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Quote from: Dimitri94 on November 01, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

Generally, when the global financial situation is good, there is a positive movement in all types of business, including the stock market of different countries. But the crypto market always behaves differently. As we saw in covid-19 when all types of financial institutions went bad crypto was bullish state.

You probably didn’t know what really happened to crypto when Covid-19 first hit hard the global economy. Bitcoin price plummeted from 10K to 3K level that time. Bitcoin just recover quickly than the rest of the global market due to the news of institutional investors entering crypto market.

But in general, Bitcoin is still affected on what’s happening on the global economy it’s just Bitcoin is so resilient which FUD doesn’t last longer and the hype is very strong to push the price quickly in upward movement.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

Generally, when the global financial situation is good, there is a positive movement in all types of business, including the stock market of different countries. But the crypto market always behaves differently. As we saw in covid-19 when all types of financial institutions went bad crypto was bullish state. Again the current situation is exactly the same. With the effects of the current war and inflation seen in the world, the reports of all financial institutions are not good, but cryptos are on the bullish side. We may soon see a bullish movement in Bitcoin. As we look towards the Bitcoin halving event towards the end of next year, there is a lot of excitement among investors which is a positive aspect. Hopefully we'll soon see Halving move towards a major bull market and the upcoming bull market is going to be a significant event for Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Quidat on October 30, 2023, 04:17:33 PM

Quote from: rodskee on October 30, 2023, 01:49:48 AM

If you can carry Holding long time there is no need to doubling your investments
Because your funds will make its way to multiplier even how many than just doubling and also why bother to
add more when you are safer and contented in how much you are going to risk? remember that this market
is about risk and trust and also what we keep telling newbies to "Invest what you can afford to lose"
so why need to add more ?

another thing is that you don't know where is the right timing , so buying one time big time is for me the most appropriate and
more favoring still.I bought mine last year (though i still have some sitting in my wallet before that purchase) but I kept holding
and waiting for the perfect timing to sell them all, maybe in the next bull run effect that will settle late part of 2024 or
the last early quarters of 2025.

We know that people wont really be just that easy trying out to make x2 with their holdings but this is actually that we would really be normally be asking for more on which it is really that a common approach and which we know that there would really be people who would really be preferring on choosing altcoins rather than on sticking with Bitcoin basing up on the multiplier that they could get
then it would really be just that a normal approach that they cant really be able to possibly get with holding on Bitcoin alone but there's no doubt that when it comes to assurance then we can somewhat really that trust up to Bitcoin which we know that confidence is really there.

Doubling investment with Bitcoin? Yes, its possible and could be achieved or even more but doesnt mean that you would really be just limiting yourself into a single investment on a single coin.
You could really always have the option and choices whether you would really be considering other stuffs as well like altcoins or other projects which you do
seem for it to have the potential then you could really be having the choice.

let them stay in altcoin and besides it is their money mate and we have no power against them so if that is
their decision then be it, but mine? I only have some few of it that i tried to use as diversifying strategy,like what have said , there is
no problem if we are to double our investment but the question is that are we ready for sideways? because there are no complete
assurance here mate so why need to double when you can invest what is available and not requiring how much.take your chance
at any time you wanted and how much you wanted.people here keep digging to tell OP to double his money but are we really there
to double ours? I don't have to because I already had mine and waiting for the dragon to take over the market.not just bull lol.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 30, 2023, 12:45:36 PM

Why do you have little faith though? did Bitcoin already failed to reach new all time high every 4 years? I will have doubts as well if we have somewhat didn't see a bull run in 2020-2021, because of the pandemic, so obviously you are already proven wrong with your argument.

From which part are you implying that I've little faith in Bitcoin? My point is simply that the $50,000 mark isn't that far from our current price and is a very likely and realistic price to meet in the few upcoming months.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 30, 2023, 12:45:36 PM

Yeah, and just like when you posted this thread, suddenly the price went on a spike, reaching as high as $35,150 and then we are trading on $34,310. Not to rub it in, but Bitcoin proves it's doubters again, sorry to burst the bubble to you OP.

What bubble are you bursting? There's no bubble to burst, nor did I ever imply that I'm another doubter of Bitcoin; I wouldn't be here if I were one. I don't understand how you're claiming such a thing when I'm nowhere close to implying something like that.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 30, 2023, 12:45:36 PM

And let's just wait till the bull run in 2024-2025 and see how big it will be. Just for the record, the lowest low is $15,500. And with the current price, we are almost 130% from it, meaning if we have bought at that price last year and continue to do DCA one year later, we should be in the profit right now. So in the next bull run, the returns could be higher than we expected, just saying.

I never mentioned that the lowest is $25,000, but that the nearest low of a few months is approximately there, which is still a decent price for those who missed the opportunity to buy at $15,000 or $20,000 in terms of investment capabilities, and $50,000 is a pretty viable target within 2024.

Quote from: Rabata on October 29, 2023, 11:46:42 PM

The current global economic situation is certainly not good. With two major wars going on at the same time, it is highly likely that economic institutions will not fare well. We also often hear about the bankruptcy of various financial institutions. In particular, the condition of the banking system is not very good. But the positive thing here is that since Bitcoin is a decentralized asset, people are trying their best to convert their wealth into Bitcoin. As a result, the demand for Bitcoin is also increasing massively. If a person loses confidence in keeping slowly building wealth in traditional platforms then Bitcoin is a suitable platform where you can invest your wealth safely against inflation. In the current scenario, Bitcoin price is rising and will continue to increase, we expect bitcoin price will surpass the previous ATH in the next year.

Apart from the ongoing wars themselves, I'm mostly worried about a new potential energy crisis. We already had a rough one after COVID-19 and the Ukrainian War, and the battlefront in the Middle East certainly isn't helping.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 30, 2023, 07:25:34 PM

I personally doubling investment will not be that easy, I even have my share of doubt whether the future market when bullrun arrives could truly regain the all time high, after all its really high all time high we got here with bitcoin because the market was previously invested heavily by many big companies that willing to invest millions into bitcoin including tesla.
now that many has withdrawn it might be quite difficult, but there are indeed still many companies putting millions for their investment diversification even more so from investment company that manages investment funds.
but i still accumulating in case new all time high will be reached then that will be massive investment returns because if all time high passed, it will be massive gain from the very bottom a few months ago.

Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is a very risky investment and if you have doubts that you cannot double your account investing here, I think you should not invest in bitcoin. I don't mean to attack you, and what I want to say is, since we took a risk by investing in bitcoin, we should have bigger goals than doubling or tripling our investment. The risks we take when investing in this market are huge and we need to get the rewards we deserve. If you expect your investment to double, there are many other investments that do the same and are safer. Don't hesitate, set yourself a bigger goal and believe in bitcoin.

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Quote from: GideonGono on October 20, 2023, 06:39:48 PM

I think we should stick to investing only what we could afford to lose, when it comes to investment specially in crypto we all know how volatile it is.
I know that most of us have a big expectation to the next halving but for me right now I wouldn't tighten my budget just to invest more than I could.

Maybe OP is capable of doing such so let him be , but this is not a general advise as the more you double is the more you risk, it may be easy if you are for longer time of investment because you may choose time when to sell.
but if you are something like holding only for a year or so then did not find the perfect timing to invest? then you are for sure a loser.
investing what we could afford to lose is correct but sometimes we can also invest those we cannot afford but we must be willing to hold for long term.
i have learn buying each time i have funds no matter if it is dumping or climbing but separated for my short term investment and my long term because I divided my folio in two parts.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 30, 2023, 07:25:34 PM

I personally doubling investment will not be that easy, I even have my share of doubt whether the future market when bullrun arrives could truly regain the all time high, after all its really high all time high we got here with bitcoin because the market was previously invested heavily by many big companies that willing to invest millions into bitcoin including tesla.

we are both having that thought in this because in reality we have seen how much increase the price each Halving and we witnessed how strong the market can find , but the problem is that Sideways may change so never
expect too much like what OP telling us , because what if you double your investments then the price did nothit ATH and your capital is almost same as your outcome?
that may be so sad for you and will wait for another halving .

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now that many has withdrawn it might be quite difficult, but there are indeed still many companies putting millions for their investment diversification even more so from investment company that manages investment funds.
but i still accumulating in case new all time high will be reached then that will be massive investment returns because if all time high passed, it will be massive gain from the very bottom a few months ago.

let go of those withdrawing their support because surely once the increase continues to come those people will come back and invest all their assets.
and truly best to accumulate more and more while it is very cheap .

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I personally doubling investment will not be that easy, I even have my share of doubt whether the future market when bullrun arrives could truly regain the all time high, after all its really high all time high we got here with bitcoin because the market was previously invested heavily by many big companies that willing to invest millions into bitcoin including tesla.
now that many has withdrawn it might be quite difficult, but there are indeed still many companies putting millions for their investment diversification even more so from investment company that manages investment funds.
but i still accumulating in case new all time high will be reached then that will be massive investment returns because if all time high passed, it will be massive gain from the very bottom a few months ago.

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Quote from: rodskee on October 30, 2023, 01:49:48 AM

If you can carry Holding long time there is no need to doubling your investments
Because your funds will make its way to multiplier even how many than just doubling and also why bother to
add more when you are safer and contented in how much you are going to risk? remember that this market
is about risk and trust and also what we keep telling newbies to "Invest what you can afford to lose"
so why need to add more ?

another thing is that you don't know where is the right timing , so buying one time big time is for me the most appropriate and
more favoring still.I bought mine last year (though i still have some sitting in my wallet before that purchase) but I kept holding
and waiting for the perfect timing to sell them all, maybe in the next bull run effect that will settle late part of 2024 or
the last early quarters of 2025.

We know that people wont really be just that easy trying out to make x2 with their holdings but this is actually that we would really be normally be asking for more on which it is really that a common approach and which we know that there would really be people who would really be preferring on choosing altcoins rather than on sticking with Bitcoin basing up on the multiplier that they could get
then it would really be just that a normal approach that they cant really be able to possibly get with holding on Bitcoin alone but there's no doubt that when it comes to assurance then we can somewhat really that trust up to Bitcoin which we know that confidence is really there.

Doubling investment with Bitcoin? Yes, its possible and could be achieved or even more but doesnt mean that you would really be just limiting yourself into a single investment on a single coin.
You could really always have the option and choices whether you would really be considering other stuffs as well like altcoins or other projects which you do
seem for it to have the potential then you could really be having the choice.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

Why do you have little faith though? did Bitcoin already failed to reach new all time high every 4 years? I will have doubts as well if we have somewhat didn't see a bull run in 2020-2021, because of the pandemic, so obviously you are already proven wrong with your argument.

Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

However, I tend to have a more pessimistic and down-to-earth approach to this matter. Bitcoin's current price is ranging from $27,000 to $28,000 as we speak, while we will also occasionally see it as low as $25,000. With that being said, in my opinion, sometime after the halving, the scenario of Bitcoin surpassing $50,000 doesn't sound too impossible to me. Thus, if we suppose that someone purchases Bitcoin now, approximately within a year, he or she may be capable of doubling their initial investment.

Yeah, and just like when you posted this thread, suddenly the price went on a spike, reaching as high as $35,150 and then we are trading on $34,310. Not to rub it in, but Bitcoin proves it's doubters again, sorry to burst the bubble to you OP.

Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future? And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.

And let's just wait till the bull run in 2024-2025 and see how big it will be. Just for the record, the lowest low is $15,500. And with the current price, we are almost 130% from it, meaning if we have bought at that price last year and continue to do DCA one year later, we should be in the profit right now. So in the next bull run, the returns could be higher than we expected, just saying.

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I'll take that double than expecting too much which could just also cause a big dump afterward.
I am expecting Bitcoin to go until $40k when ETF arrives and then the halving boosting it more at $45k. That's it and I will be happy to see Bitcoin making that number as its new bottom because there will be the ETF that could help prevent it from going down again.
Those profits cannot be received in other investments and it's not like it will take long before that happens. It's so soon that many got excited and purchased earlier which could be the reason for the increase in demand and value of the said coin.
IMO, it's difficult to be in a position where I will regret it again with not riding the pump. All those who bought earlier are super lucky especially when Bitcoin was still in $16k in December of 2022. A year of patience is worth it now and there's a chance the profits might go higher.

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If you can carry Holding long time there is no need to doubling your investments
Because your funds will make its way to multiplier even how many than just doubling and also why bother to
add more when you are safer and contented in how much you are going to risk? remember that this market
is about risk and trust and also what we keep telling newbies to "Invest what you can afford to lose"
so why need to add more ?

another thing is that you don't know where is the right timing , so buying one time big time is for me the most appropriate and
more favoring still.I bought mine last year (though i still have some sitting in my wallet before that purchase) but I kept holding
and waiting for the perfect timing to sell them all, maybe in the next bull run effect that will settle late part of 2024 or
the last early quarters of 2025.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future?

The reason for the high assumptions is because It's easier to achieve higher returns when a coin just gets listed onto the markets than a coin that has been in the markets for a long time, and in this case Bitcoin has been around for a while and seems to have slowed down greatly because the majority of crypto users aren't buying a whole Bitcoin because of the high price and will need investor money to push it higher.

Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.

Any investment strategies that allow for easy doubling of capital can not be found in the open,if it were this easy people would have been super rich by now.

In the case of Bitcoin, it was easy to make 5x or 10x your capital because this was undervalued at the time and it grew with demand, and unfortunately today it seems to have slowed down because price has gone up alot and will need deep pockets for the doubling to be possible once again.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 15, 2023, 07:25:03 AM

With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

The current global economic situation is certainly not good. With two major wars going on at the same time, it is highly likely that economic institutions will not fare well. We also often hear about the bankruptcy of various financial institutions. In particular, the condition of the banking system is not very good. But the positive thing here is that since Bitcoin is a decentralized asset, people are trying their best to convert their wealth into Bitcoin. As a result, the demand for Bitcoin is also increasing massively. If a person loses confidence in keeping slowly building wealth in traditional platforms then Bitcoin is a suitable platform where you can invest your wealth safely against inflation. In the current scenario, Bitcoin price is rising and will continue to increase, we expect bitcoin price will surpass the previous ATH in the next year.

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BTC has excessive volatility beyond almost any other market so yes is the answer to the question. Your normal estimates and weighting to your expectations are inaccurate, this market is substantially different to any other. You are more likely to double then it appears, partly you could phrase this as events beyond the horizon have a greater velocity then we can perceive or view directly at present.
The bears or negative view of BTC some have would also like to state for balance in all fairness that BTC has greater risk of going the other way, some think it can and will go to zero and this is a far more probable outcome then expected by participants. I might disagree personally but I'll take that point as fair in terms of balance and statistically this is an erratic market so their view of destructive markets destroying themselves in some way sooner or later is how they view BTC. I view it as wildly bullish but patience will be tested, I expect more negative is still ahead and possible.

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Although I am not saying that $100,000 per BTC is impossible to achieve, but in reality it may have a very slim chance depending on the next big hype that is going to happen like what Elon Musk did last 2021.

But in my own instinct. I think there wouldn't be someone who can do much bigger influence than Elon Musk did last time during the days where BTC almost reached $70k.

I have yet to reach x2 of my BTC investment as I still have long ways to go since I've done DCA for most of last year. I am aiming for a specific target price before selling. Once it pulls back, I will be setting my specific buying position as well.

The crypto market will always have the final say as their movement is not in our control. Even if we are that skilled in predicting, reading the charts, technical analysis, etc., it won't be perfect as there will be unexpected happenings along the way.

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I don't consider my investment goal to be doubling my money, but rather a return on what I have invested. That's the profit I expect from this investment, but I don't have a definite target when I will take this profit. If the price of bitcoin can reach x2 in the next few months due to halving factors or so on, then maybe I will take some of the profits and keep the rest for a longer period of time.

So far I've consistently accumulation as much as I can, but I only plan to do it until the halving. If the price of bitcoin during the halving has reached $50k, then I will stop accumulation and wait for the best moment to take profits. This is just a plan, but it may still change should the price of bitcoin not exceed $50k at the halving.

You can expect to double your investment returns when you invested earlier at a very affordable price, that is when bitcoin is still at its $20k or below. When bitcoin halving is over, probably we will achieve a price that is close to the last ATH or even exceeds it. However, if you invest just months ago, then I suggest to stay practical on your expected investment returns. As long as you are seeing small profits, regardless of its amount, that is still a profit so you have to take part in selling your coins so you can also enjoy those little profits.

But if asked if you have to sell everything in your portfolio to achieve maximum profits, I believe its your own decision already. No one will manage your investment but only yourself. However, if you ask me, If am not in a situation that badly needs a huge amount of profits, then I will never decide to sell all my coins so I can still enjoy the future profits of my remaining investment.

Everyone is responsible for the investments they make, so if they have received their profits from the investments they have made, of course they have to decide well whether they will take the profits they have earned to enjoy or take their profits to add to the investments they have made. Yes, you are right, if we do not have a very important need then it is better for us not to sell the assets we have and leave them so we can take bigger profits at other opportunities that we will get.

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Only 179 days from now, so the bitcoin halving will happen, and it won't be long before we see. Every four years we experience a bull market and the price of Bitcoin reaches its highest peak during that time. Half a year is much less time for this halving to happen, and we can anticipate a bull market during this period and see the market at a good level. As we have seen earlier in 2021 the Bitcoin market ATH peaked at $69k, accordingly we can predict the bull market price to be above $100,000. This will be really interesting when the market will rise overnight and the bull run will start and the price of Bitcoin will continue to increase and move to this level. As we believe it is not too late today, we will see market positions soon. At this time the market is currently in the range of $35,000, and we expect Bitcoin to cross $50,000 before the halving. And those who invested during this time will surely get double profit when the market price will be five times ATH.

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More than a week into this topic, take a look at what's happening in the Bitcoin market. At the time I wrote this post, Bitcoin was trading at around $33,888. A sharp spike has just occurred, Bitcoin seems to dispel all doubts when world economic conditions are less promising.
An assumption based on each individual's personal point of view in assessing the situation and conditions that exist between the world economy and investment constraints, but all of this is still gray. Once again Bitcoin has been able to show its strength as one of the best value storage investments.
I cannot yet confirm that this spike is an early sign that a new ATH will come or that Bitcoin will return to sluggishness and then take new steps to return to its highest price next year.

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First of all, no one knows what will actually happen in the market because we are all predictors in the trading industry. And the number of people who will believe depends on whether the prediction of each trader is really valid or not, whether there is a solid basis or not.

Everything we expect comes from the predictions of other experts who we know have more experience and have a broader or deeper understanding of trading here in the crypto business. It all comes down to speculation in the end.

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