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May 20, 2024, 02:03:37 PM
#24
I am not a fan of boxing and I do not really give in to boxing games because it is not just what I would want to spend my time on. I prefer football games and racing to boxing.  Sometimes I just have this feelings that boxing games are funny to start with and here it has been exposed the shady deals going on within the boxing domain.

I would rather prefer spending my time watching table tennis match than boxing when it is obvious you already know how the boxing is going to end when some group of persons have already done their deeds to secure their interest with the fight.
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May 20, 2024, 01:59:14 PM
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That recent fight between Fury and Usyk is a good example of why you can unexpectedly lose money because most bets were on Fury and the match was pretty eve, apart from that moment when the referee decided to count him while he was still standing. It's probably that thing that gave Usyk additional points and allowed him to gain point advantage. There was no need to count a fighter who's still standing. The referee should wait for him to fall and then count.
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May 20, 2024, 01:34:43 PM
#22
Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.
I noticed this too that recently, most of the boxing matches have been happening in Saudi Arabia.

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Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.
Some cases of corruption are not that the match is fixed but that the officials have been bought over, maybe two of the ringside officials out of the three, and one of the fighters will not know. The fight goes on as normal and as usual but the officials score the fight in favor of their candidates.

There was a lot of complain after Tyson Fury still won the fight against Francis Ngannou, it raised a lot of question and aroused suspicion of corruption because to almost everyone who saw the fight, Francis looked like the winner.

In the Fury against Usyk fight, one of the judges still scored Fury the winner, even when the winner of the fight was obvious. It is suspicious.
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May 20, 2024, 12:59:19 PM
#21
I do believe that every sport has their respective indoor schemes and corruption happening behind the scenes.

Remember what happened to NBA where the Toronto Raptors player named Jontay Porter was banned for life by the NBA for alleged game-fixing and disclosing of confidential information to gamblers? According to this ARTICLE1, he disclosed the health information of his own teammates to betters and he even betted against his own team.

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Jontay Porter of the Toronto Raptors was banned for passing confidential information to bettors, match fixing and betting on NBA games, the league announced on Wednesday.
Suspicious incidents included Porter claiming illness or disclosing his health information to bettors who then laid wagers on him to underperform.

Like what I mentioned, every sport has corruption and to combat this, the national sports federation of each country must take proactive steps in order to maintain the honesty and integrity of such sport. While this may be difficult to remedy in the grand scheme of things, I just hope that it will be fixed anytime soon.


1 https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-bans-player-gambling-violations-163018068.html
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May 20, 2024, 12:58:30 PM
#20
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
Anything that has confirmed corruption in recent past i would avoid. But that doesn't mean others wouldn't have it as well. Especially 2 player match are easiest to fix, as it's less risky when there are less people involved. But yeah. This is definitely a bad sign and i wish there would be a real way to get off corruption that would be acceptable to all parties as boxing is one of my favourite sports. It's one of those sports that are easy to get into and easy to understand and relate with.
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May 20, 2024, 12:57:41 PM
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Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.

There may be political factor also on why boxing is not included in Olympics. But that is sad for boxers who are hoping to join this world event and that owed to corruption allegations, they can't participate in this historical event. Well, they can always fight inside the ring even without Olympics event, right? They have their own event anyway.

It's always politics since these organisations are no different from the mafia who always want their cut despite no involvement in certain boxing event. Sometimes they decide who is to win and who fights who because a young boxer is spilling them all. This is also happening in MMA, they even trade fighters now from other organisation.
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May 20, 2024, 12:54:22 PM
#18
This reminds me of something when I was a teeny little I used to believe that WWE was real for a very long time and then only realized my whole childhood was a total lie or at least the one sport that I used to be in participate with siblings. Cheesy

Sports became business a very long time ago, so I won't advise anyone to be a hardcore fanatics of any sport or individual because at the end of the day they get paid in millions and billions while you get nothing other than wasting your valuable time by arguing with someone who is the real goat in that sport.
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May 20, 2024, 12:46:10 PM
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Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.

There may be political factor also on why boxing is not included in Olympics. But that is sad news for boxers who are hoping to join this world event and that owed to corruption allegations, they can't participate in this historical event. Well, they can always fight inside the ring even without Olympics event, right? They have their own event anyway.

Boxers should remember, their career is not yet over even without Olympics event. This sports can withstand on its own feet, even without joining this worldwide sports event. They have their audience already, so they should not worry not getting the spot here.
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May 20, 2024, 12:45:09 PM
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Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.


Questionable decision is always an issue on physical contact sports specially if there’s a bias referee or judge. This is happening even on NBA since the mature of call sometimes based on the referee interpretation of the action done when the call is not being challenged.

I’m surprised that Olympics boxing has this kind of issue even though this is an old sports.

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You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

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May 20, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
#15
Your worries are not unfounded. It is shocking to learn that the Olympic Committee has decided to cut ties with the international boxing federation because of corruption. If such prominent international federations can be steeped in corruption, it casts a dark shadow on the integrity of other more clandestine events and leagues like UFC.

The mere whisper of corruption within fight promotions would deter any rational person from placing bets on the sport. Betting should always be grounded on sound information and astute judgment; but when signs point towards malpractice, the faith is shaken and vulnerability to losses is heightened.

If you are one of those looking at placing bets on sports such as boxing or the UFC, here are a few pointers: Dive into comprehensive research; steer clear of matches or promotions that raise an eyebrow and maybe even consider spreading your bets across other sports, those that do not have a dark cloud looming over them with corruption scandals. Moreover, always remember: responsible betting should be more than just a phrase, it should be an action taken with full awareness of the risks involved.
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May 20, 2024, 11:36:56 AM
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You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
The article raised the issue of air pollution during boxing fights. It is usual to see boxing fans crowded in sporting centres to watch these boxing fights. I think the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is concerned with the health of the people. Corruption has always been part of sports but I suspect that it is very pronounced in individual competitions like boxing. These boxers can easily compromise their integrity if they are offered more money.

There is also a high rate of corruption and racism in the officiating circle. How on earth will Francis Ngannou lose to Tyson Fury? It was clear that the Cameroonian deserved to win the game but he was denied because of corruption and some level of sectionalism.      

I prefer to bet on games that cannot be easily manipulated. Football in reputable leagues is always my first choice.
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May 20, 2024, 11:36:31 AM
#13
Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement.

We cannot pretend not to be aware of things like this and how it had been dealt with, from the way of developments and how sporting activities now have advanced, the rate of doing manipulation on gambling is being reduced to the least, because there are advanced technologies that can be use in making track to know the exact situation of events that transpired during any match, so i don't want to believe we have been having this same corruption as ever before.
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May 20, 2024, 11:28:02 AM
#12
I believe, gradually all the corrupt practices in sports we don't know of will unfold with time.

Boxing is the least I can think of, for corrupt practices to operate on because of how real it can be for us the viewers to see how the boxers end up having bruises and injuries before and after the end of each fight round. So, most fights are just stage fights for people to lose money in them. That's very interesting to note that not all UFC fights are not as real as people thought it to be.
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May 20, 2024, 11:13:11 AM
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Even at the Olympic level, the corruption has already spawned?
In pro boxing, WBO rules them all but the WBC is making a lot of changes in the game when it comes to matching fighters, not so blatant in fixing fights but obviously when they decide to prevent fights from happening because they want someone else to step in and make another fight, its often due to whose getting bigger cuts. 

Right now they have found a way to bring the fights in Saudi Arabia because the oil kingpins can pay millions just so they see gigantic people rumbling in the ring. The boxing organizations seem to be united on this.
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May 20, 2024, 10:59:34 AM
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It is not the worst but it is one which is easy to corrupt, and humans will try to corrupt anything that is corruptible. Boxing is better than it was 25 years ago, but still has a long way to go to achieve the level of professionalism that is needed for a sport.

For one, I hate how anyone can cross into boxing. You do not see that with any other sport out there. If there is no determined path of entry and emphasis is focused on profits, so if any celebrity with millions of followers wants to transition into it, they are given a pay per view match, and it is marketed as the biggest match of the year, while an average boxer gets at most 2 matches a year which barely gets any coverage.

Blocking the holes will be difficult, but it is doable.

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May 20, 2024, 10:51:26 AM
#9
I don't pay much attention to boxing because it's not my favorite sport so I often skip betting on it, but with the failures due to corruption in this field, it's not unusual for me to see in some football cases that there is always news of the mafia behind to arrange matches.

Yes if there is news like this then many people will make bets because this has been arranged by the mafia behind it but I hope it can all be addressed properly because this is a big sport that is much favored.
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May 20, 2024, 10:49:34 AM
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Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade

Boxing is both a very money sport and a very subjective sport (where there is a lot of room for bias) so it is not surprising that it is riddled with corruption. By the way, I don’t think that things are much better in Olympic boxing; there were also many scandals when a boxer who actually lost the fight was named the winner. I don’t know the background to this conflict, but from the outside I can suggest that this is a fight between corrupt officials  Grin
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May 20, 2024, 10:42:21 AM
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Recently I read that a year ago the Olympic committee cut its ties with the International boxing federation due to corruption and unfair referee placement. It has been a year since and the boxing federation has still to fix these issues. Now boxing is threatened to be completely left off schedule from the Olympics for the first time in the history of modern Olympics!

It really makes you think, if the international body of boxing is so corrupt, can you imagine the corruption that would be going on individually promoted events and closed leagues as the liked of UFC? Makes me think that fighting promotions and especially boxing should be avoided if you want to make bets.

You can read a relevant article about the Olympic news here: https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/04/04/en-tinju-terancam-didepak-dari-olimpiade
Corruption is not a strange thing in my opinion, because this happens in the leagues in my country, even if it is small, but for the international level it is really disappointing and we will anticipate them to be watched, if there is such corruption in the international league it will give a decrease in trust, especially to gamblers, this kind of thing has the possibility of matches being manipulated by the committee, I think there needs to be clear and strict rules for the organizers.

Especially in privacy, it will harm the gamblers if there is engineering and sponsors of fair gambling will close the match on boxing betting, but indeed if the prize and the match do not include many people it will be easy to manipulate, and a handful of people play cheats to get victory.
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May 20, 2024, 10:29:27 AM
#6
I don't pick interest in boxing like I do with football and basketball as part of sport games to bet on, at least with football and basketball I can easily predict the game and if luck be on my side, I will win such bet, but boxing on the other hand look not real to me and that made me to accept with what you said about the possibility of game fixing in boxing so for that, if you bet on such games you have low or no chances of making the right predictions before even any attempt to win the bet.

Just like wrestling which is also outlaw from international Olympics, due to match fixing and unreal events boxing play out in such manner too, for that we as sport bettors must come to term with the reality and try to save our bets by only betting on real sport games.
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May 20, 2024, 10:15:37 AM
#5
I know of the entertainment with WWF but not boxing and now news about the fun game and arranged fight is beginning to enclose that sport that looks like serious fighting sport. I don't know if we are still going to see that in kick boxing, rugby and other physical games. I have not bet on boxing but I sure like the fight because it looks serious and now that the corruption is getting into public space, it may begin to get discouraging.
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