Someone just brought up a great point here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865002
Another way to look at rape is like when you have consensual sex. Nobody would say it's rape if they had consensual sex, but for some reason people seem to think differently when it is non consensual.
Topic: Is forcing a woman to have sex considered rape if the woman has an orgasm? - page 2. (Read 260 times)
March 21, 2018, 05:59:18 PM
March 16, 2018, 07:47:30 AM
once someone is forcefully engaged in sexual penetration it is rape because, this activities had being carried out without the consent of the individual even if orgasm is achieved
March 16, 2018, 07:36:52 AM
holly cow! no consent = rape. The rest is pure polemics.
let's change a bit the angle, so If I murder a murderer, would that be a murder? I've murdered someone who else would have murdered more if I wouldn't have murdered him. Doesn't sound quite right doesn't it?
let's change a bit the angle, so If I murder a murderer, would that be a murder? I've murdered someone who else would have murdered more if I wouldn't have murdered him. Doesn't sound quite right doesn't it?
March 16, 2018, 07:15:55 AM
Yes, it remains rape.
If someone steals your car, you'll get some money from your insurance, and that is a benefit, you've lost your car, and that was a theft.
If someone steals your car, you'll get some money from your insurance, and that is a benefit, you've lost your car, and that was a theft.
March 15, 2018, 03:10:12 PM
In much simpler explanation, if the victim doesn't give you any consent, then it is considered as rape.
March 15, 2018, 02:48:33 PM
It is reported that people have orgasms at times, in the throes of violent death. Is it still murder if they have an orgasm?
March 15, 2018, 12:53:29 PM
WTH? If there is no consent, then it's rape.
March 13, 2018, 04:37:48 AM
I think it is a rape if one of the involved there is displeasure to do that.
I just laugh reading the title
, everyone will orgasm even though it is coercion. Except for people who have abnormalities or impotence diseases.
I just laugh reading the title
, everyone will orgasm even though it is coercion. Except for people who have abnormalities or impotence diseases. March 13, 2018, 03:11:06 AM
It is not rape because there was a benefit from the act.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
I suppose you realise how controversial what you just wrote is...
Rape is typically defined as the absence of consent. So whether or not a woman has an orgasm is irrelevant. The relevant question is, did she consent/agree to the sexual act. If not, if there is force as you suggest, it is rape.
Then, as you said, there is the difference between statutory and non-statutory rape.
Statutory rape is where the law explicitly lays down when a sexual act is rape or not rape (perhaps even in cases where both partners consented). This is normally the case with younger children. For example, it may be rape if a 16 year old boy has sex with a 14 year old girl (if the legal age for consent is 16). Even if both consented.
I am not sure that any country legalises rape by governments but some countries do not think there can be rape within marriage.
Countries that recognise rape outside of the pre-defined parameters of statutory rape will probably focus on the issue of consent/agreement. Hence, in many countries it will not be possible for government agents to rape a woman and it not be considered as such.
Finally, "that is the price to pay"?! I completely disagree. The laws in many countries simply need to change, and to be brought up to modern day standards and values.
March 13, 2018, 03:03:13 AM
It is not rape because there was a benefit from the act.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
It is a rape if it is against your will. If you are not in a relationship and was not in favor of the act. But having orgasms means that you like what was happening physically. But then if you are mentally struggling, i'd say it is rape. The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
March 13, 2018, 02:52:33 AM
The vagina will always reproduce a liquid when being touched, its uncontrollable to women, you might as well know. It doesn't give them pleasure but its going to make it easy for a man to enjoy coming into. If its rape, its rape.
March 13, 2018, 02:42:43 AM
If you forces your way into having sex with a person then it is already considered as a rape,
You force them even if they don't want it to happen ,Even if they had an orgasm because of it ,It is still a rape.
You force them even if they don't want it to happen ,Even if they had an orgasm because of it ,It is still a rape.
March 13, 2018, 02:31:03 AM
It is not rape because there was a benefit from the act.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
Ok. Let's assume that the woman in question is your wife/mother/sister/daughter.The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
Do you still think the same?
March 13, 2018, 02:20:55 AM
If a person force someone to have sex, This action is complete rape. It does not matter horrible rapist give her or him pleasure. And also, I do not think anyone can have orgasm while they are being raped by someone horribly evil , for sure.
March 12, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
Here is a thread full of people who believe that it is only the outcome that matters...not the non-consensual act:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-taxation-theft-1732082
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-taxation-theft-1732082
March 12, 2018, 08:22:05 PM
Even better:
If you rape a woman, who then gives birth to a child that grows up and cures cancer...was it still rape?
It is not rape because there was a benefit from the act.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
If you rape a woman, who then gives birth to a child that grows up and cures cancer...was it still rape?
It is not rape because there was a benefit from the act.
The outcome is what matters in defining rape, not the act.
It depends upon how much force is used for the sex to determine if it was rape. If it was not a lot of force used then it was not rape.
If the person who raped you is bad/corrupt, then it can be considered rape.
If the government rapes you legally, it cannot be considered illegal. Rape is only the illegal act of forcing someone to have sex. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
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