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January 25, 2025, 12:36:52 PM
You are right because it is only done by some irresponsible casinos and they keep the trust of the users by cheating their customers but not giving the real essence that gambling is a fraud. We must realize that every time we bet there must be a time when we win or lose and no one can avoid losing in gambling because we are not always lucky. Casinos are a place for us to bet and now there are many casinos that may provide bets according to the sports we like but for those who maintain their reputation will never cheat because maintaining the reputation of the casino is not easy.
reputable casinos that have built their reputation with great difficulty will only work and make decisions according to the provisions they have implemented. we certainly see some users feel cheated by the casino because the casino takes unpleasant actions on certain users. but they should be aware that there are provisions they violate and of course, all of them are the user's fault, not the casino's.
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January 25, 2025, 12:26:09 PM
Gambling is not scam but casinos can be scam, these 2 are different so we cant say gambling as scam because the meaning of gambling is risking money for more money.
If we have accepted this meaning then we should aware that there are always 2 possible outcomes (winning and losing).
On the other place, casinos which are place for us for gambling activities can be scam such as not paying winning or even manipulating game.
You are right because it is only done by some irresponsible casinos and they keep the trust of the users by cheating their customers but not giving the real essence that gambling is a fraud. We must realize that every time we bet there must be a time when we win or lose and no one can avoid losing in gambling because we are not always lucky. Casinos are a place for us to bet and now there are many casinos that may provide bets according to the sports we like but for those who maintain their reputation will never cheat because maintaining the reputation of the casino is not easy.
legendary
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January 25, 2025, 12:15:26 PM
Gambling is not scam but casinos can be scam, these 2 are different so we cant say gambling as scam because the meaning of gambling is risking money for more money.
If we have accepted this meaning then we should aware that there are always 2 possible outcomes (winning and losing).
On the other place, casinos which are place for us for gambling activities can be scam such as not paying winning or even manipulating game.
legendary
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January 25, 2025, 11:58:50 AM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.

That frustration leads them to lose more, getting the point of gambling it's more on risk and small part of luck, expect that there are many gamblers that will experienced loses while few might win and change their lifestyle, a reputation is very important as you mentioned it you'll risk more when using unknown casino as you don't have any securities once the casino decided to scam you.
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January 25, 2025, 08:18:28 AM
Moreover, from the start there was absolutely no agreement between you and the casino that you would always win at the end of the game, so I think it makes no sense at all to assume that you have been cheated by the casino just because you lost, unless there are other problems such as winnings that are not paid by the casino.

You can not blame some people when they come of with this kind of misconception about gambling, what must have caused it is how they got into gambling. Some people knew about gambling from some misleading social media ads where they believed that they can abruptly become rich by winning constantly from gambling. While some people saw the winning streak of other and thought of it as a sure way to win too without really having the idea of what gambling is all about.
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January 24, 2025, 06:04:06 PM
I guess most people here in the forum are talking about online casinos and have more experience on that than on physical casinos
though experience in real life casinos is valid too, of course
most online gambling websites have provably fair mechanisms nowadays too where you can verify if the place you are betting has good code or would try to steal you somehow (turning the odds even more to the house than it should)
It is correct that most of the people here are online gamblers and they are aware of online gambling and know about the provably fair but most of the online gamblers including me are not aware of real casinos. I know about real casinos but I have never enjoyed a real casino I mean offline casino.
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January 23, 2025, 11:31:44 PM
Some of them usually use such mindset to justify their action of been irresponsible gambler, because as a gambler if you apply or approach gambling with the right approach you will be able to secure a healthy living while gambling, because some of us are fond of chasing or running after their losses just to get them back and they usually endup with more losses that's the funny thing. Losing little is better that losing all, so in such situation after experiencing losses the best thing to do is to stop so that you won't endup saying gambling is a scam after massive losses.
So that is normal if we often see some gamblers saying that the casino is a scam because their minds can not thinks that they are wrong about that. They can not responsible while they are playing gambling and end up by losing their money and say about the bad things. They must aware that gambling is not a scam but they must reflect what they did in gambling and trying to prevent the loss. Yes, losing little is better than losing all so they must realize that they can not use gambling to make money instead just use it for having fun.

Yeah, you some people do not have a limitation in gambling and it has be their problem, so I believe that if we realize that we are suppose to know our limitation we will not be thinking that gambling is a scam
People who think that gambling is a scam is people who did not have self control in gambling, but when you have a statistics as other senior colleagues says about knowing your statistics in tye gambling, because if you are not being pushed by people to participate in the gambling you will know your limitation.
Yes, that could be right if they do not have limitation in gambling can say gambling is a scam easily because they lose their money in gambling. They don't think that the casino scam them but gambling did that to them so that could be they are lack of information and can not differenced between casino and gambling. That is why they will say that gambling scam them without think that the casino do that to them. If they think that they will get a scam from gambling, they must limit their money so they will not lose too much.
legendary
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January 23, 2025, 01:57:31 PM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.
Yeah, you some people do not have a limitation in gambling and it has be their problem, so I believe that if we realize that we are suppose to know our limitation we will not be thinking that gambling is a scam
People who think that gambling is a scam is people who did not have self control in gambling, but when you have a statistics as other senior colleagues says about knowing your statistics in tye gambling, because if you are not being pushed by people to participate in the gambling you will know your limitation.

Limits are something that leads to prevention, the benefit of which is to prevent a gambler from falling deeper while for the problem of assuming fraud just because they lose, I think the problem lies in their incorrect self-acceptance, meaning they cannot be held responsible for the decisions they have taken at the beginning, but yes I also support your idea about limits because after all it is something important that a gambler must have but for the problem of perspective on gambling which is said to be fraud just because they lose, I think what must be corrected is their understanding of what and how gambling really is, they must understand the concept of winning and losing in gambling until they realize that losing is a natural part of the game.
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January 23, 2025, 12:40:27 PM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.
Yeah, you some people do not have a limitation in gambling and it has be their problem, so I believe that if we realize that we are suppose to know our limitation we will not be thinking that gambling is a scam
People who think that gambling is a scam is people who did not have self control in gambling, but when you have a statistics as other senior colleagues says about knowing your statistics in tye gambling, because if you are not being pushed by people to participate in the gambling you will know your limitation.
Only greedy people will call gambling a scam because they have lost many of their profits for lack of satisfaction. A greedy man will not be contented with the little profits his bet gave him, and he will continue gambling to win more, before he knows it, he has lost it all.

People that also started gambling because they think gambling is a way to get rich quick will be disappointed in the long run, because what they expected was the opposite and they will feel cheated. Gambling itself is not a scam but you can be scamed through scam casinos.
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January 23, 2025, 12:14:44 PM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.
Yeah, you some people do not have a limitation in gambling and it has be their problem, so I believe that if we realize that we are suppose to know our limitation we will not be thinking that gambling is a scam
People who think that gambling is a scam is people who did not have self control in gambling, but when you have a statistics as other senior colleagues says about knowing your statistics in tye gambling, because if you are not being pushed by people to participate in the gambling you will know your limitation.
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January 23, 2025, 12:02:43 PM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
It's hard to resist when we're winning and much more when we're losing because there is something to chase. Everyone speaks for their own experiences on how it goes.

And when we fail to do what we're tasked to do for ourselves, we find a reason to blame for it. That's why some are ending up telling that gambling is a scam and even it's not.

A sucking reality that many keeps on putting the blame to gambling itself when they've done out of their free will.
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January 23, 2025, 11:55:32 AM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.

Some of them usually use such mindset to justify their action of been irresponsible gambler, because as a gambler if you apply or approach gambling with the right approach you will be able to secure a healthy living while gambling, because some of us are fond of chasing or running after their losses just to get them back and they usually endup with more losses that's the funny thing. Losing little is better that losing all, so in such situation after experiencing losses the best thing to do is to stop so that you won't endup saying gambling is a scam after massive losses.
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January 23, 2025, 11:18:06 AM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
Gambling is not a scam and every person that calls themselves gamblers should know about this and should not tag it a scam because they are not making as much as they intend to make. Losses is allowed in gambling and there is no way we are not going to make losses as gamblers. It is better we gamble with what we know we can afford to lose as gamblers that to feel like a game is a sure one and it's going to give us huge profits when it's obvious that there is nothing certain in gambling until we see the result.

I normally gamble without having the responsibility that it's a must the bet must come out a successful one. Let's take a way the mentality of entitlement in gambling even though we are giving the game and it could not come out as the way we play the bet.

that's true
the thing is a lot of people don't take responsibility themselves for their actions
they end up blaming the house or even other people for their losses, it's curious that this behavior don't usually happen for their wins
humans are curious creatures after all, we act in ways that sometimes we don't even understand

gambling is not a scam, that is for sure, but what about when we scam ourselves, sabotaging?
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January 23, 2025, 09:00:49 AM
Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
They lose their control emotion and still spend more and more money without limitation. When they lose all of their money, they can easily say the casino is a scam because makes them lose their money. The temptation from gambling is very strong so gamblers must  know how to take care of themselves better and not tempting to keep playing gambling. They must think that gambling is not a scam but the casino can scam them especially if they choose the unknown casino that doesn't have reputation.
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January 23, 2025, 08:59:43 AM

Most beginners enter the wrong casino platform with offers of high profits that attract attention. I think if he is a gambler he must know how to play correctly in gambling and is ready to lose the money he puts in the casino. I do not recommend anyone to enter the casino.
The reason why there is no such thing as fraud in gambling is because the system implemented by the bookie clearly wants to attract as much money as possible for anyone who enters the casino platform.

Why not? In gambling, scams are as developed as in any other area where there is big money. There may well be casinos that do not want to pay out big winnings to players, in which case it will be fraud. Such casinos exist and they refuse to pay out winnings under absolutely different pretexts, which can be specified in the user agreement, and arguing with them will be almost useless, because they have lawyers who constantly deal with such cases.
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January 23, 2025, 07:28:54 AM
Not actually a scam but more on how you can handle the risk that you'll going to take as you mentioned casino have the advantage and it was design to make money for the owners, though in some situation where lucky gamblers manage to win decent amount, but with the loads of those gamblers who lose their money that can be covered and casino still got that edge against those many gamblers who are using their services.
People who get into gambling and lose all their money without winning anything would always call gambling a scam because they haven't seen the positive side of it. Imagine depositing $200 in a casino with the hope that you might make some money with it, but you end up losing money in every game you play and eventually lose all your money. What would your reaction be after that? You would be angry, frustrated, and sad, and out of those mixed emotions, you would call casinos and gambling a scam out of anger and frustration.

Those who are new to gambling should understand how gambling works in the first place before they start spending money on it. The fact that you can lose everything or possibly win something big is the reason why people say that you should only use the money that you can easily afford to lose; otherwise, you are going to regret your decision if you end up on the losing side.

yes, but they usually feed their gambling activity with hopes, dreams and excitement and not with math and discipline
for a disciplined gambler they are probably not risking more than 3% of their total bankroll available in a single bet
let alone 100%

I think people get to carried by the thrill of making money fast that they end up losing it

Usually that's the situation when a person got excited instead of keeping thier bankroll being control they failed to follow the limitation that they set up and they've been dominated emotions and lose everything after, its something that really hard to resist when you don't practice it, and when you failed to control certain adrenaline that you felt when you are in the session where you've got really attached and unable to stop.
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January 23, 2025, 05:57:26 AM

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.

Before sending your money to any platform (including casinos), you need to study their operation to protect yourself from scams. Because scams exist in casinos too, there are a lot of scammers, and in recent years, more and more of them have been turning their attention to users who deal with crypto, because in their opinion, these are wealthy people who have something to steal.
Most beginners enter the wrong casino platform with offers of high profits that attract attention. I think if he is a gambler he must know how to play correctly in gambling and is ready to lose the money he puts in the casino. I do not recommend anyone to enter the casino.
The reason why there is no such thing as fraud in gambling is because the system implemented by the bookie clearly wants to attract as much money as possible for anyone who enters the casino platform.
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January 22, 2025, 04:16:27 PM
If we talk about the results in gambling then gambling can never be called fraud, I understand that accepting defeat is not easy but isn't it clear from the start that gambling is an activity of winning and losing? I'm sure everyone already knows that, everything that is called fraud is when you have absolutely no idea about the possibilities involved but in gambling it is clear from the start that if for example you don't win it means you lose, only those two.

Moreover, from the start there was absolutely no agreement between you and the casino that you would always win at the end of the game, so I think it makes no sense at all to assume that you have been cheated by the casino just because you lost, unless there are other problems such as winnings that are not paid by the casino.
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January 22, 2025, 02:00:01 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.

Anonymous source? Is it that he can't trace the transaction through the alert or he doesn't have much information about it. No matter what, don't use your credit card on unrecognize websites, use other options to deposit. Now that we are in the era of crypto, there are vast options gamblers can use to fund there casino flawlessly and less complicated because you don't have any fear of this kind of things, you just deposit and that's all since international transaction are complicated and slow.

To OP, a gambler is only a scam when casino do some obvious manipulation, cheat you, clear your beating logs and refund your balance perhaps they saw you winning, revert your transaction or makes you intentionally lose money because of their negligence, you have every right to say such casino is a scam but believe me, gambling is not a scam and will never be a scam unless the above happen.
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January 22, 2025, 01:45:33 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
Gambling is not a scam and every person that calls themselves gamblers should know about this and should not tag it a scam because they are not making as much as they intend to make. Losses is allowed in gambling and there is no way we are not going to make losses as gamblers. It is better we gamble with what we know we can afford to lose as gamblers that to feel like a game is a sure one and it's going to give us huge profits when it's obvious that there is nothing certain in gambling until we see the result.

I normally gamble without having the responsibility that it's a must the bet must come out a successful one. Let's take a way the mentality of entitlement in gambling even though we are giving the game and it could not come out as the way we play the bet.
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