be given in one direction or the other. That is, I would not be surprised by a draw or a Fury victory. Therefore, it is very difficult to bet on such matches. If I had bet on Fury in that match, I would have been upset with the result. For example, in football or basketball everything is much more obvious, there are two teams, there is the result of their games. In boxing, everything is not so simple. There are two opponents, and there are also 3 more judges, and when it turns out to be an equal fight, the result may not be predictable

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Quote from: danherbias07 on May 21, 2024, 08:43:18 AM

There are boxers who really want to win and there are also MMA fighters that want to be a champion. So, I guess we could only rely on that. Even with the corrupted boxing associations.
I mean, we could see the real emotions of each fighter whenever they win a championship or win a game.
If it's professional boxing, I don't doubt it. But when it comes to fights that are set up by streamers and popular celebrities, I would not dare bet on those. Jake Paul for example. I have not yet bet for him or his opponent because I don't think it's worth it. It's like the WWE, you know it's scripted so I don't see any fun in that although they say it's great entertainment too. Well, that's their opinion. When it comes to betting, I'd bet for title matches or when they are fighting for their rankings.

From my opinion, I guess the boxing games are like the most dangerous games in the gamble industry because it's about physical strengths and skills all together, but this link shows me that the boxing games are not the most dangerous in the world. Any game that has to do with strength us dangerous because some kind of incidents can occur, mostly in the car rasing games. But I have a doubt that this type of games are luck based games Huh

(Might be though), because you have to know those that's strong enough to withstand the opponents then bet on the strongest. Though sometimes things happen and the person who more strong than his opponent my lose.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 20, 2024, 09:36:55 AM

Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

For me I have this mentality which I believe that every sports actually have some corruption even the most famous which I believe it's soccer is filled with lots of corruption so it's normal thing for me to hear that boxing also have their own corruption beside it was also just last year that they spotted and actually stopped the corruption scandal on one of the South America country leagues @ Brazil corruption

Well for boxing I don't really know how deep this is but wrestling is one of the sports which I hate most and I doubt any sport bookie offers selection to this type of sports especially the WWE shit show they do there.

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There's probably tons of this going on but I love betting on boxing. If you are a real fan and watch all the matches I think it's relatively easier to bet on than some other sports that are team sport related. It's hard trying to figure out a whole team will play. But one guy especially with different styles you can Guage who should win, or who will likely score a knock out etc.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on May 21, 2024, 01:43:24 PM

The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.

Fixed matches happen in all sports, but in boxing it often happen than the other sports because of some reasons,
The main thing is money, unknown boxers will not get a decent payment and many of them experience a financial issue after retiring as boxers.
Also to rank up, looking for a suitable opponent, sponsors, etc is also not easy for a boxer who doesnt have money or connections, like it or not, they have to accept a match fixing offer for the sake of their careers and finances.
Nowdays, it is better to bet on MMA than boxing, or only bet on boxing when there is a big match even though it is not a guarantee that the match will be fair.

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The only thing I am aftaid of placing bets on boxing or any other combat sports is the match being rigged. I am a fan of Boxing since we do have our very own 8 division champ and MMA is good as well but yeah I have lost my bet because of controversial decisions and that's annoying and disappointing to be honest. It will still fall into something called "a matter of luck" when it all happen in front of you.

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I guess it depends on what you mean by the worst sport to bet on. I personally wouldn't agree with that because boxing is a lot of fun to bet on. The fights aren't incredibly long so it isn't difficult to sit through the entire thing, plus there's nothing like watching someone get knocked out while earning you a bunch of money. I think given the thousands of years of gladiators and human history, boxing or MMA would be the most normalized for of gambling. It's practically programmed into our DNA at this point to see two people fighting and want to pick out a winner in advance.

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I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

The majority of gamblers prefer the sport without physical harm or attack. Although there are definitely those who bet on boxing, UFC, and kickboxing but not at the casino to bet, right?

Are you sure you've been bettin on crypto for a while? Grin

Because boxing promotions and UFC are advertised a lot on here as well and on many crypto betting sites as well. Stake.com and all major crypto betting websites do special promotions whenever there's a big fighting promotion too and will even make it a major part of their website while it's going on. For example every time I log in to stake.com I see UFC front and center.

Even the entire banner permanently representing the entire sports section of the website features 4 athletes, 3 of which are part of fighting sports:

I think that if stake does this as one of the biggest crypto casinos they must know a thing or two. Probably people are spending a lot betting on fighting sports. I don't know if from the player's part it's a wise decision to bet on such sports that have so many accusations of rigging etc.

There are only 2 threads about UFC/MMA, but even so, it's very noticeable because it surfaces every day to the top. But boxing threads in the gambling section is a lot in the forum. If he visits the gambling section, I think he would have seen those threads too.

In UFC, its only Dana that controls the athletes so he knows which one should be the champ and which can retire soon. If that ain't a one-man maffia himself, I don't know what is.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 21, 2024, 09:18:15 AM

I've been gambling here in crypto gambling for a long time, but I've never read or seen sport betting about boxing. Are there any? I'm just not sure, because what I often see in casinos are football games; what else? There is also no soccer, and the rest I have no idea about.

The majority of gamblers prefer the sport without physical harm or attack. Although there are definitely those who bet on boxing, UFC, and kickboxing but not at the casino to bet, right?

Are you sure you've been bettin on crypto for a while? Grin

Because boxing promotions and UFC are advertised a lot on here as well and on many crypto betting sites as well. Stake.com and all major crypto betting websites do special promotions whenever there's a big fighting promotion too and will even make it a major part of their website while it's going on. For example every time I log in to stake.com I see UFC front and center.

Even the entire banner permanently representing the entire sports section of the website features 4 athletes, 3 of which are part of fighting sports:

I think that if stake does this as one of the biggest crypto casinos they must know a thing or two. Probably people are spending a lot betting on fighting sports. I don't know if from the player's part it's a wise decision to bet on such sports that have so many accusations of rigging etc.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on May 21, 2024, 08:03:40 AM

Football is the best sport to bet games because it is transparent. When a team loses in football it is clear that every can see where the mistake came from that made a team to lose.

Haven't you see referee sometime give a team advantage over other team? cheating and manipulation in football is still happen till now. In terms of transparency, boxing is also transparent, we can count, judge and know who win if the boxer can KO'ed his opponent.

In order to reduce cheating and manipulation, you need to choose sports that didn't have any referees or someone who can control the game. F1 and MotoGP are the example of sports without referees.

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I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.

Wrestling specially WWF is for entertainment only meaning they are scripted so the wrestler is less risky because they are prone in accident and breaking bones , so this is different from Boxing where people and fans trying to believe that all the fight is legit but like what OPsays? there is corruption and I believe game fixing happening inside .
for this we should prevent betting for this sports first while they are reorganizing and fixing this issue for better future of boxing world.

Both of them are easily fixed although boxing is not scripted like wrestling but there also exist alot of ringing in boxing and to some extent it's far from being 100% real and not to be in the categories of real time games so it outcome when bet on is greatly volitile and only the house who are part of the game ringing will win all the time.

That is why it is important not to rely so much on your own analysis and bets since anything can happen along the line without you having to contribute Any form in determining the outcome of the game.

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