Topic: Is capitalism killing morality in the name of the law? - page 4. (Read 697 times)

The pornographic industry isn't the same as prostitution. Those in the industry see themselves as actors (and that's rightly so) because it's a movie industry. We can safely refer to prostitution as an exchange of sex for money. In porn, actors get paid for their roles just like others in other movie sects (be it soaps, sitcoms, horror movies, religious etc) and not that they're exchange sex for pay.

Yes, I think capitalism has actually corrupted morals more than any other pattern of government; be it feudalism, socialism or communism. Of these I mentioned, capitalism is the worst. This is one of the major dislikes of democracy.

IMO, ethical concepts still exist and are considered very important in society. However, the application of legal provisions to control unscrupulous activities such as loan sharking or prostitution is necessary to protect the interests of consumers and prevent violations of the law. The imposed laws of capital may contribute to business practices, but that is to ensure fairness.

I disagree with porn industry being a modern counterpart of prostitution. They both are different niches of the global adult industry.
Usury is the illegal process of financially exploiting people, who borrowed money from the loan sharks. Banking has little to do with financial exploitation. Certain businesses like prostitution and gambling have to be regulated by the law, instead of being declared as completely illegal.
Making those businesses completely illegal would be a step in the wrong direction. Just like the dry regime in the USA back in the 20th century.
The mobsters would expand their crimes just because certain activities are banned. The majority of the people don't have very high morals by default.
 

I think that's the same thing, with the products issued by the capitalists will indirectly shift civilization or era, because people's focus of attention races on what they watch every day, especially today their products are directly knocking on the door of the house both in banking loans, watching movies, and products ringing through your cell phone every day.


Yes, of course they are accomplished capitalists who are already very big, of course they are able to take advantage of existing regulatory loopholes, maybe they even take action to break the rules because no one dares to go against them. They always have a way, even when the regulations are strict, the capitalists will try to show expanses of money to policy makers to protect and cover their goals from the public, so that some of them make transactions either in political transactions or directly for the continuity of their business. But what is clear in my mind is that they are capitalists who do not pay attention to morality because their orientation is profit.

Why do some people think they can touch such complicated subjects and with two phrases voila, they've overcome definitions of things that thousands before them couldn't? I just woke up with this idea, I've solved a millennium of enigmas!



Immoral for you, not immoral for others.
Again, seems like you really need to go and explore the world outside your hometown cause prostitution is legal in a ton of countries, another mistake is that you think porn is more regulated than prostitution, this is just hilarious.


You probably don't understand what capitalism is.
Prostitution exists even in countries that aren't capitalistic regarding economics, loan sharks existed way before any kind of depiction of either capitalism or socialism existed, and more importantly, the so-called moral concepts of one person don't apply to another. If you want to understand how the world works the first thing you need to do is stop trying to impose your view on others and see how they view your own principles and so-called morality.

Btw, why are you investing in BTC
So you could make money doing nothing?
If you ask some random people on the street or way better in a church or mosque, that's highly immoral of you!

Oh, more on the topic
How did you buy those coins? Maybe, with capital?


Because they are brainwashed with propaganda that US=Capitalis and that the US is evil and capitalism is a tool to make everyone the slaves of the USA? Out of 100 people who shout death to capitalism, 99 don't even know what capitalism is, there are some of them that think it's a party or a movement, they associate it with a country, with politics, with everything failing to understand what deep roots it has in human history.
Capitalism was something normal for millennia it's communism and a planned economy that are the aberrations in our history.

The interest getting for the money is against the Muslim religion,But due to huge financial problems.The Muslim also taking loan to solve their economic problems.It doesn’t mean,they do against the Religious Ideology.The have get away from the convective ideology of the religion and get into the modern thought.Incase you are going to do your sibling marriage,your father depends on you for the money.But you don’t have any money in the savings,So you are forced to take some loan to help your father and your brother.So at such things, you are worked ethically then a Moral.

The woman was soulmate of man and depends on the man incomes.But most of the man not treat their wife equal and give him full money of their expenses.When the woman need money for their own survival and their children education,the woman are forced to do prostitution.It’s against the moral and it’s not against the ethical one.In such situations,woman are forced to use that option to get away from the situation.

The only solution for first one is we should have a savings at all stage to get away from the economic situation like marriages.Every man should take care of their family and his woman to avoid of prostitution by his woman in the society.

I do not understand why a lot of people are really angry about capitalism even though the capitalists are the brains of the civiliazation. They called the brains for a reason, they are the ones who build schools, they are the ones who provide jobs, they are the one who provide foods, they are the ones who build houses, they are the ones who build gadgets, they are the ones who invent new technologies and they are the one why we have now a good, safe and positive environment. It really doesn't make any sense to see a lot of people who see capitalism as bad even though they got benefited by the capitalist people. They do not have jobs to earn money if there is no capitalism, they cannot provide to their family if there are no capitalist. There are a lot of benefits and advantages of capitalism and people are usually not looking on this but to loss for the disadvantages. The things is, we should see the world with abundance and prosperity if we want to have a good and better life. Avoid thinking negative and avoid saying negative things to ourselves and to the people around us.

I think all professions that we think are not right can be justified by the legal basis or the government that regulates them.
I remember that a small ban on playing games can make you worse, they said, but when Covid happened in 2020, WHO advised us to play games, so basically they are happy to change it according to their interests.

Even before, prostitution is already considered a job to earn money. So we can't say that capitalism is involved in making businesses like this. We're all aware that we people have a lust side where they found it as source of income by paying for your body. But from this era, it evolves to online which is onlyfans account where they can be safe at home. If it doesn't pay well then people wouldn't sell their morality and dignity. But from these days capitalism involved could guarantee your safety unlike doing your job alone.

But there should also be no political system to discuss this, a question that is complex and cannot be answered simply. However, some people are of the opinion that capitalism can use the law to protect their interests and sometimes to the detriment of morality and fairness. For example, some companies may take advantage of loopholes in the law to avoid responsibility for the environment or for their employees. However, not all capitalists are like that, and laws can be used to protect morality and equity if designed and implemented properly.

There is the famous saying that prostitution is the oldest profession in human history, so in our past people must have tried to regulate it for a long time already. In my country it's legal too and is nothing evil, because it gives better protection for the workers. If something is illegal it doesn't mean people won't do it, it's just that it will be hidden from the law. Capitalism isn't really at fault here because it has been around much longer than we have capitalism. Same goes for banking, the concept of borrowing and lending money has been around for hundreds of years. It's much older than capitalism and we can't blame it for all the evil. How are we being killed by capitalism? I think that in a military dictatorship many more people are getting killed by the regime.

i personally couldn't relate to that but I have somehow few ideas that comes to my mind when we talk about usury. usually those who conduct it (lenders) are oftentimes called loansharks as far as I know and yes it's true that it is an not a right thing to do. it is also true that you can choose not to choose that option, but there're some instances that some debtors will cling to that as their last resort, and it is not someone's fault since both parties agreed the terms either written or verbal agreement. there are also cases in which lenders will just raised the interest unreasonably and immediately without further notice but most of the times the first scenario is quite common.

as far as I am concern also, prostitution is one of the oldest jobs here in the world and no matter what we do, it will always be part of our history. yes it is immoral and I do agree that there will always be someone who will choose being capitalistic even if it means they are stomping their own dignity. you can even see them on podcasts nowadays about this adult film actors/actresses being proud of their ideals which is immoral. i also personally dislike those ideas i'd prefer gamble my money than paying for those things even if they say it's for the sake of "entertainment".

Lending services has always been there, capitalism didn't invent it nor did it force morality ton suddenly disappear with it being regulated. In fact it simply helped in creating a centralized system around it imo, and as long as the larger majority is ok with it, that would be how the norms of society shall view it as well.

Same with the porn industry. Society developed, and the same could be said with societal norms. I'd agree in some sense that capitalism has changed our and society's mindset to what it is now,  but the same could be said for anything else really. It's not the sole factor involved. Heck you can actually say that the norms were already changing, capitalists simply took advantage of it and say, hastened it's development for their profits.

Usury and prostitution are not a creation of capitalism. Even in socialist economies, these two professions exist and they are as old as man. Capitalism has its merits and demerits. One of its most profound advantages is that it promotes competition which reduces exploitation by monopolists. While it's demerit is that some capitalists pursue excess profit when they have the opportunity without considering the plight of the masses.

Capitalism is not killing morality but morality is dying because of greed and selfishness. Even in the so-called socialist societies we still see corrupt leaders embezzling the perceived commonwealth,  while the people live in poverty. Collecting loans from banks with interest is not wrong because it could be used to start or expand a profitable business. Porn is technologically advanced prostitution created because of the advancement of science and technology and not capitalism.

Prostitutions? They are artists in that field. They are simply being paid huge amount and contents are with their consent so I cannot call it prostitution. Capitalists are simply making use of every opportunity that will be available on their sight and I doubt that crosses moral ideologies
. Morality in the first place is a behavior which is acceptable to the society, right? As governed by laws, ofcourse they won't allow contradictions. They have basis whether to allow something or not. Your example as well is vague; from a field or profession to banks, then government regulation?
To how I view this topic; morality, belief, and culture evolves through years, if this is your concern.

No. Capitalists don't really have that kind of power to defy social norms of their times. It's the social norms that change with time. Your examples don't show "capitalism destroying morality", it shows that religious morality is weakening in some parts of the world. Capitalism just makes use of the new opportunities.

But a new kind of morality is also being established. What some people call "wokeness" and "cancel culture" is just a modern secular morality based on ideas of tolerance and defending those who are perceived to be oppressed. So large companies cut ties with those who publicly make hateful remarks towards certain groups, even if it means that the company will immediately lose revenue, because not doing this could cause even larger revenue loss due to reputation losses. But 30 years ago they weren't doing any of that because society had different morals.

It is not a new thing that prostitution is an immoral behaviour that has been practiced long even before I was born. The fact that morality is killed due to capitalism is true, but the truth still remains that no one is forced into it. People involved in prostitution have the right to their own lives, and the law only has a few regulations that humans should abide by, but being immoral in your behaviour is a choice.

Social values generally differ in different societies and can change with the development of time. There are many things that were considered immoral in the past but are now part of our lives.

These moral values you're talking about have been killed by the capitalists who have taken over the governments and made them make laws that make these things legal, without the capitalists controlling the government they can't pass these laws in society.

But even a society that rejected such things as immoral in the past, today gladly accepts them because they have brought prosperity and wealth to the people.

money and morality, in most cases, are incompatible. After all, there is the proverb "Money doesn't smell. This proverb reveals the relationship between money and morality. Modern society increasingly adapts the morality of society to the morality of money, unfortunately.

Usury is strictly prohibited in some parts of the world, particularly in Muslim-majority countries. However, the introduction of the banking system lending service has aided many people in a variety of ways, but the perception of its illegality has not changed.


A higher percentage goes to those regulatory bodies in order for the porn industries to be regulated by law. In my opinion, this has done more harm to the moral conduct of the society, but it can’t be stopped because it is regulated by high government officials, who stand to benefit from it as well.