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Quote from: Fredomago on February 07, 2025, 04:51:33 AM

Indeed, if you don't have that proper control you may lose everything even it's not intend to be use for your gambling, I guess the best way is just deposit the amount you can afford to let go and let the entertainment part be carry his way and not to exceed to from your set budget, you'll start pointing fingers when you lose a huge amount.

It's not a scam if you are doing it accordingly but when you start exceeding from how you percept things then it's start additional problem to the point that it will be a regretful experienced..

That is indeed the best choice but on the other hand this also needs self-control in the end because even though from the beginning we try to suppress and set the deposit amount as much as we are ready to lose but in some moments when we feel defeat in the end the fortress that we have tried to build will sometimes be broken because of the ambition we have.

Gambling is complicated, when we lose even a little bit of self-control we do then everything will destroy ourselves, previously on several occasions I always felt this way where I was very difficult to control myself when I felt defeat which ultimately led to regret because it actually lost all the money that I did not even allocate for gambling but over time there is certainly an experience that serves as one of the other encouragements to be more able to limit ourselves because if this is always done then consciously or not we actually destroy ourselves slowly.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 07, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

What do you mean by the word equivalent here? It means that it is clear that from the beginning in general everyone must gamble with money from their hard work, you yourself decide to gamble and there is no coercion or even threats from anyone including the casino that tells you to get involved in gambling, so of course it doesn't make sense if you think that the casino has cheated you just because you experience a loss with a possibly quite large amount. On the other hand, I am honestly sure that you will never think that you have been cheated by the casino if for example you managed to win, meaning that the assumption of fraud actually comes from within you because you feel disappointed and emotional because you lost while on the other hand it is clear from the beginning that defeat is part of the consequences when you are involved in this activity.

Exactly you where the one who decided to gamble with your hard earn money no one forced you to gamble, that's why they kept telling you guys to always gamble wisely by using amount of money you can easily Risk ( though no one is happy to lose no matter small the amount may seems). But risking that you can easily Risk is far more better than go all in with money that should have been use for something better even when you endup with a win there where still a chances of you losing .

anyone who cannot gamble with what it can afford to lose that person will continue to complain about gambling and the person will decide to say that gambling is a scam why gambling is not a scam, some persons does not understand the basic things of gambling and that is why they always locks their money during the process of gambling you cannot gamble with all your money you cannot gamble with whatever you have said you will Gamble with the money that is common for you so that whenever you lose it do not affect neither your business or your family.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 07, 2025, 05:32:43 AM

But is still not a scam then if you gamble more than needed Cheesy

You just get addicted, not scammed Cheesy

"not a scam when doing accordingly", but what moment gambling turns into scam then? I am really curious when will people stop thinking "losing means being scammed". People should restart their brain and stop expecting every bet to win. Stop blaming and accusing other for their own actions.

So long nobody out a gun on your head, nobody sent you a malicious link and pretend and was able to take money from you, gambling is never a scam. It's simple tricks of risk to get more money, that's how gambling work. You just have to either adapt to it or you don't but there is nothing a person can do with gambling and thinks it's scam unless you win money but they refused to pay you, or close your accounts for no reasons or just hate comments.

If you gamble and you lost, know it's your loss and if you gamble and you win, then it's your win, there are no two ways to eat and beside, gambling didn't start today, it started way back before out the internet came but some of these things has been digitalized where it's more easy and accessible for everyone but not everyone is playing the safety when it comes to gambling, some people don't have self control most especially when they see their favorite game.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 07, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

What do you mean by the word equivalent here? It means that it is clear that from the beginning in general everyone must gamble with money from their hard work, you yourself decide to gamble and there is no coercion or even threats from anyone including the casino that tells you to get involved in gambling, so of course it doesn't make sense if you think that the casino has cheated you just because you experience a loss with a possibly quite large amount. On the other hand, I am honestly sure that you will never think that you have been cheated by the casino if for example you managed to win, meaning that the assumption of fraud actually comes from within you because you feel disappointed and emotional because you lost while on the other hand it is clear from the beginning that defeat is part of the consequences when you are involved in this activity.

Exactly you where the one who decided to gamble with your hard earn money no one forced you to gamble, that's why they kept telling you guys to always gamble wisely by using amount of money you can easily Risk ( though no one is happy to lose no matter small the amount may seems). But risking that you can easily Risk is far more better than go all in with money that should have been use for something better even when you endup with a win there where still a chances of you losing .

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 06, 2025, 06:28:51 PM

If we are a person who commit to spend our money in the right way, it won't be so difficult. Something we must always do is to discipline and stick with our commitment. If we have make certain allocation for main necessities and for gambling, we don't break the allocation. We only use the money that we already allocated for gambling, kindly stop playing gambling when the allocation is over. We also must remember that we never try to take a loan because it is not the right way in gambling. If we can do this constantly, I think it won't be difficult to make some limitation in gambling. Just make it to be our habit for limiting the funds for gambling purposes.

Yes, that is what I have always said and I could sum it up as "Spend only the money that you are willing to lose.

Regarding loans, I also agree, you should not lend money to go play in a casino or make sports bets, you have to find a way to lend money as a last option and not for this, but for urgent, emergencies that we do not have the money for at the time but considering that you have to have the corresponding payment capacity, so as not to look bad with the person who does not want to help with the loan.

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Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I think gambling becomes a scam if we play only to win money, or if we consider gambling as a job... So when we lose, we will have to find something to blame... and of course, it will be (usually) the house. Gambling is a form of entertainment to get rid of boredom. However, scams can occur in gambling, such as rigged games or fraudulent platforms. That is why gambling responsibly and choosing reputable establishments with a license number are key elements to minimize risks.

Well I'm not so proud about gambling but i'll love to say it countless times that gambling is not a scam.However, it's the unregulated and unregistered casinos that operate without licenses and promiscuously manipulate games & players and also rip them of their chances of winning.
Over the years,there have recorded and staged excess scams and fraudulent activities that has replaced gambling as a scam space.Whereby this call for an effort to be wary of unreliable and deceitful gambling operators,especially the ones with unrealistic promises of high winnings/cashouts.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 05, 2025, 05:56:05 AM

Actually everything has its own risks, including in gambling. Everyone knows that gambling never guarantees the win, it even spends a lot our money. If we have no control for our emotion, we may be influenced to spend all the money to chase the wins. Or we may be triggered to gamble as much as possible to recover the losses. This is totally wrong way in gambling, this will lead into an excessive gambling. The only way is to limit control our emotion by limiting the funds and the time to play gambling games. So, it is true that controlling emotion is very important in gambling.

Controlling one's emotions is what a gambler should even test and work on before embarking on gambling. After that, you move to training yourself to always keep to the amount you have set as a limit for gambling and the time frame to spend on each day you decide to gamble, because if someone doesn't have that control in them, even setting up rules and limits to keep them on track, they will always easily break that limit themselves; it won't stand for long, especially when they get emotionally attached to the game, either due to losing or winning.

It is very important for gamblers to control their emotions and control themselves. Otherwise, gambling will seem like a scam to us. If we cannot control ourselves, we will easily lose a lot of money in gambling. There is a possibility of winning money in gambling, but the possibility of losing money is more if we are not experienced enough. We must follow some rules. If we become addicted to gambling, we will definitely keep losing money unless we are very lucky.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 07, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

What do you mean by the word equivalent here? It means that it is clear that from the beginning in general everyone must gamble with money from their hard work, you yourself decide to gamble and there is no coercion or even threats from anyone including the casino that tells you to get involved in gambling, so of course it doesn't make sense if you think that the casino has cheated you just because you experience a loss with a possibly quite large amount. On the other hand, I am honestly sure that you will never think that you have been cheated by the casino if for example you managed to win, meaning that the assumption of fraud actually comes from within you because you feel disappointed and emotional because you lost while on the other hand it is clear from the beginning that defeat is part of the consequences when you are involved in this activity.

Of course, this causes bad emotions, moreover, gambling can leave a player without money, who has been saving it for years, but the player himself is responsible for this, so there is no need to look for someone to blame except yourself. Other feelings arise, such as anger, so I am not surprised that after losing, players can write on the Internet that the casino is terrible and other things that did not actually happen to him, just to denigrate him. This is something like a protective reaction of the body to the stress of losing.

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What do you mean by the word equivalent here? It means that it is clear that from the beginning in general everyone must gamble with money from their hard work, you yourself decide to gamble and there is no coercion or even threats from anyone including the casino that tells you to get involved in gambling, so of course it doesn't make sense if you think that the casino has cheated you just because you experience a loss with a possibly quite large amount. On the other hand, I am honestly sure that you will never think that you have been cheated by the casino if for example you managed to win, meaning that the assumption of fraud actually comes from within you because you feel disappointed and emotional because you lost while on the other hand it is clear from the beginning that defeat is part of the consequences when you are involved in this activity.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 07, 2025, 05:32:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 07, 2025, 04:51:33 AM

It's not a scam if you are doing it accordingly but when you start exceeding from how you percept things then it's start additional problem to the point that it will be a regretful experienced..

But is still not a scam then if you gamble more than needed Cheesy

You just get addicted, not scammed Cheesy

You are right, mate. Anyone that knows what scam truly means, will not call gambling a scam. If gambling was a scam, then it would be banned in almost all the country. There's no gambler that doesn't lose money but yet they don't refer to it as scam.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 07, 2025, 04:51:33 AM

It's not a scam if you are doing it accordingly but when you start exceeding from how you percept things then it's start additional problem to the point that it will be a regretful experienced..

But is still not a scam then if you gamble more than needed Cheesy

You just get addicted, not scammed Cheesy

"not a scam when doing accordingly", but what moment gambling turns into scam then? I am really curious when will people stop thinking "losing means being scammed". People should restart their brain and stop expecting every bet to win. Stop blaming and accusing other for their own actions.

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Quote from: Hazink on February 06, 2025, 06:50:42 PM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 05, 2025, 05:56:05 AM

Actually everything has its own risks, including in gambling. Everyone knows that gambling never guarantees the win, it even spends a lot our money. If we have no control for our emotion, we may be influenced to spend all the money to chase the wins. Or we may be triggered to gamble as much as possible to recover the losses. This is totally wrong way in gambling, this will lead into an excessive gambling. The only way is to limit control our emotion by limiting the funds and the time to play gambling games. So, it is true that controlling emotion is very important in gambling.

Controlling one's emotions is what a gambler should even test and work on before embarking on gambling. After that, you move to training yourself to always keep to the amount you have set as a limit for gambling and the time frame to spend on each day you decide to gamble, because if someone doesn't have that control in them, even setting up rules and limits to keep them on track, they will always easily break that limit themselves; it won't stand for long, especially when they get emotionally attached to the game, either due to losing or winning.

Setting the amount to be allocated can be done by everyone, but maintaining it is the point of difficulty, I am sure everyone does not want to experience big losses in gambling but consciously or unconsciously sometimes they forget the limits that they should obey until what they do is gamble beyond reasonable limits. And with someone who does not have self-control, this allows them to be easily provoked by their emotions, it is not strange if they say gambling is a scam because they cannot accept the defeat that occurs. Gambling is basically a means of entertainment in the form of a game, it's just that this is the seriousness of some people who do it, of course, those who have the goal of being able to get profit from gambling continuously, this is ridiculous because there is no victory that can be obtained continuously.

It is different if something feels like scam and it is different if something is a scam. Nowdays most casinos are regulated and there is strict control so I guess most of renowned casinos are not scam, but if you ask the person who lost big amount of money, I'm sure he will feel cheated and try to blame casino instead of his lack of control.

And everyone should have in mind things that you said about gambling should not be means to make profit. If they forget that there is bigger risk of big losses.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2025, 04:42:10 AM

Exactly! you need to have that capability to control your emotions, as gambling always carries risk and if you don't know how to control then you'll suffer more loses, and for most of those who keep losing and become addicted they mostly blame the house there's some who pointing fingers to someone and some that accused the house that cheats on them as they are expecting to have a better result but at the end of the session they lose everything they deposit and regret such mistakes.

Actually everything has its own risks, including in gambling. Everyone knows that gambling never guarantees the win, it even spends a lot our money. If we have no control for our emotion, we may be influenced to spend all the money to chase the wins. Or we may be triggered to gamble as much as possible to recover the losses. This is totally wrong way in gambling, this will lead into an excessive gambling. The only way is to limit control our emotion by limiting the funds and the time to play gambling games. So, it is true that controlling emotion is very important in gambling.

Controlling emotion is the most important part of the gambling even in cryptocurrency trading. Both of high risky and more chances to lose your capital if you can't control your emotion, personally i am experienced a few big losses in the gambling even also in theke crypto trading, i bet with big amount in the wrong time, so i lost in the big game. Yeah, we shouldn’t bet with big capital because there no guarantee you will win or lose at end of the day.

Indeed, if you don't have that proper control you may lose everything even it's not intend to be use for your gambling, I guess the best way is just deposit the amount you can afford to let go and let the entertainment part be carry his way and not to exceed to from your set budget, you'll start pointing fingers when you lose a huge amount.

It's not a scam if you are doing it accordingly but when you start exceeding from how you percept things then it's start additional problem to the point that it will be a regretful experienced..

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Quote from: Hazink on February 06, 2025, 06:50:42 PM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 05, 2025, 05:56:05 AM

Actually everything has its own risks, including in gambling. Everyone knows that gambling never guarantees the win, it even spends a lot our money. If we have no control for our emotion, we may be influenced to spend all the money to chase the wins. Or we may be triggered to gamble as much as possible to recover the losses. This is totally wrong way in gambling, this will lead into an excessive gambling. The only way is to limit control our emotion by limiting the funds and the time to play gambling games. So, it is true that controlling emotion is very important in gambling.

Controlling one's emotions is what a gambler should even test and work on before embarking on gambling. After that, you move to training yourself to always keep to the amount you have set as a limit for gambling and the time frame to spend on each day you decide to gamble, because if someone doesn't have that control in them, even setting up rules and limits to keep them on track, they will always easily break that limit themselves; it won't stand for long, especially when they get emotionally attached to the game, either due to losing or winning.

Setting the amount to be allocated can be done by everyone, but maintaining it is the point of difficulty, I am sure everyone does not want to experience big losses in gambling but consciously or unconsciously sometimes they forget the limits that they should obey until what they do is gamble beyond reasonable limits. And with someone who does not have self-control, this allows them to be easily provoked by their emotions, it is not strange if they say gambling is a scam because they cannot accept the defeat that occurs. Gambling is basically a means of entertainment in the form of a game, it's just that this is the seriousness of some people who do it, of course, those who have the goal of being able to get profit from gambling continuously, this is ridiculous because there is no victory that can be obtained continuously.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 05, 2025, 05:56:05 AM

Actually everything has its own risks, including in gambling. Everyone knows that gambling never guarantees the win, it even spends a lot our money. If we have no control for our emotion, we may be influenced to spend all the money to chase the wins. Or we may be triggered to gamble as much as possible to recover the losses. This is totally wrong way in gambling, this will lead into an excessive gambling. The only way is to limit control our emotion by limiting the funds and the time to play gambling games. So, it is true that controlling emotion is very important in gambling.

Controlling one's emotions is what a gambler should even test and work on before embarking on gambling. After that, you move to training yourself to always keep to the amount you have set as a limit for gambling and the time frame to spend on each day you decide to gamble, because if someone doesn't have that control in them, even setting up rules and limits to keep them on track, they will always easily break that limit themselves; it won't stand for long, especially when they get emotionally attached to the game, either due to losing or winning.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 05, 2025, 07:31:16 AM

It's a difficult task but it can be done. Limiting the funds that will spent on gambling is something that must be done because this will save us some money by avoiding chasing losses. Another trick is to buy the necessary items first, pay the bills, pay the credit card debts and what's left could be used for leisure like gambling. That way we won't be afraid to lose it because we already spent the money on the important things that must be paid for and bought.
Gambling is not a scam but it eats a lot of money before it gives back, that's the case most of the time, and our frustration before it happens could lead us to make bad decisions. Spending money that is meant for important things could be a big trouble.

If we are a person who commit to spend our money in the right way, it won't be so difficult. Something we must always do is to discipline and stick with our commitment. If we have make certain allocation for main necessities and for gambling, we don't break the allocation. We only use the money that we already allocated for gambling, kindly stop playing gambling when the allocation is over. We also must remember that we never try to take a loan because it is not the right way in gambling. If we can do this constantly, I think it won't be difficult to make some limitation in gambling. Just make it to be our habit for limiting the funds for gambling purposes.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on January 25, 2025, 06:35:52 PM

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There are several parts. Gambling, gambling site and/or gambling site owner. While it is a question of gambling we undoubtedly say it is not a scam method (if it was ponsi then we could call it as scam). But if you mean gambling site then there might have several site which is scamming or scammed a lot of people but base on that we can't call gambling as a scam.

It would be pretty much the equivalent of calling all Cryptocurrencies to be scams, just because there are ill-intentioned people on the internet who take advantage of the alternative-currency community to launch their shitcoins and capitalize from pump-and-dump schemes. It has been already proven both Bitcoin and Ethereum arenot scams, in the same way BC game, Stake or Rollbit are not scams, while on the other hand there will be always some black sheep within the online casinos community like 1xbit, which blatantly and selectively scam their users when they start to make profit off their betting books or their casino games, it is always the same scamming and stalling scheme.
Because of sites like that, I have decided I would not mind much if I am allowed to gamble on reliable casinos with a long standing story of payouts and liquidity, in exchange of going through some KYC process.

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Quote from: Olatundespo on February 05, 2025, 05:34:56 AM

One of the reasons why gambling is called a scam is that most websites cheat gamblers in the way you have discussed. There are also some sites that deliberately do not let gamblers win. Maybe the developers of those sites have not prepared the games/casinos in a user-friendly way that why gamblers lose most of the time.
Another reason why gambling is called a scam is that gamblers mostly lose from reputable casinos or gaming sites as well as betting sites. You can be confident in getting your money back from reputable betting sites but some others are unreliable. I consider the trustworthy side when betting which is confident in getting money.

It is not gambling scam them but the site scam them. That is what they must understand. They must know that gambling will not let them win so casino will take all gamblers money without any chance to recover their losses. If they don't want to scam or "lose their money" in gambling, they don't have playing gambling instead save their money and use it for other things.

Till now some people have never understand the difference between gambling is a scam and a website that is being registered in the name of gambling is a scam, gambling can be only be scam through the mindset of the owner of such a gambling and if the particular gambling website scammed people that does not mean that all gambling website especially casino is a scam platform but people does not understand it in that way but they only believe that provided that one particular gambling website refuses to make the win in gambling automatically that particular gambling is a scam and they would like to generalize it to other gambling website that all gambling is a scam without any proof, not all gambling Websites is a scam.

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Quote from: yudi09 on February 05, 2025, 05:44:18 AM

Gambling as a place to channel analysis and skills and test luck. Gambling in a conscious state, aware that you are not always in a winning position because a game has two choices, losing and winning.

It's a good approach, some say that strategies in games don't work, but I personally like strategies and sometimes I get results, where I didn't play with strategies my game would be very flat, repetitive and I'm sure there would be no fun at all, I could say that when it comes to games luck is the main of all the ingredients, there is no other way, but also think that any move we make wrong will affect our economy and more so if we do not consider risk management.

Gambling is a delicate game of chance where every decision made will impact the gambler's end result and funds. This is one of the reasons why I have the believe that gambling is not for everyone.

Second, we have the total luck-based game, and we also have the analysis+skill+luck-based game. I believe those that render strategies to be useless in gambling are talking about use of it for the luck-based game.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on January 25, 2025, 06:35:52 PM

some gambling websites can be scam gambling platform such as 1xbit, during the stays of 1xbit in this community many people lay allegations about them concerning scam, so I believe that what makes people to do such is because they're are scam gambling websites, what we will say is that not all gambling websites can be a scam, but I'm convinced that some gambling platform the objective why they're been established is to extort funds from gambling players, so I think is obvious, in aspects of what you said concerning redirect a websites, yes, someone can be scammed through that...and it's good to make your findings with some of the gambling platform s before you place your bet.

There are several parts. Gambling, gambling site and/or gambling site owner. While it is a question of gambling we undoubtedly say it is not a scam method (if it was ponsi then we could call it as scam). But if you mean gambling site then there might have several site which is scamming or scammed a lot of people but base on that we can't call gambling as a scam.

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